CHANCES OF SUCCESS FOR TURKEY’S EFFORTS : Turkey has not been among the players in the Somali game in the recent past, and as such, many have been surprised by the swift action in which Ankara tries to show the world, which is dragging its feet for over two decades without giving even a nominal hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel, that Somalia indeed has friends who are on their side. Soon after he visited Mogadishu, the Prime Minister of Turkey, Recep Tayyib Erdogan, took the Somali case to the United Nations General Assembly 66th General Debate. He said in a major speech to the world leaders: “Last month in Somalia, for instance, I witnessed in person how the UN and the international community remained helpless against the pressing problems of today. It is impossible for me to put into words the poverty and suffering I have seen in Somalia”. He said his country has “collected a donation of about 300 million USD within the last two months. Furthermore, the amount of our humanitarian assistance surpassed the level of 30 million USD until now.” “We also organized an emergency meeting of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Istanbul and the amount of pledges made on this occasion exceeded 350 million USD”, he said. The way Turkey is acting in Somalia, with such high speed, no doubt surpassed what most of the people would have imagined, whether it is just a humanitarian gesture or politically motivated to show the world its strength as a regional power vying to have, as Turkish Deputy Prime Minister, Bulent Arinc, was quoted as saying “a bigger say in international affairs.” It is my conviction that Turkish intention to help Somalia, which is in dire need of a true and selfless counterpart, to help come out of the abyss of despair, is, no doubt, an honest and genuine initiative which merits the unconditional support of any Somali who has his/her country at heart. Unlike most of the so-called brotherly or friendly countries who offered their assistance through channels, which Somalis have no say or able to control, Turkey chose to be directly involved in the implementation of its projects for the rehabilitation of Somalia’s devastated hospitals, schools, roads etc. “We are making every effort to carry out infrastructure investments that will enable Somalia to stand on its feet. We are also working unrelentingly to help provide an environment of political stability and peace conducive to sustainable development”, the Prime Minister or Turkey, Erdogan told the world leaders at the UN 66th General Debate. “By re-opening of our Embassy in Mogadishu, we have also showed the world that claims of security challenges cannot be an excuse for delaying assistance”, Erdogan said. During the last 20 years or so, emphasis was laid on processes of “Peace and reconciliation” while reconstruction, education or jobs for the youth etc. have rarely been mentioned. Nearly 20 conferences were held and all ended in failure. All of a sudden, Turkey emerges with such a gigantic multi-faceted program of assistance to Somalia covering the restoration or, in some cases, the reconstruction of medical centers, schools and repairing of the roads damaged during the civil war, deserves to be welcomed. The Turkish program is not a military intervention. It is a civilian intervention aimed, as the Prime Minister Erdogan told the UN, “Along with emergency humanitarian aid, Turkey is also determined to help build the Infrastructure facilities that will enable this country to stand on its feet.” But to avoid failure it must be taken into consideration also that Somalia needs not only building of “infrastructure facilities” but more importantly it is necessary to generate employment for the youth, who, since the collapse of the dt in 1991, have known nothing but killing and looting to earn a living. Same also applies to the situation of the pirates in the Somali Sea, whose rights to fish in their own territorial waters has been usurped by foreign and powerful fleets. So, being the first of its kind to be implemented in Somalia, for the last 20 years, the authorities in charge of the Turkish Plan for Somalia’s reconstruction should also consider generating jobs for skilled and unskilled Somalis, to help them earn their living as normal and law-abiding citizens, who otherwise would be attracted by the job of militia or piracy offers which are so abundant in the Somali market. In today’s Somalia, jobs and peace are inter-related. If the youth in the country are not given any alternative employment to becoming militias of organized groups or even freelancers, the risk of causing the failure of any initiative to be under-taken by national or foreign governments is high. The other aspect that can cause failure of this first ever project undertaken by Turkey in Somalia for more a century or so, is to condone corruption and mismanagement during the implementation of the project by any quarter, so that the dignity of the two peoples are protected and to see a successful end of his historic plan. To build a bridge in a troubled sea is not easy, but, at the same time, as the Prime Minister of Turkey, Erdogan said “security challenges cannot be an excuse for delaying assistance.” Xigasho

Why the sudden interest of Ingiriiska in Soomaaliya? Su'aashaas ma isweydiisay. Well, as they say, history repeats itself. Read this qoraal. ___________________ Somalia: The Turkish Connection It was, for some, a cause for surprise to see the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his wife Emine, paying a visit to the war-torn country of Somalia, on August 19, 2011, less than two weeks after when, as the government put it, the “Al-Shabab Militias were defeated” and forced out of the capital on August 6, 2011. Erdogan’s visit followed the visit of President Ismail Omar Guelleh, of the sisterly Republic of Djibouti on August 16, 2011. For both the leaders, a visit to Mogadishu has been a courageous step, knowing the fragility of the Somali capital’s security situation, as it was only two weeks after Al-Shabaab militias also said that they were “retreating” from Mogadishu. When all others stayed away, visits of such important leaders were great encouragement and a morale boost for the people of Somalia as well as an expression of solidarity with them. Soon after his visit to Mogadishu, Erdogan took his experience to the United Nations General Assembly’s 66th Session General Debate, where he told the world leaders’ gathering: “This is a shame for the international community, which must stop watching the famine in Somalia unfold “as if it were a movie” and, instead, act with great urgency.” In an article “Tears of Somalia” published by the US Magazine “Foreign Policy” on October 10, 2011, the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan affirmed his country’s diplomatic and political support with the people of Somalia “with whom,” he said, “we have deep historical relations.” The “historical relations” between Turkey and Somalia mentioned by the Turkish Prime Minister, are indeed “deep” and their roots go back during the rule of Sultan Salim I in 1517 when the Ottoman Empire took over Zeyla and Berbera. To see how deep they were, we have to go back to the historic events of the past. Like today in the 21st century, when the powers watch each other’s movements in the world, 140 years ago, in 1870, the British authorities in Aden, Yemen, were following the activities of the Turks in Somali territories of Berbera and Bulhar. On February 11, 1870, General Russell who was head of the British garrison in Aden that “Turkish man-of-war Khartoum commanded by Mahomed Jemal Pasha had landed troops at Berbera.” The General told his government that “he was about to send Her Majesty’s Ship Sind to the spot to keep a watch on the happenings and to prevent, if possible, the tribe from committing their kingdom to Moslem rule.” In the area, or across the sea, the British established a garrison in Aden, Yemen, in 1839. They saw the Turks, a Muslim power, as a threat to their interest in the Red Sea and the coastal area opposite to Yemen, where they considered an important source of meat supply to their garrison in Aden. At that time, the Turkish claim over Somali territories was clearly emphasised by the Turkish Pasha in a letter referred to by the British resident at Aden, General Russell, who quoted in his report dated 1870 the Pasha as saying: “The ports of Berbera and Bulhar, and surrounding districts, are under the Government of the Sultan, and the people are his subjects; that there can be no cause for taking the country for the Turks, for the Turkish flag, it is known, is over the country; that he found the flag of the Porte with them, and, finally that he visited Berbera and Bulhar at the request of the Somalis to settle their disputes”. General Russell sent, in accordance with British Government Resolution n.1113 dated 7 April 1870, what he called “a confidential native agent” to Berbera: “To watch the action of the Turks, and to frustrate, if possible, the cession of the ports of Berbera and Bulhar to them, as they were, from information on which I placed reliance, about to take these ports under their (Turkish) rule”. Although the British considered Turks as rivals in competition with them in the race for Somali territories, they still admitted what the Turkish authorities have accomplished during their stay in the area. In a memorandum to his government, Major Hunter, who took over the territories after the Turkish Pasha withdrew, reported in 1884 that: “At Berbera the Egyptians [Turks] have done much to improve the port. A light-house has been built, an excellent pier has been run out into the harbour, and water has been brought in from a distance of eight miles, and is distributed all over, what may be called, a new settlement. Two musjids [masjids], besides barracks, a hospital, store-rooms and other public buildings have been constructed of a substantial nature, and would do credit to any administration”. After a century and a half, there are still visible traces of Turkish presence in the area and some of what they have done is used now, in 2011, by the Somalis in Berbera. I am told that the town is still supplied water from the same facilities built by the Turks and one of the mosques built by the Turks in 19th century, known as “Masjid Turkaawi” is still there, well maintained and used for prayers. When I visited Zaila in 1967, I have personally seen an unused wooden building which I was told it belonged to the Turkish Pasha. Although the Turks left on their own and leaving the territories to the British, who made them their Protectorate in 1886, the Somali people’s allegiance remained to the Turks. In February 1919, according to British sources, a number of Somalis from British Protectorate were arrested in Aden, Yemen. After the signing of armistice, these Somalis had come to Aden from Lahej, the headquarters of the Turkish Commander. They were tried by a British Military Court at Aden and were charged with fighting in the war on the side of the Turks in the Aden hinterland. According to the General Officer Commanding, Aden Field Force, “they were tried for being actively in arms against His Majesty, or as an alternative charge, actively assisting the enemy.” Those arrested, who were 146 out of 154, were deported and confined in the jails in the Bombay [india] Presidency. They were distributed into four jails in India. Later on the British decided to send the prisoners back home to former British Somaliland. (6) The fact that these Somalis were arrested and “charged with fighting in the war on the side of the Turks in the Aden hinterland”, means there could also be the possibility that some other Somalis might have lost their lives in support of Turkey in that same war. This shows how deep the connection between the two peoples was back in 19th century. Turkey was not among the nations that were part of the “Scramble for Africa”. They left Somali territories in 19th century on their own without incident or conflict with the Somalis. Therefore there has been no animosity between Somalia and Turkey. Whether it was in connection with the “historical relations” referred to by the Prime Minister of Turkey, Recep Tayyib Erdogan, or not, his visit to Mogadishu at this moment of hardship was highly significant and most welcome by the Somali people, who are in dire need of a brother indeed. The visit of the Prime Minister of Turkey to Somalia will surely revive the old connection between the two countries and peoples and the promises he made that his country will under take major reconstruction program, which includes digging wells to improve water supply, building field hospitals, a highway between the Mogadishu airport and the city centre, as well as facilities for waste management to clean up Mogadishu's rubbish-strewn streets are vital for the capital which is devastated by the civil war. He said Housing Development Administration of Turkey (TOKI) will also build houses and schools in the famine-hit country. Following are what the Turkish Government has promised to provide: 1) Emergency assistance: - Food and medical assistance -Technical assistance in food and medical distribution for displaced people - Turkish man-power (doctors & nurses) 2) Long-term developmental Assistance: -Infrastructure development: rehabilitation of schools and Hospitals -Building roads, sewage and sanitary system for Mogadishu. -Improvement of Mogadishu Seaport and Airport - Power supply system for Mogadishu. 3) Technical and Engineering personnel (capacity building) 4) Offering scholarships for Somali students and Educators. 5) Improving trade practices for Somali traders. To confirm what has been announced in Mogadishu during the visit of the Prime Minister of Turkey, Erdogan, the Somali President, Shaikh Sharif Sh. Ahmed, has been invited to Turkey on a two-day visit and met with the Turkish President, Abdullah Gull in Istanbul on October 21, 2011, who re-iterated that Turkey “will send the newly appointed Turkish Ambassador to Mogadishu shortly to oversee projects and carry out instructions and implementations.”

Nin-Yaaban;767946 wrote: Let me ask you this....do you consider a Somali person who doesn't pray x5 a day a Muslim? What's your definition of a Muslim/Gaal? I know so many Somalis here in Minnesota who are just Muslims by name, and do everything that Islam prohibits. Things like drink/smoke/etc. I dunno if there are any Somali-Christians, but i sure do kno there are MANY more non.practicing Somalis who just claim to be Muslim by name. I'd respect a Somali Christian who is upfront about their DIIN (Gaalonimo) than i would someone who claims to be Muslim but never practice. Just my 2 shillings. See camal, xaaji. Wax aan isku mid ahayn ayaa isla barbardhigeysaa. Muslim waa Muslim, hadduu tukaneynin ama soomeynin, asaga iyo Rabigiisa ayee jirtaa laakiin inaa su'aalnimo ka keeno Muslinnimadiisa waa dambi weyn asagoo leh Muslim baan ahay.

Not a bad scoreline, though. Dhib maleh. As Reer Maple Leafs of Koronto say, whose hockey team hadn't won a championship since '67, it is always next year.

But why the subtle advertising message on the bed frame. Yep, those letters CRD stand Centre for Research and Dialogue. I didn't know Amiin Caamir did product placement.

Ma wax la aqriyaa la waaye.

Midabka ay huwanyihiin ayaaba ka helay, siiba tan midigta jirto.

Dr_Osman;767539 wrote: I am calm, I am just suprised he claims his from mogadishu but is against waagacusub footage is something amiss here or is it me!!! sxb they want to diss bro but they dont want anything to say back. I feel sorry for them wallahi stay away from the maqahiyad if i were you its nasty as hell and no moderator either. I dont mind the dissing bro but i hate it when they dont allow me to diss back because I can win easily and I think they know it!!! or else they wouldnt care. I ignoring that dude posting about pirates yet his ppl are raping his kids, his ppl are starving and the youth are tahribbing and he worries about a couple hundred of pirates when thousands are on the brink of allow alle his backyard Wax walba waa kuu barogaraamsanyihiin yaah. All set pieces that fit nicely miyaa? A Reer Muqdisho has to 'hate' Reer Hargeysa, saas miyaa? A Reer Garoowe has to have a 'hatred' and grudge against Reer Muqdisho, sax? Nicely categorized for you with such a venom. Bisinka. Intaadan Soomaali wada nicin except your clan members, su'aalo ayaa ku weydiinayaa, young man. Goormaa dalkii kugu dambeysay? Afsoomaaligaa waa sidee. Maku hadli kartaa fluently even. And lastly, SOL doesn't facilitate the spewing of hatred (or what you call dissing) on this site daily. Bring your articles and opinions without showing such an animosity. It is for everyone.

Thread starter, what do you really have to contribute on this site than badmouthing certain Soomaalis from day one you joined? Did you just register again for that solely.

Waligey qof ma nacaladeen laakiin nijaaskaas iyo kuwa la aaminsan duqaas waayeelka waxba arag ku jees jeesteenaayo, handadaayo nacalad tii u weyneyd korkooda haku dhacdo, waa eeyga kii u weynaa kaas ka koow ah. Waayeelkaas sunada ka muuqato ayuu ku jees jeestenayaa asagii shalay dhashay shalay diin soo maqlayna. Wax arag la'aantiisa xataa kama fakan ku jees jeesteenaayo. I hope inay u dambeyso asagana inuu waxba arag, waxna maqal waaba hadduu noolyahay maanta.

Malika;767445 wrote: ^Your bored today..lol, adna miya kuu darsantee 'my house is bigger then yours' .crew..lool Waala iskaga daac daacsanoyaa, LoL. Don't you love the reactions above me.

"Off to parliament" la yiri. Is that a baarlamaan? Our house and compound in Xamar was/is bigger than that.

The only recognized -- and I can personally respect -- Soomaali gaal ah waa Maykal Maryama. And I don't think he celebrated this thing, since true Christian badan aynan u dabaaldegin. Inta kale waa qashin iyo quraafaadkooda.

Gaaladii markee iska dhaafeen asagana soo boodaaba. Gaaladii ayaaba isku heysto inay isdhahaan 'Merry Christmas' or not. Gadaal ka gaar indeed waa goob dumis. At least 'Happy Holidays' ama 'Season's Greetings' iska dheh. Mise kuwaan Hargeysa masoo gaarin miyaa?

Maxaa siyaasad keenay, xaaji. No, I am not like that dude. Qof camalkeyga leh kuma jiro meesha, walaa rich, walaa nice bilaa jerk oo marax ah.

Yaa kala sheegi karo saxiixyadaan dadkee kala yihiin.

See, Cambuulo, waligaa 'nice' ha noqon haddii kale saan kugu dhaceyso. Tii ganfuurka kuu taagto laba ganfuur u taag. Tii kuu dhoolacaddeyso, jees jees u fiiri.

Aawey iyadoo Afsoomaali. Afkaas Ingiriiska bas in lagu qoray u egtahay see ahaan jirtayba. Ma Soomaaliyaa mise shisheeye dadka wax kala saxiixanaayo. Shuud. N. B. - Waxaa arkaa 'illiterate' simple saxiixyo.

Beledweyne waxaa ku nool 789,485? Burco with 457,830 dad?? Boorama iyo Berbera iyagana 370,900 iyo 180,000 respectively? Gaalkacyo iyadana 390,000? Waxaan yaa qoray. Did you just write before you posted it? Wikipedia waa iska ogaa laakiin saan kuma ogeyn.

Wax badan idinka yarahay kulahaa. Koow. Haye, keenba dhalashaada aan aragnee to compare to ours. Teeda kale, waraa, xaafadaha Hodan ilaa iyo laba jirkeeda waaba ku shirbi jiray oo hal hal u kala aqaanay, not because of da'. Che, hadhoowna qof kale ha eedeynin, this time ku adkeyso Yaaqshiid.

To the sister, Rabi ha u raxmado aabo. Samir iyo iimaan reerka iyo adigaba. Sanadkaan 2011 sanad aad iyo aad u wacan ayuu ahaa shaqsi ahaanteyda. Mid lama iloowaan ah. Eebbaa ku mahad leh. Waxaana ogaaday inay duco waalid aad u muhiim tahay, ducadoodana wax walba kuu sahleyso, iridaha kuu fureyso. Marka Reer SOLers, waalidkiina ka duceysta, siiba haddee aad u da'yihiin, ka duceysta, ka farxiya.

How come no sawiro from Xamar of his arrival still? Axmed Naaji, along with Faadumo Qaasin (Eebba ha u raxmadee), waa fanaanka u daljecel ee Soomaalida. No question about it. For that, mudnaan weyn ayuu ku leeyahay bulshada Soomaaliyeed ee dalkooda jecel.

Shaqsiyaal daneysi wato waaye, oo awooda sare ku jiraan rabo had iyo jeer in the name of maamul goboleed. It is not working and it won't work because maamul goboleedyo maba dhisno, mana dhismi doonto. If it goes into their way, maamul goboleed magac u yaal badan ayaa koow sii bilaabanaayo, and they will want their share of the pie. And that would make baarlamaanka to consist more than 1,000 xildhibaano because too many magac u yaal maamul goboleed would want inay soo magacaabaan xildhibaanadooda. How will it be allocated without census? Will a large gobol with less population receive more allocation than a small gobol with more people? Simply, another reason it won't work. It would have been great if they rejected the flawed 4.5 in the name of principle, which most sane Soomaalis agree. Laakiin dano gaar ah ayaa looga soo horjeedaa, and not in principle. Qof walba oo wax arki karo ayaa arka taas.

Hodan 4 vs Shibis 0 Hodan oo ku tumatay Shibis! Che, war lee maa wadeenaa. Who is your team now? Viva Reer Hodan.