Dahireeto Posted October 16, 2018 Senator Rubio on Saudi Arabia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted October 16, 2018 KHASHOGGI BIOGRAPHY Jamal Khashoggi was born in Medina in 1958. His grandfather, Muhammad Khashoggi, who was of Turkish origin (Kaşıkçı), married a Saudi Arabian woman and was personal physician to King Abdulaziz Al Saud, the founder of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Khashoggi is the nephew of late, high-profile Saudi Arabian arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, known for his part in the Iran-Contrascandal, who was estimated to have had a net worth of US$4 billion in the early 1980s. Jamal Khashoggi’s cousin, Dodi Fayed, was dating the UK's Princess Diana when the two were killed in a car crash in Paris. He received his elementary and secondary education in Saudi Arabia and obtained a bachelor's degree in business administration from Indiana State University in the United States in 1982 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted October 16, 2018 It seems they are looking a replacement and MBS is done for sure as the next future King. His cousin Abdalla which suppose to be next King have now the chance to make comeback. This is a typical western political culture to sacrifice one individual's political career. Will MBS be ignorant to refuse to disappear?. Is this will be a lesson for Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the Emirati leader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted October 17, 2018 I believe the spoiled Prince made another denial today and the Turks leaked more stuff after they heard. It is a chess game. If he keeps talking, the Turks will keep leaking more stuff. Once the video comes out, the world is going to see how brutal this man is. PS: I didn't know Khashoggi had Turkish origin. That is very interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted October 17, 2018 “We are strong and old allies,” the crown prince said in English, in brief remarks as the meeting began. “We face our challenges together, as the past, as today, for tomorrow, implying we are all together here. The Alsacuudi family has Turk connections if not Turk heritage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 17, 2018 It all depends how the admission is framed. If they cut him to pieces that would be a disaster. The Turks are holding the key so far. If the Saudis keep denying, the leaks and the pressure will continue. The counsel general had left but the Turks will be digging his residence tomorrow. By the way, this senator Graham became unhinged these days. He is a Trump close ally and his barking will not bite that much. Yet, there is growing pressure to sack MBS. The problem is this guy had dismantled a 70 years old system that produced an orderly transition of kings and crown princes. He want to replace the Al-Saud dynasty with Al-Salman one. Sons of former kings like Cabdalla and Fahad are jailed, in a coma after a beating or disappeared after being jailed. Yet, no one can put back the genie in to the box again. King Salman is in a poor health conditions, and might not last few more years. despite all of that, it will a difficult to find a new group of leaders at this stage. It is the time of Salman family which had waited their turn in the Saudi kingship since 1958, almost 60 years. MBS is the first SAudi leader who understood the economic powers of the Kingdom. The oil market is bigger than the combination of other precious metals. Almost $1.8 Trillion of oil is traded in the world market per year, and the Saudis are the largest producers of light crude oil in the world. They can shake the world. By the way, they didn't use the oil as a weapon since 1973. JUst like the western countries had used aid money to influence the policies of the developing countries for decades, the Saudis are using their economic leverage to put pressure on others to implement their agenda. Despite what the envirmental fools say, oil is the lubricant of the world economy and nothing can be done without it. Too bad here in Canada the green fools had denied us to pump more oil like any other nation. Further more, the Iranians are trying to circle the Kingdom from Iraq, Syria and now in Yemen. They must reverse these Iranian policy of targeting to overthrow the monarchy. Allying the United Sates is the logical move for them at the moment. Since the Roman times, world power mostly concentrates in one place and today it place is Washington. In my opinion, MBS will storm this crises and survive. He might disappear for a while from the media and comeback. This incident probably is a good lesson for him to slow down act in measured way. Who knows, this tragedy might have saved him from other reckless moves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted October 17, 2018 Xijaas and najdi carabi the United States can't touch maxammad bin salman. Simply because the man is sitting the Petros dollar he has the American by the balls they gave him free pass to bomb Yemen into the stone age . The sacuudis took town the twin towers but we all know no sanctions on the sacuudis ever Osama bin laden sacuudi Khalid sheikh maxammad sacuud Iyo qaar kalo baddan irhaabiyin ah Nobody cares about this Turkey guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted October 17, 2018 The WP is reporting MBS went into depression for few days after the news and came back with more rage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted October 17, 2018 14 hours ago, galbeedi said: In my opinion, MBS will storm this crises and survive. He might disappear for a while from the media and comeback. This incident probably is a good lesson for him to slow down act in measured way. Who knows, this tragedy might have saved him from other reckless moves. It doe not look like he will survive. He made too many enemies inside Saudi Arabia with his cousins jailing and taking their wealth while he was buying luxury boat, Leonardo De Vince Salvator Mundi Paint and a Castle in France for total price of 1.2 billion dollars. He also jailed thousand of business people, Muslim Scholars, Journalists, economists, women etc. He is so arrogant that he send some of his personal guard to murder Jamal Khashoggi in the most gruesome way inside Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. His western admirers now changed his name from MBS to Mister Bone Saw - Abu minshar in arabic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted October 17, 2018 The whole story is changing to different level, now both Trump and MBS have to survive together. Trump is lifting the turk sections and they are talking about giving a burial for the missing writer. The odds are not good for good ending. Erdgon and Turkey have much more information they did not leak yet. MBS is ruthless and no one knows how long he can go and he may take Trump with him. This could be the modern watergate. Trump and Pompeo continue to defend Saudi Arabia over Khashoggi crisis. https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/17/politics/trump-pompeo-saudi-defense/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted October 18, 2018 Jamal Khasoggi's last column is now published by the Washington Post. Jamal Khashoggi: What the Arab world needs most is free expression By Jamal Khashoggi October 17 at 7:52 PM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 18, 2018 The American deep state want to connect Trump and MBS together. The latest leaks from the intelligence community is that they believe MBS and his office directed the killing. They and the media do not mind this tragedy to continue another two weeks just before the election. At the end they want to paint an American leader allying himself with those who decapitate journalists. Further more, if the Turks can't find the body in the next few days it will be problematic for all. Who knows, maybe the chopped him and took him in their bags in pieces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, galbeedi said: urther more, if the Turks can't find the body in the next few days it will be problematic for all. Who knows, maybe the chopped him and took him in their bags in pieces. why would they leave the body behind? that would be a a very poor mission. He was taken out in diplomatic bags, which can NOT be searched under international law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted October 18, 2018 Why Jared Kushner reportedly wants Trump to stand by Saudi Arabia Jared Kushner reportedly told President Donald Trump to stand by Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman — despite mounting evidence that the royal was involved in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi two weeks ago. Kushner’s reasoning? International outrage over other incidents, like Saudi Arabia’s bombing of innocent children in Yemen and kidnapping of Lebanon’s prime minister, decreased with time. The scandal over the disappearance of Khashoggi, a US resident and Washington Post writer, would similarly go away, he argued. That’s one of the more jarring tidbits in a Thursday New York Times report, which also notes that Riyadh plans to blame a Saudi intelligence official — Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, who is close to the crown prince — for Khashoggi’s murder. A source close to Kushner, however, told CNN’s Jake Tapper the story is inaccurate As of now, it’s still unclear what, exactly, happened to the Saudi journalist or who is responsible. But some reports indicate that Khashoggi was beaten, killed, and posthumously dismembered inside Istanbul’s Saudi Consulate on October 2. Turkish authorities are searching for his remains in wooded areas outside of Istanbul. Trump told reporters on Thursday afternoon that it “certainly looks” like Khashoggi is dead, and vowed “severe” consequences if Saudi royals were behind the possible killing. To a certain extent, Kushner is correct — public attention did shift from the recent Yemen tragedy and Saad Hariri’s kidnapping, although they have since informed the realization that Mohammed bin Salman, also known as MBS, is a reckless autocrat. But what’s notable here is that Kushner doesn’t want the US to respond to Khashoggi’s alleged murder in any way. He simply wants America to forget the incident ever happened. That’s perhaps not so surprising. Kushner has cultivated a personal relationship with MBS while serving as senior White House adviser for Middle East affairs. He and the crown prince even text on WhatsApp, an encrypted messaging app. Because of his close ties to the Saudi royal, Kushner has purposely stayed out of the spotlight during the scandal. https://www.vox.com/2018/10/18/17996320/saudi-arabia-khashoggi-kushner-trump-nyt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
