Horn, As usual you are dancing around the issue; I'll make it easier for you. Morgan was defeated and is now somewhere in Kenya. Now, will you condemn the heinous acts of the JVA and Indhacadde in Dhoobley? Or will you continue to support these warlords and make excuses for their crimes.

Horn dropped the Façade long ago. He is now fully at the service of Barre Hiraale, or did you not notice his constant cheerleading as of late.... Let us hope he comes full circle.

It is senseless to debate a man who can not even distinguish between an article and the medium through which it is delivered. This, in addition to his incoherent behavior and numerous "outbursts". I will, however, say this; what happened in Dhoobley is as clear as day to the rest of the world. Murder, looting, burning of property and other such acts, were carried out by the forces of Yusuf Indhacadde and Barre Hiraale. This is a "collective punishment" for the peoples 'support' of General Morgan. This is a common enough tactic used by many occupiers and should not surprise you. But Yusuf Indhacadde did not count on the people of Dhoobley resisting and evicting the invading forces out of their town. The warlord of Marka has been humbled by the poor Somalis of Dhoobley and sent running back to his fiefdom. But his blood soaked hands have left a trail behind him....

Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor: "Waxaa nalaku qasbay in aan dagaalka galno" Burtinle-Online Talaado, September 21 2004 Suldaanka degaanka Afmadow Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor oo markii ugu horeysay ka hadlay dagaaladii dhowaan ka dhacay degaanka Jubada Hoose ayaa eedeyn ba'an u jeediyay hogaamiye-kooxeedka Yuusuf Maxamed Siyaad (Indhacade) oo ka taliya gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose. Suldaanka ayaa sheegay in maliishiyooyin uu horkacayo Yuusuf Indhacade ay dab qabadsiiyeen degmada Dhoobley oo ku taala xuduuda ay Soomaaliya la wadaagto Kenya. Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor oo u waramay idaacada BBC laanta afka Soomaaliga ayaa sheegay inuu taageersan yahay dagaalka uu wado Generaal Moorgan kuna doonayo in uu ku qabsado magaalada Kismaayo "Moorgan isagaa markii hore Kismaayo laga qabsaday" ayuu yiri Suldaanku mar uu arinkaa faahfaahinayey. Suldaanka ayaa sidoo kale cadeeyay in maliishiyooyin ku abtirsada beesha uu Suldaanka u yahay ay ka qeyb qaateen dagaaladii dhowaan dhacay iyagoo la safan Gen.Maxamed Siciid Xirsi "Moorgan". Suldaanka ayaa ku hanjabay inuu shirka dib u heshiisiinta ee uu ka qeyb galayo ka bixi doono, hadii aan wax laga qaban dhibaatooyinka ka soconaya degaanada uu odayga u yahay. Dhanka kale Yuusuf Maxamed Siyaad (Indhacade) oo la xiriiray isla idaacada BBC ayaa iska fogeeyay eedeynta kasoo yeertay Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor, wuxuuna sheegay in waqtigii weerarka lagu qaaday degmada Dhoobley uu isagu ku sugnaa degaanka Buulo Mareer oo ka tirsan gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose. Indhacade oo wax laga weydiiyay in ciidamadiisu ka qeyb qaateen dagaalkii ka dhacay Dhoobley ayaa sheegay in ciidan uu leeyahay aaney ka qeyb qaadan dagaalkaas. Hogaamiye-kooxeedka ayaase qirtay inuu ku faraxsan yahay weerarka lagu qaaday Gen.Moorgan iyo Maliishiyooyinkiisa, balse aanu isagu marna ka qeyb qaadan. Burtinle-Online editor@burtinle.com http://www.burtinle.com/news/september/21sep.1.html

Mr. Xaashi, popularity aside, is content with being the next leader of Puntland. He is also not in the current parliament. You will be hard pressed to find an viable alternative candidate for Prime Minister. Also I dont belive that Addow and Yusuf could work effectively together. An old adage comes to mind, "politics makes strange bedfellows."

Galaydh is not in the parliament, and to my knowledge, that disqualifies him from the post of Prime Minister. So then the choice becomes between JCJ and A. Yusuf, if Addow does indeed prevail. It would be illogical to suggest that Addow would name the closely allied JCJ, and have the ARTA/SAMATOBIXINTA/JVA group controlling the top 3 positions in this new government(if you believe Shariff Xassan is with the above mentioned group). Highly unlikely. That would leave out Col. Yusuf and the SSRC group, and would seal the fate of the Federal TNG. This new government must inclusive of these two main factions if it is to succeed. I must agree with LST on the most likely outcome; Addow/A. Yusuf. And I would be very interested to know what his sources are....

Breaking News: Codadkii baarlamanka: Shariif Xasan oo helay 150 cod kabadan http://www.sbconline.net/index.php Photo: Here

Not a problem mate. What are your thoughts as to the outcome of this tight race between Sh. Adan Madoobe and Sharif Xasan? It seems A. Madoobe has got quiet a challenge ahead of him. And I am sure some on this forum will be disappointed Jinni Boqor didnt make a better show of it. Wishful thinking on their part I'm sure.

Kuligooda, Allah ha u wada naxaariisto.

Wararkii ugu dambeeyey ee doorashada guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka Nairobi - 15.September.2004 Shariif Xasan Maxamed---------119 cod Shiikh Aadan Madoobe-----------98 cod Maxamed Cabdi Yuusuf----------12 cod Shariif Saalax--------------------9 cod Sekeriye Xaaji Maxamed----------6 cod Jinni Boqor-----------------------4 cod Waxaa iminka socda wareeggii labaad ee tartanka doorashada guddoomiyaha baarlamanka oo sida muuqata ay isku soo hari doonaan Shariif Xasan Maxamed iyo Shiikh Aadan Madoobe. Wararka natiijada codbixinta xildhibaannadana waa ay isa soo tarayaan. SBC Online.net

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Hopefully the demographics will be a bit more equal. What, prêt ell, is that suppose to mean? When democracy speaks, I suggest you listen....

It seems only fitting that the V.P. makes this historic visit to Sool for the ceremonial groundbreaking of the first University in the region, as well as the opening of a temporary facility which the current post-secondary students may utilize. Good timing on Mr. Xaashi's part, a good trait for a future President to have

It seems Reer Puntland have taken up the challenge of becoming the educational centre of our belov'd nation. Let us hope, there will one day be a place available for every child in the educational system of Somalia. Amiin. And congrats to the Buuhoodle community in particular.

Samurai, It is good to see that the people, as well as government, of Puntland are committed to the improvement of our Justices and Justice System. Let us hope these sorts of training seminars lead to furtherance of both.

It seems Al Khaleej is ahead of the curve on this, perhaps they know something we dont...I would also like to congratulation the new President of Somalia, H.E. A. Yusuf

For once, I am in agreement with HA. Originally posted by ASAD_ALLE: If u wanna talk clans, my subclan is the majority in Sanaag, and Sool its disputable who is the majority Sadly, you are only deluding yourself. And go easy on the rhetoric.

These are the classic actions of occupiers. They will only succeed in turning the native inhabitants of every town and village against them. Ilaahi ha u naxaaristo. Maleeshiyada Xildhibaan Bare Hiiraale oo labo nin oo reer Miyi ah ku dilay Buulo Xaaji Muqdisho:- Wararka naga soo gaaray magaalada Kismaayo ayaa sheegaya in deegaankaasi weli ka socdaan xiisadaha colaadeed, ayadoo hada la soo xaqiijiyey in ciidamo uu wato Col. Bare Hiiraale ay dileen labo nin oo rayid ah. Labadan nin oo u dhashay [Reer Nugaal] dega gobalka Jubbada Hoose ayaa la sheegay in ay toogteen maleeshiyada Xildhibaan Bare Hiiraale oo shalay gaaray deegaanka Buulo Xaaji oo 74km u jira magaalada Kismaayo dhankeeda Koonfureed. http://www.horseednet.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2291&POSTNUKESID=45afe91f6f0ad3e9be085ab37bac4c7d Maxamed Cabdi HorseedNet.com Muqdisho, Somaliya

Good news indeed. I very much agree with the above posters, it does make more practical sense to have a single extensive and networked post-secondary institution; where the sharing of resources is better facilitated and the costs more widely distributed. But let us not lose hope, this is early days yet!

Samurai, Indeed, the BBC Somali service has lacked quality as well as its position of neutrality(for obvious reasons) in recent years. I have had to make due with the SBC or RG for news from the the old country. As well, the opening guiter solo was a nice touch.

MashaAllah. It is indeed very good to see Somalis investing in their homeland. And in particular, I must congratulate our brothers/sister in the NorthEast. Keep it up! LST, Thanks for the link. I noticed that the website was designed by 'Somalia Online', well done to all those involved in this endevour. My only suggestion would be a bit more information about specific photos. Samurai, It's good to see you back. I hope all is well. Very insightful historical information on this photos. Now, if you could provide as much on the others.... . Sophist, I hope all is well with you as well. I am very much looking forward to your photos and account of your travels. Take care. OG, This would my future home. I wonder who is the current occupant...

Gen. Morgan oo beeniyey in ay dhaceen wax dagaalo ah iyo Sarkaal kamid ah Dooxada Juuba oo sheegay in ciidamada... September 10, 2004 - 02:38 PM Muqdisho:- Waxaa noo suurto gashay inaan khadka taleefonka kula hadalno Gen. Maxamed Siciid Xirsi Morgan kana wareysano wararka sheegaya in uu dagaal maanta dhacay. Gen. Morgan oo daqiiqado kooban Wariyaha HorseedNet ee Muqdisho kula hadlay khadka sateliteka ayaa sheegay in aysan maanta dhicin wax dagaal ah oo weyn. Jenanka ayaa sheegay in ay ku sugan yihiin goobahoodii isla markaana ay iska difaaci doonaan wixii ku soo xadguba. Jenanka ayaa intaa ku daray in ay la socdaal dagaal kusoo wajahan oo uga imaanaya dhanka Kismaayo, asagoo ka gaabsaday inuu sheego goorta uu dagaalkaasi dhici doono. Dhanka kale sarkaal kamid ah Ciidamada Dooxada Jubba oo aan khadka fooniyaha magaalada Kismaayo kala xariirnay ayaa sheegay in aysan jirin wax dagaal ah oo maanta dhacay balse ay jiraan shilal ka dhacay jidka Kismaayo ka baxa ee dhanka Muqdisho balse aysan wax lug ah ku laheyn dagaal. Sarkaalkan oo ka gaabsaday in magaciisa la shaaciyo ayaa saadaaliyey in dagaal dhexmara Gen. Morgan iyo Garabkooda ay tahay mid hubaal ah asagoo markaa carabka ku dhuftay in ay ciidamadooda u dhaqaaqeen dhanka magaalada Buulo Xaaji. Sarkaalkan ayaa sheegay in ay labada ciidan caawa isku horfadhiyaan Buulo Xaaji oo 74km dhanka koonfureed uga beegan magaalada Kismaayo. Dhanka kale warar madax banaan oo aanu ka helnay qaar kamid ah ganacsatada Kismaayo ayaa sheegay in magaalada Kismaayo ay ka muuqato fawdo ayadoo ay jiraan dhac ka socda magaalada iyo amaan xumo. Wararkan ayaa intaa ku daraya in la filayo in wakhti dhow uu dagaal ka dhaco goobta loo yaqaan Buulo Xaaji isla markaana, ayagoo intaa ku daray in Col. Bare Hiiraale iyo saraakiisha Dooxada Jubba ay caawa ku maqan yihiin deegaankaasi. Xubnahan ayaa sheegay in ay jiraan iska horimaadyo ka dhacay dhanka Waqooyi ee magaalada kuwaas oo dhex maray tikniko kasoo baxday magaalada Muqdisho iyo maleeshiyooyinka deegaanka Jilib oo halkaa iska horimaad yar uu ku dhexmaray, iska horimaadkan ayaa la sheegay inuu ka dhashay 6 dhaawac ah oo labo kamid ah dhaawacooda culus yahay. Isku soo duuboo waxaa la saadaalinayaa in dagaal dhex mara labada ciidan ee kala hogaaminayaan Gen. Morgan iyo Col. Bare Hiiraale uu soo dhawaaday ayadoo ay labada ciidan caawa is hor fadhiyaan. Wixii war ah oo soo kordha gadaal ayaan idiinka Soo gudbin doonaa haduu Alle Idmo Maxamed Cabdi HorseedNet.com Muqdisho, Somaaliya

Dagaal ka dhacay Duleedka Kismaayo iyo wararkii ugu danbeeyey Friday, September 10, 2004 - 11:22 AM Dagaal galabta ka dhacay Duleedka magaalada Kismaayo iyo dhaawac la keenay Isbitaalka Kismaayo (Wararkii ugu danbeeyey) Muqdisho:- Warar deg deg ah oo naga soo gaaraya magaalada Kismaayo ayaa sheegaya in dagaal culus uu galabta ka dhacay duleedka magaalada Kismaayo, dagaalkan oo ay isaga horyimaadeen Gen. Morgan iyo Col. Bare Hiiraale. Dagaalkan ayaa lagu soo waramayaa inuu ka dhacay Jidka u dhaxeeya Buulo Xaaji iyo Kismaayo goobtaasi oo la sheegay in dagaalkan uu khasaaro dhimasho iyo dhaawacba ah ka yimaadeen. Mar aan khadka Isgaarsiinta Satelite Phoneka kula xariirnay saraakiil kamid ah ciidamda Gen. Morgan ayaa ka gaabsaday in ay wax faah faahin ah bixiyaan. Hasayeeshee wararka aanu ka helayno magaalada Kismaayo ayaa sheegay in ay labada ciidan si kadis ah isaga horyimaadeen Jidka u dhaxeeya Buulo Xaaji iyo Kismaayo. Dagaalkan ayaa la sheegayaa in uu qaaday Col. Bare Hiiraale oo maanta soo gaaray magaalada Kismaayo. Col. Bare Hiiraale oo wata ciidamo lagu qiyaasay 500 ayaa galabta uga baxay Magaalada Kismaayo dhanka Airporka oo la sheegay in lagu arkay sahanka ciidamada Gen. Morgan. Wararka ugu danbeeyey oo kasoo baxaya Kismaayo ayaa sheegaya in ciidamada Col. Bare Hiiraale ay dib ugu soo noqdeen magaalada. Ciidamadan ayaa keenay dhaawac la sheegay in uu ka yimid goobta dagaalka, waxaana sidoo kale ay ciidamadan wateen labo gaari oo tikniko ah oo burbur kasoo gaaray dagaalada. Wararka ayaa intaa ku daraya in ciidamada Gen. Morgan ay gacanta ku dhigeen 3 gaari oo ah nooca tiknikada ah oo ay lahaayeen ciidamada Dooxada Jubba. Ciidamada Morgan ayaa lagu soo waramayaa in ay kusoo durkeen magaalada ayna ku sugan yihiin meel u dhow Airporka Diyaaradaha ee magaalada Kismaayo. Wixii war ah oo soo kordha gadaal ayaan idiinka soo gudbin doonaan Haduu Alle Idmo Maxamed Cabdi HorseedNet.com Muqdisho, Somaliya

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I gathered that a long time ago, but what I find baffling is how you can support Abdulahi Yusuf, if it's not because of clan? What's your connection to him? I support neither A. Yusuf nor Morgan(on clan reasons or otherwise). My support lies fully in the SNRC in nairobi and any government/leader chosen by the new parliament. I believe the best outcome of this conference would be if Addow becomes President. He will be a more palatable leader to the militias and warlords of central and southern Somalia. Let us not forgot, these militias are the SOLE obstacles to a peaceful and prosperous Somalia. And in the end, is that not the hope of all Somalis and the goal of this conference? An interesting side note:: In a recent SBC poll of Bosaso residents, Addow came out ahead of A. Yusuf, as the best person to lead Somalia.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: SanaagNomad ma kuu qoslaa? The real inhabitants of Bari, of which Jaamac Cali Jaamac is member of, aren't as joyous as the bililiqsi of their natural resouces as you are. How amusing, Mr. Abudwaaq talking as if he has an iota of knowledge of this, the largest of all Somali regions. Bari is a region, not a clan. There are many diverse groups that live there and ALL are reer bari This region and Sanaag are one and the same, and their peoples have a shared history and live on BOTH sides of the imaginary line drawn by foreigners. :cool: Although, I get the feeling this is just a way to decipher my lineage . Let me give you a clue...it's not the one that includes personalities such as JCJ, A. Yusuf or Morgan

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I'm not! It must be those businessmen who are fishing off illegally on the coast of Bari. Yes, that must be it. Lucky for you, there isn't anything woth stealing in Abud-waaq or Gedo. MD, Alhamdulillah, I am doing very well. I was suppose to have gone this summer but things did not work out. Insha'Allah, I will be crisscrossing Northern Somalia next spring(May) with my camcorder(to the amusement of locals no doubt) . Hope to see you there.