metta Posted February 15, 2013 What started out as a lunchtime food fight in a Minneapolis high school ended in a massive brawl involving hundreds of students and police officers wielding canisters of Mace. Minneapolis South High School was placed on lockdown shortly before 1pm Thursday after violence broke out during third-period lunch inside the cafeteria between Muslim and black students. The fight involved 200-300 students and lasted about 15 minutes, leaving four people injured. Teaching continued as usual during the lockdown, but students had to remain in their classrooms. Students were let out at 3pm as usual, and parents were not asked to pick up their children. After-school activities proceeded as scheduled, CBS Minnesota reported. According to a message posted Thursday afternoon on the school's website, the incident began unfolding at around 12.45pm and quickly escalated into a large-scale physical confrontation. More than 20 staff members and two school resource officers responded immediately and attempted to break up the fight, but were unable to handle the situation and called the Minneapolis Police Department for help. Dozens of police officers who arrived on the scene tried to disperse the crowd of brawling teenagers, but to no avail. They then formed a human chain often used during crowd control situation and called on the brawlers to stand down, but when that failed, police sprayed Mace into the air above the crowd Four people, including three students and one staff member who was hit in the head with a bottle, were sent to a hospital. Police said no weapons were used in the altercation, and the teens' unspecified injuries were not related to the fight. A dozen people also complained of suffering from side effects related to the chemical agent sprayed by police. They were treated on the scene for Mace inhalation. Student Abdi Sheik told CBS that the fight escalated into a 'big riot' over racial hostilities that have long been bubbling under the surface. According to witnesses, an initial fight happened during the first lunch period when one student threw a milk carton at another. By the time the third period came around, the situation spiraled out of control, with boys hitting girls and some students lying on the floor and covering their faces in surrender. Some members of the South High School community said that the violent incident was the culmination of ongoing tensions between the eight per cent of Muslim students of Somali decent and the 20 per cent who are African Americans 'I don't feel safe here,' senior Guled Omar told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. 'This is something that has been going on [for at least two years].' In a statement posted on the school's website, district spokesperson Stan Alleyne wrote: 'South is a very diverse high school. 'It is a microcosm of the city. Students function together at a high level every day. That is the strength of this school. Our students live diversity every day.' So far, no charges have been filed but police said students involved in the melee could potentially face assault, riot, and other counts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nin-Yaaban Posted February 15, 2013 Dadna waxeey cunaan ayeey la'yihiin, kuwaana counting ayeey isku tuur tuur ayaan. Dad kibrey iga dheh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted February 15, 2013 I wonder who won the fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 15, 2013 Waa dad mayace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted February 15, 2013 stupidh AA:s.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chimera Posted March 30, 2013 True story: 1) Somali boys dream of being economists, architects, graphic-designers, etc, they blend in with the student populace. They listen to One Direction, don't mind Rihanna and are pretty much mama's boys. 2) Somalis girls dream of similar destinations, but stick out amongst their female peers due to their unique Somali/Islamic fashion. 3) Alienation ensues, cliques form, girl vs girl fights break out, Somali girls hold their own 4) Individual Somali boys aid their blood-related sisters against the boyfriends of the other female students. 5) The boyfriends eventually one way or another beat up the individual Somali boys through weight of numbers. 6) Somali boys harden in attitude and mentality and gravitate towards one another by forming a group. 7) Somali boys exact revenge and beat up the boyfriends. 8) They either become the alpha-group or like in this video reach a stale-mate. 9) In either case everyone stays out of each-other's business from then on. 10) Somali girls continue with studying and reach their aspirations, some Somali boys however drunk on the power of brotherhood and group-thinking, take this form of comradery from the school-yard to the street by dropping out. 11) They become hardcore gangs and engage other long established hardcore gangs. 12) News headlines galore...and in the end we all blame the Somali fathers...........WTH :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted March 30, 2013 Chimera;932270 wrote: True story: 1) Somali boys dream of being economists, architects, graphic-designers, etc, they blend in with the student populace. They listen to One Direction, don't mind Rihanna and are pretty much mama's boys. 2) Somalis girls dream of similar destinations, but stick out amongst their female peers due to their unique Somali/Islamic fashion. 3) Alienation ensues, cliques form, girl vs girl fights break out, Somali girls hold their own 4) Individual Somali boys aid their blood-related sisters against the boyfriends of the other female students. 5) The boyfriends eventually one way or another beat up the individual Somali boys through weight of numbers. 6) Somali boys harden in attitude and mentality and gravitate towards one another by forming a group. 7) Somali boys exact revenge and beat up the boyfriends. 8) They either become the alpha-group or like in this video reach a stale-mate. 9) In either case everyone stays out of each-other's business from then on. 10) Somali girls continue with studying and reach their aspirations, some Somali boys however drunk on the power of brotherhood and group-thinking, take this form of comradery from the school-yard to the street by dropping out. 11) They become hardcore gangs and engage other long established hardcore gangs. 12) News headlines galore...and in the end we all blame the Somali fathers...........WTH :confused: Interesting analysis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coofle Posted March 31, 2013 Chimera;932270 wrote: True story: 1) Somali boys dream of being economists, architects, graphic-designers, etc, they blend in with the student populace. They listen to One Direction, don't mind Rihanna and are pretty much mama's boys. 2) Somalis girls dream of similar destinations, but stick out amongst their female peers due to their unique Somali/Islamic fashion. 3) Alienation ensues, cliques form, girl vs girl fights break out, Somali girls hold their own 4) Individual Somali boys aid their blood-related sisters against the boyfriends of the other female students. 5) The boyfriends eventually one way or another beat up the individual Somali boys through weight of numbers. 6) Somali boys harden in attitude and mentality and gravitate towards one another by forming a group. 7) Somali boys exact revenge and beat up the boyfriends. 8) They either become the alpha-group or like in this video reach a stale-mate. 9) In either case everyone stays out of each-other's business from then on. 10) Somali girls continue with studying and reach their aspirations, some Somali boys however drunk on the power of brotherhood and group-thinking, take this form of comradery from the school-yard to the street by dropping out. 11) They become hardcore gangs and engage other long established hardcore gangs. 12) News headlines galore...and in the end we all blame the Somali fathers...........WTH :confused: Personally I would like to cultivate the love and pride of Soomaalinimada inside children...they should believe that they are Somalis, a unique set of a nation..neither Arabs nor African Americans, even different from the Bantu counterparts in Africa...Waa dad soomaaliyeed..waa dad gooni ah...Love all Somalis no matter of clan affiliation simply because he is a fellow Waryaa... its pretty much what nazism is about,,,But I would prefer a Somali with pride than a pity Somali.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted March 31, 2013 Chimera;932270 wrote: True story: 1) Somali boys dream of being economists, architects, graphic-designers, etc, they blend in with the student populace. They listen to One Direction, don't mind Rihanna and are pretty much mama's boys. That's wishful thinking. A large segment with the young Somali male population are content with a life of loitering and bullet consumption. The 40% drop out rate for Somalis in Toronto should be evidence enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted March 31, 2013 Blackflash;932340 wrote: That's wishful thinking. A large segment with the young Somali male population are content with a life of loitering and bullet consumption. The 40% drop out rate for Somalis in Toronto should be evidence enough. All children start off with the same dreams and desires... they begin to realize the world they live in and the obstacles they face by the time they hit middle school, and that's when you start seeing some children lag behind their peers and eventually fall so behind that they drop out in high school. The situation for Somalis in Toronto (not unlike Somalis in most Western countries) is a product of poverty, living in low-income and crime-ridden neighbourhoods, and trying to make it in societies that are hostile to immigrants and racial minorities. Although we have internal issues too, the family structure/parenting arguments are a convenient way to avoid discussion of larger structural inequalities that Somalis and other immigrants communities and minorities face in Canada and the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted March 31, 2013 Safferz;932343 wrote: All children start off with the same dreams and desires... they begin to realize the world they live in and the obstacles they face by the time they hit middle school, and that's when you start seeing some children lag behind their peers and eventually fall so behind that they drop out in high school. The situation for Somalis in Toronto (not unlike Somalis in most Western countries) is a product of poverty, living in low-income and crime-ridden neighbourhoods, and trying to make it in societies that are hostile to immigrants and racial minorities. Although we have internal issues too, the family structure/parenting arguments are a convenient way to avoid discussion of larger structural inequalities that Somalis and other immigrants communities and minorities face in Canada and the US. Oh, cry me a river. I grew up in the same neighbourhoods as other Somalis as well as other poor immigrants from China, Korea, Bangladesh etc. Yet you'll only hear Somalis and Jamaicans whine about "societal barriers" as if they're only immigrants who've had to face the same obstacles in Canada. Communities are formed in order to collectively pool its member's resources and overcome whatever adversity they face. If the Somali community has to rely on others for that support, doesn't that make it obsolete? I personally believe that someone who falls by the wayside in Canada and nations with similarly adequate social safety nets, has to either; alter their lifestyle, or give up as there's little chance of them succeeding anywhere in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted March 31, 2013 ^^ anecdotal evidence does not qualify as data, and fortunately for Somali Canadians, what you "personally believe" has no effect whatsoever on policy. There are numerous reports and studies that show the SYSTEMIC issues in Canada negatively affecting communities like ours, regardless of what you believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaraadMon Posted March 31, 2013 Safferz;932347 wrote: ^^ anecdotal evidence does not qualify as data, and fortunately for Somali Canadians, what you "personally believe" has no effect whatsoever on policy. There are numerous reports and studies that show the SYSTEMIC issues in Canada negatively affecting communities like ours, regardless of what you believe. Why "ours" and not the Rwandan or Eritrean communities? I can't think of anything that makes Somalis stand out from any other immigrant in terms of obstacles. TDSB Graduation Patterns 2009 cohort TDSB Graduation Patterns 2002 cohort Who's responsible for the atrocious numbers in the reports above? How can a group fail in several different nations (including their own) and still manage to blame everyone but themselves? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 31, 2013 +1. well said blackie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 31, 2013 Astonishing! tell us bal what those systematic issues are. this strikes me as the typical excuse mantra of the failed peoples in the west. ie jamaicans, AA, arabs etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites