Zanzibar gives 25 years imprisonment for Homosexuals

[Truth Seeker]

Zanzibar is an Island in the Indian Ocean and has a majority Muslim population; it was formed in 1964 when the people rose up to challenge the puppet government that had been put in place by the British colonialist administration. 17,000 people died in this revolution to rid the British of any influence on its Island. This loss of life removed any physical presence the British had but it failed to remove the western culture that the British also provided.

 

Zanzibar’s Parliament recently passed a bill that outlaws homosexuality, this has been found necessary due to the high levels of homosexuality apparent in society. The government fears that this continued rise would erode its Islamic identity; hence we see that the government has reacted by putting forward 25-year prison sentence for Homosexuality, seven years for lesbians and life imprisonment for those found sodomising minors.

 

It would seem that from these measures that the government is clearly focussed on removing such behaviour from its society yet we find that the government has in fact promoted and given rise to homosexuality through encouraging in society the concept of personal freedom of individuals.

 

The ruling party of Zanzibar the Chama cha Mapinduzi, Deputy Secretary General Saleh Rahmadan Feruzi told of the successes of Zanzibar since revolution were due to “freedom of movement and freedom of expression. That legacy lives on." A society that encourages freedom of expression inevitably allows people to satisfy the sexual instinct as they wish allowing the rise of homosexuality and other forms of sexual deviation.

 

This problem is not just present in Zanzibarian society but is apparent in all societies because this very notion of freedom is promoted, throughout the world. In the West this notion of Freedom has given rise to startling statistics of record number of teenage pregnancies, rapes and child abuse. This is clearly due to the notion that society has promoted to individuals the freedom to satisfy their sexual instinct as they wish.

 

Unfortunately due to the absence of Islam in the Muslim world, this concept of freedom is promoted by the puppet governments and will inevitably give rise to the clear sexual deviation apparent in the West. It is only through the application of Islam on a state level can society be moulded with the Islamic viewpoint and direct the sexual instinct to its correct method of satisfaction – Marriage between male and female.

[Warrior of Light]

Alhamdullilah Im happy some changes are being made back home.

 

I dont agree with this statement though

." A society that encourages freedom of expression inevitably allows people to satisfy the sexual instinct as they wish allowing the rise of homosexuality and other forms of sexual deviation.

 

Zanzibar is %99.9 Muslim (should i say was)and people were highly religious. And if it was freedom of expression they always had it and followed the Quran as theyre guidance in life. It is utterly known that such acts are haram.

The so called changes happened after infilitration from the mainland, the islamic ideals were slowly eroded.

 

This homosexuality issue started to be a problem in the late 90s when the Zanzibar govt were forced to open their doors to tourists and exiled zanzibarians living in the west and middle east to boost the economy.

 

The people from the middle east are famously known as 'june-july' who come and have extravagant parties for this elicit relationships thus becoming rampant now a days in the islands. Such that even the natives are diseased.

 

I only hope the mainland wont interfere with this ruling as they tend to with the Islands affairs especially when they concern religious issues.

Though I fear when the ruling is taken into action some people will be used as scapegoats.A problem in developing countries those in power or material strength are never touched.

[Saxardiid]

Muslims we need to have right to free speech like any other concept in democracy. But it must be in our terms i.e. free speech, which is in line with our beliefs and cultures. Free speech is not bad as a concept but it depends on what bases? On Homosexuality issue in Muslim societies it must be challenged from all sides, Culturally, morally, as a health issue i.e. Aids etc.

[NGONGE]

I don’t know how freedom and democracy relates to this homosexuality issue!

Surely if the state outlaws something then it’s outlawed; the freedom part does not come into it anymore. If a child abuser attempts to use his “freedom of speech” to tell everyone that child abuse is ok, he’ll be ignored by all and his comments will only create disgust and anger. He would still have the freedom to express those views but not the freedom to change things. Anyway, for us, democracy has never been the answer. What will only apply to our Islamic ways is a benevolent dictatorship.

[Jaabir]

just 25 years?!! man i would stone them faggots to death...

[Reality Check]

It's all good and well that a country makes laws for itself outside the "puppet" governments, but I see problems that could potentially arise with this ban on homosexuality. Exactly how will they determine if someone IS a homosexual? Will they follow islamic law (ie. having 4 witnesses at the scene of the "crime", determining whether the persons involved are of sound mind, etc etc)?

 

Besides, why do lesbians only have 7 years in prison, while gays have 25 yrs?

 

And isn't prison gay-heaven for homosexuals? :confused:

[Qac Qaac]

they should kill them.. why 25 yrs. ask them 3 times. then kill him. mac salaama

[Rokko]

Are you gay?

 

Are you gay?

 

Are you gay?

 

 

booom, bash, qac, qub, Dead.

[Truth Seeker]

Assalamu alaikum

 

The article raises a number of points that a number of people have also raised in the discussion.

 

First of all the punishment for homosexuality is stoning to death and this sentence just shows how the Laws of islam are no longer applied and islam is shown as backwards (one style is by showing the 'barbaric' nature of the penal system).

 

As to the point of how freedom promotes such morality is clear you are either given islam or somehting else (kufr) hence this will be the predominate thought in life. In all society's islam is not fully promoted and what is promoted is freedom and what this freedom expounds is man is to enjoy himself.

 

Because this concept is pushed people define there own levels fo satisfacation hence you have people that will satsify their sexual instincs through homosexuality, but because this concept is pushed so fiercly you will have people who will go further and practice paedophilia.

 

The point is in a islamic society you have islamic thought pushed and this expounds marriage (in this case) as to satisfy the sexual instinct hence you do not give rise to such abomination.

 

But the problem is we do not have islam in society. The muslims are realising the contradiction between how we live our lives to that of the kufr (the incompatibility) and this gives rise to the inevitable clash of civilisations.

 

Going back to the issue of Zanzibar this makes it clear where in a muslim land kufr is implemented and has given rise to gays, the people have realised that Islam is being eroded away.

 

a detailed discussion but i hope ive given some insight into my point, im happy to clarify or expand any points or stand to be corrected...

[Liqaye]

And isn't prison gay-heaven for homosexuals?

Not much of a punishment.

[The Observer.]

guys, even if prison is the safe heaven, atleast innocent children won't be the victims.

am glad zenjibar, has gone to this, an example should continue to the middle eastern countries now, haha.

[N.O.R.F]

Imprisonment????thats a joke,,,,,,they shudnt get the option, straight stoning, simple, effective, quick and right!