^Speaking of shock, Many African American males submit their DNA for genetic genealogy just to find that their great great grandfather was white. Imagine the shock on these men's faces when they are told that they are part Caucasian. Henry Louis Gates Jr does program that traces African American ancestry. He first did mostly for famous blacks but later incorporated regular folks. I found out from the program Morgan Freeman's great great grandfather was white. web page Academic research about Somalis might not be bad idea. Naxar...I'm pretty sure you and I aren't related. I can say that with some confidence.

^If anything, at least you are on message.

^Have you ever been your Qabiil's gathering. Mar waa qoslay marna yaabee.

Originally posted by Ms DD: Aaliya I hate to agree, but there is some truth to what Che said. Che Dig a little deeper? is that an invitation? Yeeeeey..someone agreed LooooooooooL@DD, It's just that first impression can be wrong. Lily-You are right. Living healthy should be the goal. The rest will come naturally. Never miss breakfast. It kick starts your metabolism. Aaliyah..You are very kind. You are welcomed.

^How come you didn't send her my way Anyway, signs can be misleading. Dig little deeper, and you might be surprised.

MS DD...You have me wrong. Aaliyah...for that helpful suggestion I gave granted you didn't have much use for it.

There's absolutely no room for differences of opinion within clan groupings Individuals have diverse opinions, people don't as they ruled by mob mentality, atleast certainly in the case of Somalia.

^LoooooooooooooL..I will leave it there then. My eedo has come Aaliyah...I was being helpful. Atleast a thank you would be nice

^They ain't doing it right! I shouldn't assume, but most of my wadaad female friends are married.

Aaliyah..That's if you are married dear. And I thought you were since you sound like wadaad type Afromantic...It's proven fact-courtesy of Castro, it really does shave off pounds.

Aaliyah-Think about something dreadful.And I heard of lot sex helps speed the metabolism.

^Playing hide and seek.

^same old line I see

Ibti-There are only four major tribes in Somalia, and the civil war was fought along tribal lines. SNM was entirely made of particular community, so was SSDf, and USC. To tie Sool, Awdal, and Sanaag to SNM struggle and assume these communities have the same interests and outlooks is major mistake. The issue was never south vs north. It was simply Qabiils asserting themselves and fighting for own their interests. So, let every Qabiil speak for itself. Let every major tribe their own reconciliation, and there could one national reconciliation between the four major tribes that could determine Somalia's future. P.S. Awdal, Sool and Sanaag have greivances just like all other Somalis, but the point i'm trying to make is they don't feel the Somali government was subjugating them in any particular way, atleast not more than the rest of Somalia. They do realise the Somali government was non-discriminatory when it comes the treatment of citizens.I don't think Hargeysa, Burco, and Berbera communities share those thoughts. LooooooooL@Castro

Ibti-What collective grievances do the communities in Awdal, Sool and Sanaag have against south. No member in these communities has ever pick arms against the former Somali government. They share the same grievances any other Somali has. They want good governance, better development,and justice for all. They were never collectively punished or particularly targeted. And they fully participated in all aspects of the Somali government. To put them in the same boat as communities from Hargeysa, Burco and Berbera who strongly feel the entire south and not just the government had in it for them would be mistake. These communities have diverse interests and unique grievances which can't be channelled and adequately addressed through the Somaliland admin. I say let every Somali tribe speak for themselves rather than sitting together on the false pretense. This is civil war and not war between coutries.

Ibti-I can't speak for Xiin, but I never supported extending the Somali conflict into north.If anything it's Hargeysa's admin drive into the east that's risking war and I have opposed that too,and those regions that oppose secession have the right to defend themselves. But I gotta admit Hargeysa has played its cards right and used the locals to farther secessionist agenda. If Red is for sitting down with the south when it's stabilized, I'm actually for that.But he's gotta realise the Somali institutions broke down to primal level. Any reconcialation has to be comprehensive and between all Somali communities(Qabiils). I don't see Somaliland admin as entity that could speak on behalf of the northern citizens. Each region of Somalia including all Somaliland regions have to make their own case, address their interests, and air their greivances. I appluad Somaliland as entity that ensured peaceful coexistence of the northern Somali, but I very much oppose this political entity to speak on behalf of the north. I'm spefically talking about the Hargeysa admin. It shouldn't be matter of two countries talking, but it should be chance for all Somalis to sit and iron out diffirences and make every Somali citizen get their fair share in the context of one Somalia reconciling with itself. As for him supporting Al-Shabaab, I welcome his support and I'm very appreciative of the fact that he realises Al-Shabaab is for one Somalia. If he's willing to support them with fact in mind, then great.

Ibti-Now we just need more disgruntled secessionists preferably from Hargaysa P.S. Ibti, Let's not pull Red's I support Al-Shabaab but I'm pro seccesion next time marka.

^No, we have enough wars and enough dead maryooley!!

Ibti- I fully oppose secession and I welcome any party in the north that supports union with the south. If reer Awdal cease to support secession, kudos to them. I'm fully behind them. I hope that makes it clear enough.

^Ibti-It's matter of being honest about one's political motives.

Originally posted by rudy-Diiriye: sland militia run back when they heard jaat kii baa so dacay. then pland militia run east cuz they heard that there was an indian ship sailing down the coast. Priceless

Originally posted by Cara: Aha, but is it over snooker? Do you gamble?

^Re-arrange...LooooooooooooL Maybe those you come across can't carry Macawis or Suurgaal well Ohhh..Helooooooooooo Lazy

^If there was a sole progenitor, all his males descendents could easily trace their ancestry through Y-chromosome which remains mostly unchanged from one generation to another. It passes down from a father, to son, grandson, great grandson,etc, etc. It would be interesting to do genetic genealogy on Somalis for academic purposes, of course it might have other repercussions. So Xiin and Naxar, do wanna volunteer DNA samples

I wonder how he feels about his treacherous sons And is it coincidence his tomb(considering that's actually him down there that's he existed at all) is painted blue and white. I love the name Doonbira though.