^Lazy moojad gaar ah ufuran. The Obama Administration doesn't quite know what to say or do. For once, it looks like no one is listening.

Lazy-I'm with the protesters and anyone promoting their agenda as long as men who acts as kings will be deposed. One would think you would appreciate as it could be counter to the Islamist movements who were largely born out of lack of political space.

LoooooL@Duke It looks like the army has taken side of the people unless they are setting up a trap.

^The Saudis will be shaken in Jordan and Yemen become next-right on their borders. I want to see Algeria next.

I wonder what House of Saud thinking now?

Thanks God for modern media-check the Egyptian TV and contrast it with Al Jazeera.God

Supposedly, the army is giving thumbs up to the demonstrators in Alexandria.

It looks like he's going the way of Ina Yeey.

Something will change.People no longer fear those in power.

The police have emptied the streets but who will the army side with? LooooooL@Duke-wouldn't that be the day Indians running Dubai.

The ruling party's headquarter is set on fire. Duke-agreed

Mubarak will address the nation soon and Al Jazeera offices are raided. Duke-Anything is possible. I think Yemen's situation might mirror Somalia's though.

Jacaylbaro;691035 wrote: I know the history is painful for you dee coz it is something you're a guilty of .... but nothing will make that history forgotten. Those u represent should know and take notes ... What am I guilty of and who do I represent?

^I can think we all agree with Val or atleast I can! Ibti-January 26 is the official date the country ceased to exist a State but many miseries preceded that of course 88 and Mudug. As for celebration such event, I thought Jb was making contrast.

Ibti-January 26 represents 20 years of misery-(not cause for celebration or triumph) that's what came to my mind. The comment was to provoke him not my proudest moment I admit.

LoooooooooooL@Ibti-I admit I was little insensitive in the other thread but I think was on point about Jb's motive. Jb...Aamin but I get it duqa and I'm happy Hargeysa is doing ok but enough with the story history lesson.

Duke-Maxaa badali doona? Soomaali sidee udhaheesay Ilahow Siyad Barre rid bee iloobeen maxaa badali doona. I hope these 'spontaneous' demonstrations in Egypt don't lead to total chaos.

^My biological father been dead for over 30 years ta kale ineen oday cajuus baate ninyahow if you were dealing with Duceysane's father.

^As long as we ignored Jb's motivation was not best of intentions. Actually, a museum is not bad idea. It will provide an opportunity for honest debates (not emotionally ridden) and platform for an objective study of the past. Of course, I'm assuming the museum will welcome objective academicians and students of history.

Promethues...Some said Lipset was being too optimistic but I guess time has proven him right at least upto an extent and you are right Siyaad Barre was simply not equipped to have long-term vision. As far as Somaliland concerned, I agree it's far from being liberal society in the political sense and people view government the same way as they did in the Somali republic. It's cash cow since it's the only thing generating income. GoldCoast-Perhaps I could phrased differently but we do have affinity to ancestral and would wann see develop. Ibti-JB is still pissed that I questioned his motive in the other thread ( Hargeysa 91). Blessed....I welcome stability in whatever form. Realistically, in Somalia that's all you could ask for and expect from Somalis.

They already shot kid in broad day light. This could be transformational moment.

People leave Stoic alone-there's nothing wrong with supporting region for clan reasons just as long as you don't create or contribute to the conflicts in Somali regions of the Horn. If anything, I hope Stoic helps his people and not just admire their development from distance.

Prometheus;690904 wrote: I suspect Somaliland and Puntland do not enjoy higher per capita GDP, lower child mortality, higher life expectancy, higher literacy, or any number of socioeconomic indicators that are used to analyze economic and social development. There’s no real economy to speak of in either region. Stoic mentioned ‘sophisticated’ developments in Somaliland. Let’s not lower the bar too much. I think you can find such ‘sophisticated’ developments in Puntland and the Deep South as well. Ironically enough some of the least things people talk in regards to the collapse of Somali State is the economic deprivation and lack of social development.Would the reign of Barre been any different if he modernized Somalia like Mahathir for Malaysia and will democracy without economic and social development last? What good does an election for illiterate, unemployed, hungry man?

^I'm not sure what you are talking.

Those Swedes must have dated Johnny Bravo