Funneral Costs

[Khayr]

Salamz,

 

Has any nomad wondered about how funnerals are done-HOW MUCH A FUNERAL COSTS?

 

While I was making a phone call today and found out from one masjid, that you have to pay a few grand (e.g. $2000) BEFORE the marxoom is buried.

 

No Money, No Burial! :eek:

 

So it got me thinking,

 

how do people pay for funeral services in the muslim community?

 

I am aware that for non-muslims, they can pay through 'FINANCING' via the Funeral Home

but how are muslims prepared for such an occassion?

 

For somalis, is a fundraising done for the marxoom's family to pay for the burial?

 

Nomads, your assistance would be greatly appreciated!

 

Fi Amanillah

[Shirwac]

Originally posted by Khayr:

No Money, No Burial! :eek:

 

 

how do people pay for funeral services in the muslim community?

 

I am aware that for non-muslims, they can pay through 'FINANCING' via the Funeral Home

but how are muslims prepared for such an occassion?

 

For somalis, is a fundraising done for the marxoom's family to pay for the burial?

 

Nomads, your assistance would be greatly appreciated!

 

Fi Amanillah

Are you thinking about starting a funeral home for muslims?

 

On average the total funeral cost for a muslim person is about 3500(USD) in the US. That is not a lot of money in comparing with the funeral cost of a non-Muslim. So most muslim families can came up with the money. For those that can't came up with the money the local masjid usually pays for it. That is why it is important to give money to the masjid on regular basis for the services they provide to the community. The masjid donates the money to the money regardless of their nationality as long as the need is there.

 

Somalis are luckier than most people, 'cause of "qaaraan". The "qaaraan" is done through "toll" if there are not enough Somalis in the city. Otherwise all Somalis contribute "qaaraan" to family to cover funeral expanses, outstanding loans, ...etc.

[STOIC]

Khayr next time when you visit the local Somalian grocery store or Xawalla check around and see if you can spot a box with a black/blue paint on it that says "Guudiga Aaska".Reach to your pocket and drop the dollar/rupee/shilling in there :cool: .

[Abdulladiif Al-Fiqih]

If you think the cost of living in N.America is expensive, you have no idea.....find out how much it cost to die in New York :mad:

[Janna]

Originally posted by Mohamoud-Baari:

If you think the cost of living in N.America is expensive, you have no idea.....find out how much it cost to die in New York :mad:

Brother,

Why would you want to die in a non-muslim country?

 

Many Allah help all of us, amin.

[StarGazer]

^ there's no such thing as 'non-muslim country'. Wherever you die, it's dhulka ilaahi. Also, it's written where u die..you can't escape it!

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Originally posted by Tamina:

^ there's no such thing as 'non-muslim country'. Wherever you die, it's dhulka ilaahi. Also, it's written where u die..you can't escape it!

Assalamu Alaikum sis,

 

Yes! every land is owned/created by Allah (SWT) but "non-Muslim" countries are countries ran by kuffirs and I think that's what the brother/sister was pointing to

 

Yes, it's written on our records where and how we will die but do we know it is the question? The answer, is obviously NO! So what's wrong with praying to Allah (SWT) that you don't and try to move to a Muslim country (a country ran and controlled by a Muslim leader...etc) while you are still alive? Dying in a non-Muslim country is something a Muslim should NOT hope for!

 

God only knows what they do to your body and this is the disgusting part! There was this Somalian brother that passed away sometime last year, when the men were buring him, the brother's (may Allah (SWT) grant him Jannah) head (not just his head but other parts of his body) was cut up...Subhan'Allah

[- Femme -]

Unless a person died within a hospital, autopsy is performed on the deceased body regardless of the wishes of family/relatives to rule out foul play. They want to know the cause of death and whether it was natural, accidental, or homicide.

[Castro]

^ Indeed. As well, if the deceased had signed up as an organ donor, his or her body may be operated on to retrieve the donated organs.

 

A small insurance policy may be purchased to cover the cost of a funeral and burial. It makes sense as those grieving shouldn't have to worry about costs when they've just lost a loved one. In fact, it is very convenient as funeral homes work with insurance companies much like auto repair shops to make it a seamless event.

 

It is wise to plan this as death is not optional but guaranteed.

[Khayr]

Originally posted by Femme.:

Unless a person died within a hospital, autopsy is performed on the deceased body regardless of the wishes of family/relatives to rule out foul play. They want to know the cause of death and whether it was natural, accidental, or homicide.

What if this is conflict with Religious Beliefs?

 

 

small insurance policy may be purchased to cover the cost of a funeral and burial. It makes sense as those grieving shouldn't have to worry about costs when they've just lost a loved one. In fact, it is very convenient as funeral homes work with insurance companies much like auto repair shops to make it a seamless event.

Castro,

 

An Insurance Policy is the MODERN answer to alot of issues these days....societal, family responsibilities are thrown out the door. Religious institutions don't provide the support that these 'Insurance Companies' promise to 'OFFER'.

 

I believe that the masajids need to offer this service as a 'qarda hasna' aka goodly loan to the muslim community and reasonable repayment terms can be negotiated. Bury the dead first, then ask for money....and expect to provide more of a Service that will not generate 'break even' stats.

 

The Ajar and the fullfillment of the duty can't be

 

'QUANTIFIED' I.E. $$$ !!!

 

Fi Amanillah

[Proud_Muslimah2]

Originally posted by Femme.:

Unless a person died within a hospital, autopsy is performed on the deceased body regardless of the wishes of family/relatives to rule out foul play. They want to know the cause of death and whether it was natural, accidental, or homicide.

See this is the thing, in Islam we are taught that if a person dies we are to wash him/her, pray on them and then bury them as soon as possible. The brother who passed, whom I mentioned earlier, was kept in this place for almost 24 hours (even though they could NOT find any reason for his sudden death!) so this CLEARLY goes against our Islamic teachings!

[- Femme -]

Proud Muslimah & Khayr,

 

If your not in an Islamic country then your religious preferences have to take a back seat. Doesn't matter if your Muslim, Christian, Hindu or Jew. There are some cases in which citing religion as a reason to go against a medical procedure is over-ruled (ex. Jehovah's Witness parents refusing blood transfusions or organ donations for their children---they are not allowed and can be thrown in jail if they interfere).

 

P.S. Does it really go against Islamic teachings? There have been many cases in which autopsies revealed that a person was murdered by poisionous injections when it all appearances it looked that they died a natural death. Wouldn't you want to rule out murder? Or as long as a person is dead...thats it? I believe autopsies for suspicious deaths to be necessary. There are many things you can learn from it.

[S.O.S]

Assalaamu calaykum

Dear all brothers and sisters,

 

Our dear sister Femme writes:

 

If your not in an Islamic country then your religious preferences have to take a back seat.

 

Therefore ..... ?

[Khayr]

Salamz,

 

Originally posted by Femme.:

Proud Muslimah & Khayr,

 

If your not in an

Islamic country

then your religious preferences have to take a back seat. Doesn't matter if your Muslim, Christian, Hindu or Jew. There are some cases in which citing religion as a reason to go against a medical procedure is over-ruled (ex. Jehovah's Witness parents refusing blood transfusions or organ donations for their children---they are not allowed and can be thrown in jail if they interfere).

 

P.S. Does it

really

go against Islamic teachings? There have been many cases in which autopsies revealed that a person was murdered by poisionous injections when it all appearances it looked that they died a natural death. Wouldn't you want to rule out murder? Or as long as a person is dead...thats it? I believe autopsies for suspicious deaths to be necessary. There are many things you can learn from it.

If your not in an

Islamic country

then your religious preferences have to take a back seat.

In Western liberal democratic countries, Pluralism

is encouraged and is a liberal principle that protects the general population including religious institutions and people's religious beliefs and practices.

 

There are cases where the state law supercedes religious practices:

 

• when religious beliefs and practices infringe on someone else's rights i.e.

• when religious beliefs and practices threaten public safety i.e. a bird flu epedmic and no cure yet and the deceased person is thought to have dies of 'bird flu'.

• In the case of a minor, who doesn't not have the capacity to judge and interpret legal terminology, then the state can over rule the families religious request i.e. blood transfusion fo the child

From the Islamic view point:

 

• Necessity overrides prohibition that is if there are certain items which are islamically prohibited, under dire necessity they can become permissible.

• Accept the lesser of the two harms if both can not be avoided.

• Public interest overrides the individual interest.

• Harm has to be removed at every cost if possible.

 

Source

 

to be cont'd....

 

Fi Amanillah

[Khayr]

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