Sharif was a lousy President ~ time for a New Man to take charge.

[Burn Notice]

Thanks for sharing Odey

 

Excellent insight

[malistar2012]

Oday I beg different , abdi walli gas gets credit for creating TSC other than that zero , the road map etc was in the works before he came to office , ending the transition 2012 is not new . Constitution was in the works since 2004.

 

Shiek sharrif United Somali , moved Somalis beyond clan lines . liberated capital and surrounding with minimum damage in three years.

About the president being clannish

President advisors are man like Abdikarim jama and etc , don’t insult Amir Sharif

 

Don’t compare Amir shariif to abdiwalli . comparing taxi driver and rebel is not the same

[Samafal]

People who support Sheikh Sharif but are against the Sh Hassan are hypocrities. The two are inseparable.

[Odey]

malistar2012;863580 wrote:

Oday I beg different , abdi walli gas gets credit for creating TSC other than that zero , the road map etc was in the works before he came to office , ending the transition 2012 is not new . Constitution was in the works since 2004.

 

Shiek sharrif United Somali , moved Somalis beyond clan lines . liberated capital and surrounding with minimum damage in three years.

About the president being clannish

President advisors are man like Abdikarim jama and etc , don’t insult Amir Sharif

 

Don’t compare Amir shariif to abdiwalli . comparing taxi driver and rebel is not the same

I havent laughed this much the past 2 years!!!. my sides are hurting! ha ha ha ha ha . What did you say?. Sharif started the Roadmap? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . Please brother dont kill me with the joke. I give you an oscar Walaahi!,

 

Let me recover..........Let me give you a lesson in History shall I?, since you obviously seem to be confused with the leaflets The old Man sent you.For starters, Last Year in June Alshabaab were actually firing at the Villa Somalia from Sayyidka , a stones throw away and could use Sniper fire to kill people within the Villa Complex. There was no Roadmap and Farmaajo never had such a thing. In fact the reason we have always been in Transition is because we never had a way out. In accordance with the agreement reached in Kampala, which they signed the PM (Gaas), was to lead the Nation out of Transition(still no plan at this point). The plan was developed by him and was released in October to the world. I would like to hear from my learned friend just how Sharif managed to write up such a complex plan of action which he hadnt thought of the previous 3 years.

 

Gas went on to lead the Nation with his Council of Ministers who were all Technocrats including a one Minister Hosh the Lawyer from Canada tasked to finalise, reconcile and approve the Constitution that was on the books the past 7 years and was never finished and no one had even bothered. Again I want to hear from the brother just what Sharif did the previous 3 years with the constitution, that 50 Million was spent on during those 3 years he was in power and nothing had been done?. Where, I say did that money go?.

 

It took the current PM and his Ministers Hosh & others to get the job done. Shabaab was routed out of the Capital by the Defence Minister and His Top Soldier a General Diini. This was team work at its best. That is what Gaas brought to the table. As for being Clannish, Shariif is Clannish by appointing his family let alone his sub/sub/sub/sub clan to every single organisatiion dealing with AID, such as Turkish Cordination Unit, Turkish Ambassadors and even their deputies, unheard of in Somali politics since you have to at least try and maintain an illusion of inclusion for crying out loud!. His office staff from Senior Advisors, security, doormen, waiters, cooks, cleaners and even the Agaasimaha Tuubooyinka iyo boosaneero are his sub/sub/sub/sub clan. Yes Mr Jama is one his staff ......... 1 out of 200?

 

Amir Shariif? PuhLease, Amir Thief more like!

[malistar2012]

When sharif Ahmed took office things turned around positive , President came into office at time when the Tfg was collapsing and the entire south was controlled by alshabab.

The progress we see today was started by sheikh sharif Ahmed ,

 

Shiekh Sharif Ahmed progress facts

 

1. Selected council of Minister and Pm who were technocrats

2. Security : Trained thousands of troops and police within three years. Secured and cleaned shaabab out of the capital and surrounding towns.

3. Broad the International world back to Somalia .

 

4. Handled the Somali drought successfully

5. Ending the Transition smoothly

6. For the first time peaceful parliamentary election held in the capital.

 

 

within three years

[Odey]

malistar2012;863694 wrote:

When sharif Ahmed took office things turned around positive , President came into office at time when the Tfg was collapsing and the entire south was controlled by alshabab.

The progress we see today was started by sheikh sharif Ahmed ,

 

Shiekh Sharif Ahmed progress facts

 

1. Selected council of Minister and Pm who were technocrats

2. Security : Trained thousands of troops and police within three years. Secured and cleaned shaabab out of the capital and surrounding towns.

3. Broad the International world back to Somalia .

 

4. Handled the Somali drought successfully

5. Ending the Transition smoothly

6. For the first time peaceful parliamentary election held in the capital.

 

 

within three years

 

CORRECTION;

1. He Appointed PM, but never appointed the Council of Ministers. The PM appointed the council of technocrat ministers ( El Presidente wouldnt know how to find them)

2.He never trained or worked out the agreements that led to the training of these soldiers or their pay with the International Donors. The PM and Council of Ministers Did

3.He doesnt know International World period and couldnt bring the next door neighbour to somalia!. The PM was the Architect of these and even the little children know this unless of course you are both blind and deaf, in which case you are excused

3.Handled nothing in the drought aside from naming his family and other cronies to positions that allowed them to steal the food from the mouths of poor children in the Camps. The world responded to the Cries of the PM and the huge lobbying effort he put in. I was on the other side of that fence(international side) and was present at the time

4.Ending Transition including elections are the Spectacular Signature policy AKA Roadmap Process wholly designed and executed with a great deal of style by the PM and his Great group of Ministers.

 

Finally, the TFg controlled large swathes of the South including Mogadishu when Shariff came into Power. There were no less than 8,000 soldiers on the payroll and were actually well trained. He kicked them all out, replaced them with clan malitia, and as he was in bed with shabab, brought them into Mogadishu. He, my brother is the problem and never was the solution to any of the Problems our poor nation faces.

 

Try again...............

[Faarax-Brawn]

Give the sheikh some credit folks. Of course,he had many obstacles and a dysfunctional cabinet. But one thing is not a coincidence: Sharif was the leader The only two times Mogadishu has seen relative peace. & that will be his legacy.

[Odey]

Faarax-Brawn;863707 wrote:

Give the sheikh some credit folks. Of course,he had many obstacles and a dysfunctional cabinet. But one thing is not a coincidence: Sharif was the leader The only two times Mogadishu has seen relative peace. & that will be his legacy.

I will give him credit for one thing. He managed to transform himself from a humble looking Madrassa teacher to a blinged up, Armani Wearing, Rolex dotting Pimp Daddy in 3 years. I also like the fact that he kept the hat!. For that, I give him Big Credit. ;)

[malistar2012]

" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Sheikh Sharif Ahmed visit Turkey 2009 , that let to the Turkey investing in Somalia

[Somalia]

LOL@His visit made Turkey invest, what did he tell them, did he whisper them in the ears?

 

Sheikh Shariif transformed himself from jihadist to a secularist given the constitution. Under his reign we have seen peace but he by no means made it happen. If it wasn't for AMISOM and the foreign forces, we'd be nowhere.

[malistar2012]

A surprise trip from Ugandan President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni to Somalia has made him the first head of state to visit the war-torn country in almost 20 years, according to the African Union Mission for Somalia.

 

Museveni met with dozens of Ugandan peacekeepers, including ordinary soldiers and top commanders, immediately after arriving at the main southern Halane base in Mogadishu on Sunday afternoon, a statement from the mission said.

 

"We should be happy that our country is taking the lead in helping solve the Somalia problem," Museveni told his troops, who were thrilled at the sight of their leader and welcomed him with songs and dance, said the statement.

 

 

Progress you see today started years before your abdiwalli

[oba hiloowlow]

Faarax-Brawn;863707 wrote:

Give the sheikh some credit folks. Of course,he had many obstacles and a dysfunctional cabinet. But one thing is not a coincidence: Sharif was the leader The only two times Mogadishu has seen relative peace. & that will be his legacy.

Faarax let them hate, reason bey uu neceb yihiine keep on hating haters!!!

[Somalia]

Hate on what? Did he free Somalia from Al-Shabaab or was it AMISOM? The president is the commander in chief, we are just being realistic here, that's all. He didn't run the government as that is not his job neither, so what did he do?

 

God knows.

[oba hiloowlow]

Somalia;863725 wrote:

Hate on what? Did he free Somalia from Al-Shabaab or was it AMISOM? The president is the commander in chief, we are just being realistic here, that's all. He didn't run the government as that is not his job neither, so what did he do?

 

God knows.

As Faarax Brawn said he was the leader the only 2 times Mogadishu seen stability and peace.

[Odey]

malistar2012;863716 wrote:

A surprise trip from Ugandan President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni to Somalia has made him the first head of state to visit the war-torn country in almost 20 years, according to the African Union Mission for Somalia.

 

Museveni met with dozens of Ugandan peacekeepers, including ordinary soldiers and top commanders, immediately after arriving at the main southern Halane base in Mogadishu on Sunday afternoon, a statement from the mission said.

 

"We should be happy that our country is taking the lead in helping solve the Somalia problem," Museveni told his troops, who were thrilled at the sight of their leader and welcomed him with songs and dance, said the statement.

 

 

Progress you see today started years before your abdiwalli

Yes Amisom Was in Somalia Long before Abdiweli Gaas and Long before Shariff Too. Amisom was brought to Somalia by Abdulahi Yusuf and Museveni First arrived in Somalia During The Reign Of Abdulahi Yusuf, again nothing to do with shariff, on the contrary he used to fight Amisom when they arrived calling them Infidel Invaders and those that brought them (Abdulahi Yusuf and his group) a bunch of Infidels.

 

The man you are trying to present to us as the Messiah is anything but!. He is corrupt, stole Millions, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of our citizens, assasinated hundreds, is in bed with the enemy Shabaab, incompetent and highly ignorant. Somalia doesnt need him back. For once we urge the world to afford him a comfortable retirement package so we can get rid of this sorry saga. No doubt he will do well somewhere with lots of shopping malls, given his newly developed taste for designer labels. Intelligence suggests Dubai has such facilities, anyone here on good terms with the Emirates Sheikhs?........... do us a favour, and get him a nice Villa there will you!