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One of the reasons why Germany lost the war

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Chimera   

With the German war machine stretched and millions of men send to multiple fronts, the Germans fought a world war only using 50% of their society. Unlike the US, Britain and the Soviet Union who had mobilised their female population for the war effort, Germany relied on slave labour that lacked the efficiency and high quality that the Allies enjoyed when they employed skilled female workers.(though the Soviets also had their disgusting Gulag camps)

 

The Middle East and most of Africa today are committing the same dumb blunder, thinking they with their 50% mentalities can compete with countries such as South Korea or the US who use 100% of their society's talent. Now this is one of the main reasons why i abhor the scenario of Al-Shabaab taking control of the entire country, these degenerates don't even plan to use 50% of our society, but instead believe they can run a state where 97% is obliterated, jailed, or killed. Somalia needs the entire 100% to prosper, there is no other way.

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Khayr   

Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel:

Germany didn't lose the war. Germany won the war.

 

Look at the European Union today.

Why you anti-semtic, somali wanna be? How dare you say that? :mad:

 

They lost, they lost and history was written by the coalition aka America, England, France and Israel. ;)

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Chimera   

Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel:

Germany didn't lose the war. Germany won the war.

 

Look at the European Union today.

Today Germany is using 100% of their society. A non-agressive Germany would have become Europe's economic and political leader by default, due to its large population. The war was actually a giant blunder that set them back for more than 40 years afterwards, divided between two superpowers, thats hardly a victory, not to forget all the money they had to pay to multiple 'victor' countries for decades, or the stigma that came with being the nation that had murdered so many people.

 

You have a very interesting definition of 'victory'.

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Rayyan   

Germany lost the war for so many reasons: just to highlight a few points in concise(From an amateur historian).

 

- To open the Russian front was wrong, same mistake as Napoleon. The Russian’s bad weather was on their side, and their counter attack was devastating, they break the siege but it cost them a lot, but at the end they came marching to East Berlin.

 

The Propaganda war of allies was strong.

 

The over confidence of germans when they run over France; kick out the British army stationed in France, and chase them to shores of Normandy.

 

Field marshal Rommel accessing,if it happens, he said - the counter attack of the allies will be here at Normandy beach and whoever wins that day is the winner of war at the end.

 

He coined the longest day -will be that day. ordered the panzers to be brought in but the Furore was becoming Psychotic, thinking there will be no counter-attack from the otherside of the channel, and didn’t adhere to the advice, the guy disappointed and demoralised he rod to Berlin and done a suicide. In military history he was regarded as one of the most brilliant field marshals in modern history, and was called Desert Fox, outfoxed the British in the North African desert duel.

 

 

The sound technological advantage of Germany is always regarded as superior to the rest of its rivals, some even jokes, Germany made cars as others made bread, and after all it’s Von Braun, who put Americans over the moon. The rocket scientist, the Americans nik him from the devastated Germany to advance their technical know-how, as Russians aslo took their share of the herd,the nerds of that time.

 

"The bridge too far" is interesting war-epic(a blockbuster by all means),a good illustration the real face of the war, when allies bring all their best generals to take over Arnhem bridge in Holland,Germany to spread-head to Germany mainland first time. And field marshal Model dig in defending the fatherland. A hand to hand, and house to house combat resulted the operation to became failure. And at the end, the Germans asked the British garrison officer to surrender – "Go to hell" was the first and the last words he uttered- that was the Anthony Hopkins. As British LT.Colonel. the film was directed by Richard Attenborugh. Quality and historic film.a star-studded film( everyone who's who in hollywodd at time was in that film.

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The German war machine was the greatest in military history. They changed the way war is fought.

 

And the Desert Fox is considered the best military comander of all time.

 

The war was a close call, considering the US, England, Russai were fighting Germany alone..

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NASSIR   

Adam, ever wondered of such issues as American kids' underperformance at schools, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, suicidal cases among teens, it's because of the rise of feminism (the use of 100% society argument), and the establishment and support of day care facilities by the government. A number of studies have shown that such facilities have deprived kids of the nurture and love their absent, working mothers could have afforded them. Feminism is all about making most women labor hard (even without paid maternety leave) and thus sustain increase of tax and sales revenues for the government and corporations, respectively. (At least other rich nations recognize the need for accomodation for our working mothers and family values)

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Rayyan   

Originally posted by General Duke:

The German war machine was the greatest in military history. They changed the way war is fought.

 

And the Desert Fox is considered the best military comander of all time.

 

The war was a close call, considering the US, England, Russai were fighting Germany alone..

Duke,

 

For the historic point of view, do you know the film you posted some time, in here: The bad, the ugly and good, was never, scripted, diected or produced, or made in USA, it was done by one of the most creative italian directors, and Clint Eastwood was never known or popular in USA as film star, but that genius, italian director made both Clint eastwood and what they call Spagetti Cowboy films and sell them back to USA. most of his films in made in Spain, and the beat americans in there own game.... Sheeg hadaad garto magaciisa? no marks for Google or giigle. :D

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Victory in the second world war was not decided by the results in the western or eastern fronts, but rather the second world war was won and lost at sea. In this respect the outcome of the battle of the Atlantic was imperative. If Germany had the number of U-boats Admiral Donitz required at the start of war than I for one would be typing in English today.

 

Donitz firmly believed that had he had the

‘magical’ 300 operational U-boats he would have forced Britain to surrender.

 

However the involvement of Hitler in the Kreigsmarine and the lack of operational U-boats, coupled with the slow level of technological development sealed Germany's fate in the Atlantic. The timely intervention of the USA in the war effort also sealed the Kriegsmarine's fate.

 

So the war was won and lost at sea amigos.

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Ryan that man was Sergio Leone if I am not mistaken? I beliee he made a great, much underated gangster flick. Once upon a time in America with James Woods, Robert De Niro, about the early Jewish Mafia of New York.

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Some will tell you, that Germany's loss was because of the western Allies advantage and superiority in the propaganda war, the 'Allies' had the moral high-ground on the Germans, regarding their 'humanity' is what is being taught in schools.

 

So the Allies had to win the war because they were right, whilst the Germans were the aggressors and evil ones and thus their loss was pre-programmed. It doesn't matter how it happened or came by.

 

To kill 250,000 people and drop an bomb on them, burn the crop and poison the ground, to save further casualties in the war and that of American and allied troops and soldiers is indeed one of the many signs that the West had the moral high ground over the wicked Nazis.

 

'It's an ideology thing they say'. That's why the Soviets lost to the West because for the same reason.

 

And that's why the West will lose to the East because of the East's sacrifices and determination. They never sleep, they're like machines.

 

And then the 'West' will come together with another 'East', the Islamic East to defeat the before mentioned East.

 

Thus the 'West' and the Islamic 'East' will meet and fight it until the Islamic East reign supreme as God's representatives on this earth.

 

Then something of great importance will happen and a man will disappear from the area between Syria and Iraq, the Masiixi Dajjal the last of the 30 false prophets, who will appear and claim to be divine.

 

After that the Prophet Issa is sent back onto earth and he will eventually defeat the Dajjal after that a war will happen, in which the East will gain prominence again and they will attack the Muslims but they will be killed and Allaah will protect Prophet Issa and the Muslims on his side after that the world will come slowly but surely to an end and only the weakest and most evil will dwell in it and those will befall the great torment of the Qiyaamah, the Worlds end, which is an utter devastation and no believing soul should be tormented with it except the most evil and wicked of mankind, who are prescribed the horrors and apocalyptic collapse of the world nothing seen in a science fiction move but a great torment! The Earth will be removed from within, whilst they are dwelling on it, literally the carpet will be pulled from their feet! And the heavens and fundament that hold them will come crushing down on them!

 

These are surely the most evil and most wicked people of all time beside the other nations and people who disbelieved and were subjected to a great torment and ruin as well.

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ANWAR   

Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel:

Germany didn't lose the war. Germany won the war.

 

Look at the European Union today.

heeeee I AGREE 100% ;)

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