What did I do here, double posted it with rage?

^^From General Tribalism, With regards to the President, your views are indeed irrelevent, he is recognised the world over and has the support of the majority of the down troden and poor Somali masses. What world are you talking about, the ethiopian world? That is right, and I agree in that front, but don't mistake that with the recognition that matters most: domestic support and recognition, which he obviously lacks. Your unfair attacks on his person is ude, not to Ethiopia, or secularisam but because he hails from the clan of the North East, same reason the author of that article attcaks him. Facts could come across sometimes as attacks, and I understand that, but I am sorry to say, that man is an enemy to our country, in my humble views. The president stands for law and order, security and the return of our soverignty. And I think the opposite. The stood for division, tribalism, traitorship, and destruction. Now, he stands for nepotism, hatred, anti-Islam, Ethiopia, and the complete submission to our enemies. You on the other hand allude to be a follower of the noble faith, yet condone the actions of your clan. You highlight what is wrong with others while ignoring the actions of your own. First of all, you don't know my clan, I know you just like to pretend you knew it, but it was clear from the begining that I lean to no tribe but for the truth. Does my truth resemble the rhetoric of certain tribes, I wonder! Awoowe, you really need help here. Ubahane you support Xasan Dahir, who in turn empowers Inda Cade who in turn occupies and rapes the land of fellow Muslim, you call President Yusuf a warlord while calling Xasan Dahir a Shiek, if it is not due to clan what is it? Yes, I support him as long he stays on the path for the truth, and for your info, my mind is subject to change as he wears away from those islamic values he stood for.Your uncle is a criminal, the only way out for his criminality is to repent to the Almighty Allah for his grave sins of killing innocents in your respective town of Garoowe, and all over puntland region. It hurts, I know, but believe me, you yourself is more bad by defending his apparent crimes than him who arrogantly confesses in public arenas as the starter of all these problems in Somalia.

^^You always circle around the unverifiable allegations of Indha-cadde. This guy you call indha-cadde is not in the political playfield over three years, I think. And you idiotically magnify his wrongdoings over the known criminal A/Y for thirty years of perpetual gross national violations in our country. That of which you skip over him and pursue other minor figures makes me understand your mistakable sound of tribalism. You never decieve me with your nepotism, awoowe, cause I know you enough. Even, I am mature enough to know the tricks of your ailing uncle!

Originally posted by General Duke: This article is another example of clan mad individuals, this man is also against the Puntland troops, was in support of the warlords only yesterday. Ubahane you can oppose all you like, the agenda is one based on all clans being disarmed and freedom to the Somali people. Your view is irrelevent with regards to the President of Somalia. Even these courts will be a thing of the past when a ntional armed forces are formed and equiped. The only proble has been this embargo, and that is to do with the Americans, who's warlords, your warlords Mr Ubahane have failed.. I have no warlord, I only got a principle and I proudly follow it to wherever it takes me. That is the Quran. Now, are you trying to force me accept the criminal warlord Abdullahi Yuusuf when you indeed know he doesn't represent any of the somali people in will and in spirit? By the way, if my views are irrelevent, then whose views are relevent at this point? You come to believe the only person that could get the somali issues right must be your ailing uncle! That doesn't only make your current views irrelevent, but also the future ones as well. You know what... I am glad that you are a very marginal point of view in this whole issue of somali politics.

So, I am the deaf and the blind? At least I am not lost in the details as you did, but I can tell you are on the spectrum of bringing ethiopian troops to Somalia. Mise waa beenteey?

^I guess you embody hypocracy, too. Why can't you be yourself instead of taunting the same rants of your ailing uncle in Baydhabo? Man! you are very two-faced when it comes to contributing to this section of SOL.

^I saw that article on hobyonet.com. But I think its normal for Abdullahi Yusuf to believe what he believes about Ethiopians setting the agenda for him. The guy is completely out of his mind and never dares to question the infringements of Addis Ababa to our internal affairs! I don't think he is my president, he was a former president for the deposed warlords of Mogadishu. Not mine, for sure!

Originally posted by General Duke: They wasted 15 months. Thats the main point here. Lets hope, and pray they do not throw chairs around. I know you are a deadly tribalist, but do you wish foriegn troops just for Mogadishu, or even Puntland as well? We'll see how serious you get to this simple question..

^^what are you insinuating here? Ethiopians are an apparent enemy to Somalia, period.

^^Lies are sometimes the means to earn for the puntivity of hellfire, you should know that at least, Mr. Tribalist!

^^Ilaahow aadan hoogin aduun iyo aakhiro! I love you because of the truth. Always side with it, for Allah will side with us in the Day of judgement, insha-Allah. Stinking Ethiopians will learn more from us as we emerge from the ruins of tribalism. I hope that task will bring our generations on the verge of Janno by defending our Diin and Dal against that ruthless enemy.

Originally posted by General Duke: Xoogsade,much like Alle Ubahane, resorts to the argument of the clan when addressing my perosn. It is to be expected since they supported and still support the factions in Mogadishu and oppose the government because of the clan. I remember Xoogsade arguing on behalf of the warlord effort when Shafif Xasan was their tool, I was taunted then as I am now. I still do not see how this will end well? The courts with Yusuf Inda CADE as their guide will never get any moral high ground. This government has been hampered by the warlords and their cheerledres, including emotionally suspect fellows like Xoogsade, Alle Ubahane. Rememebr Sharif Xasan wasted a whole year, opposed eveything, from peace keepers to the formation of national troops. Today he is happy to do what was logical a year ago. Where are the clan fighters who supported Qaynare. They have not gone away at all. Today they are supporting their clan in the guise of a court. So Xoogsade, your clanist views with regards to me on Mogadishu are nothing more than the echoes of Musa Sudi, Bashir Raage and Co. Who when faced with difficulty resort to insulting a certain clan.. I am not suprised that you are a tribalist, but I am shocked at your behavior against the Islamic religion and its rise against the warlords! War ma sidaan baad naf mooday, magacaa jirye?

Originally posted by General Duke: A remarkable man, his actions are unlike the usual.. Sheekh Shariif "waxaa la gaarey xiligii aan iscasili lahaa" Nairobi- 07.June.2006 Gudoomiyaha Midowga Maxaakimta Islaamiga ee magaalada Muqdisho Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed ayaa daboolka ka qaadey in uu ka fakarayo sidii uu isaga casili lahaa xilka uu hayo ka gadaal markii waa sida hadalka uu u dhigay'e ay gaareen maxkamaduhu guulo la taaban karo oo ay ka gaareen dagaaladii ay la galeen maleeshiyaadka Isbahaysiga la dagaalanka argagixisada oo ay ku mideysan yihiin qabqablayaasha dagaalka. Shariif Sheekh oo u waramayey Wargeyska Asharqalawsat ee ka soo baxa magaalada London ayaa tilmaamey in sababah uu u qorsheeyey in uu xilka ka dego ay tahay ay tahay isagoo doonaya in uu fursad siiyo dadka la midka ah ee shaqadan ka bixi kara. Sheekh Shariif wuxuu la yaab ku tilmaamey tabardarada ka muuqata hogaamiye kooxeedyada, isago sheegay inay aheyd mucjiso guushii ay ka gaareen dagaaladii ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho isagoo tilmaamey in la gaarey xiligii guusha. Wareysigan ayuu Sheekh Shariif wuxuu tibaaxay in uu si weyn uga walaacsan yahay fargalinta Mareykanka ee ku aadan arimaha Soomaaliya, isagoo iswaydiiyey cidda xaq u siisay Mareykanka inay garsoore ama macalin ay u noqoto Caalamka, "Mareykanku sidaa sameeya iyo sidaa ka fogaada ayuu dadka ku leeyahay" ayuu yiri Sheekh Shariif. Sheekh Shariif wuxuu sheegay in uu filayo duulaan uu ku soo qaadayo Mareykanku iyo in dalal kale loo adeegsado weeraradaas, wuxuuna si kulul uu u cambaareeyay hadal ka soo yeeray Afhayeenka wasaaradda arimaha dibadda Mareykanka oo ka sheekaynayey cabsida Washington ay ka muujineyso xaaladda cusub ee Muqdisho ay lugta la gashay inay fududeyso in hoy ay u noqoto firxadka Al-Qaacida, waxaana uu yiri “ Maxaakimta ma taageerayaan argagaxisada, mana ogolaanayaanâ€. Keyse Caamir This whole news is utterly bogus. A tribalist like General Duke would dare to post everything anti-Islamic Courts to stire confussion! Ilaahey baan ka magan-galnay shartaada!

Originally posted by General Duke: Muq/Bay: Maxkamadaha oo u Jihaystay Dhinaca Baydhabo iyo... Isniin, June 12, 2006 APL Tool Send This Article To A Friend By Email | Saaxiibkaa warkaan ugu *** Email -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Print This Article | Daabaco warkaan Dagaal (AllPuntland)- Warar goor dhawayd naga soo gaaray magaalooyinka Baydhabo iyo Muqdisho ayaa xaqiijinaya in ciidamo ka tirsan kuwa Maxkamadaha islaamiga ah oo ka kala yimid Muqdisho iyo gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose oo uu ka taliyo Yusuf Indhocade aysoo gaareen garoonka diyaaradaha ee Balidoogle una soo gudbeen dhinaca magaaalada Baydhabo. Ciidankaan oo wata ku dhawaad 30 gawaarida dagaalka (Tikniko) ayaa lagusoo waramayaa inuu garwadeen u yahay sargaal ka tirsan maxkamadaha, Mukhtaar Roobow oo ku magac dheer Mansuur oo kasoo jeeda deegaanka Bay iyo Bakool ayaa hogaaminaya ciidankaan oo u badan kuwo hoos taga Xasan Daahir Aways iyo Yuusuf Indho-Cade. Ciidankan ayaa warar kala duwani kasoo baxayaan halka ay caawa ku sugan yihiin, war aan wali la xaqiijin ayaa sheegaya inaysoo gaareen Buur Hakaba. Ciidankan ayaa laga dareemay dhaqdhaqaaq loogu diyaargaroobayo iska difaacidooda magaalada Baydhabo oo la sheegay inay kusoo wajahan yihiin., ciidamada dawlada federaalka ee ku sugan Baydhabo ayaa heegankii ugu dambeeyay caawa la galiyay. Dhaqdhaqaaqa ciidan ee ka curtay deegaanka Bay iyo Bakool ayaa kusoo beegmay iyadoo maalinta barito ah uu baarlamaanka Soomaaliya u balan sanyahay kulan xaasxaasiya oo baarlamanku uga doodayo go'aan ka gaarista qorshaha amniga qaranka oo uu ku jiro qorshaha dawlada federaalku ku doonayso in ciidamo shisheeye dalka la keeno. Big time tribalist in action!

Originally posted by Baashi: Perfect. Doodu haday xubin la qabto leedahay. Awoowe waqtigu waa igu yaryahay oo 15 minidh baa ka hadhay kolkaan caraabi jiray. Bal aan soo dhaweeyo hawsha oo aan ku koobo "E-factor" ee bal golaha u sheeg waxa aad ka qabto qodobka ah: 1. Ethiopia gacan iyo addinba waxay kula jidhaa arimaha murugsan ee Soomaaliya. Kuwa hada la jabiyay iyo dagaalka ay oogeen gacn bay ku lahayd. Haatana dib in ay ka soo habeyso oo inta hubayso oo dib u soo abaabusho yay u badan tahay. 2. Ma waxaad leedahay mowqifka is beddelay iyo ragga hada majaraha u haya Maxkamadaha aawadood bay uga gaabsanaysaa oo taageero hiil iyo hooba ah siin meyso dagaal-oogayaasha? Bi'ithnilaah berritoole ubaxnimada baan soo laaban doonaa. Horta qodobka hore, wax weyn baa ka qaldan. Bal aan isku dayo inaan saxo. Sidaan ognahay dagaalka sidiisaba wadan ma wadi koro. Dagaalka waxaa wada oo sii huriya shacabka. Sidaan ognahay nimanka inkaartu ku dhacday ee Xamar laga eryay waxay ahaayeen niman toll-la'aani ay ku dhacday. Waloow ay heysan lahaayeen rag u dagaalama, waxaan kula qabi lahaa fakarka aad maanta heysato. Shacabka sidiisaba dagaalka wuxuu ku kordhiyaa dhiirigalin, qaaraan, kuwa markeey dhintaan in rag cusub oo caaboon lagu badalo, kuwa markeey dhaawacmaan jiil hor leh in lasoo kiciyo. Laakiin Nimanka haatan Xamar laga saaray waxaa isku helay shacab la'aan iyo dhalinyaradii u dagaalameysay oo markeey dhaawac iyo qasaaro badan la kulmeen wax gurmad ah waayey. Qodobka labaad hadaan usoo jeesto, asna waxaad moodaa in xoogaa ustuuko farabadan ay ka maqan tahay. Bal isna aan kugu caawiyo sidaan u xardho-xardheyn laheyn, lol. Ugaas Baashiyow, aloow aadan bogga u dhimane, waxaa jirta oraah dadka AF-Maayga ku hadlaa ay yiraahdaan: Af waakanee, mey liki aamee . Marka arinta haatan waxay taagan tahay halkaas. Ethiopia waa u jeedaa in dharbaaxo culus ay ku dhacday raggii ay usoo waakilatay barnaamijyada qaska iyo fowdada Soomaaliya. Kaliyah maanta waxaa u banaan iney dagaalka si toos ah usoo gasho. Sababtoo ah raggii shalay u dagaalami lahaa waa kuwaas dadkoodii deyrada ka ah, oo noqday haad geed waayay. Bal aan is dareen siino, waxa dhici kara hadiiba ay ethiopia dagaalka soo gasho, oo ah runtii arin suurtoowi karta. Aniga caqligeyga daciifka ah wuxuu i tusay in maalintaas ey soomaali gabi'ahaanteedba meel walba oo ay joogto midnimadeeda ay dagdag kusoo laabaneyso. Sababtoo ah waxaa meesha ka baxaya is cadowsigii ay dadku dhexdooda is cadowsan jiraan. Waxaana markaas qof walbaa ka dageysa in cadowgeena # 1 uu yahay gaalka maddoow ee amxaarka ah. Su'aasha aan jeclahay inaan hadaba kugu soo tuuro waxay tahay, maalinkaas diyaar ma tahay, mise waxaad kusii oran doontaa: War naga daaya Ethiopia maanta iskama dhicin karnee, maalin kale hanoo ahaato... ama Qidad kale noo raadiya oo aan dagaal aheyn oo aan iskaga dhicino ethiopia .

Awoowe, horta hadalkaagu ma xumeyn, laakiin xoogaa waxaan ka dhadhansaday inaad nagu xuuxisay Ethiopia iyo wixii ay wateen oo aad ku sheegtay, markii loo laabto aragtidaada taariikhdii dhaweyd, iney soo laba kacleyn karaan, arintuna halkaas kasii dhabqi karto. Waa halkaas meesha aan dulucda hadalkaaga ka qabsaday. Waxaan arkaa inaad waliba iska indho tirtay waaqaca maanta jira iyo boqol-jibaar ka duwan yahay kuwii hore ee lasoo maray, ama aan uwada joogay natiijooyinkey ku soo afjarmeen. Marka uu qofku wax cabirayo waxaa lama huraan ah in dhowr arimood la is barbardhigo. Waxayna noqon karaan marxalada lagu jiro Vs. Kuwii hore, dadka/hogaanka jooga Vs. Kuwii hore, dareenka shacabka Vs. Danta maqaawiirta, Casharadii lasoo maray iyo cibaarooyinka laga qaatay. Intaas oo kuwa kale oo si fiican loo turxaan bixiyay waxay sugi karaan in go'aan raafaf balaaran laga qaato, kaasoo suurta galin karin in ififaalaha soo socda aragti fiican looga qalin daarto. Hadaba, awoowe, inaad sidbatid aniga ilama xuma, laakiin waxaa daran adoo sidbaday inaan kugu fiirsano. Qatifkaagana ha u arag wax weyn, sababtoo ah madashu kama salmarna xaadirtanka rag culaab iyo mug intaba u saaxiib ah, marka le eego fakarkooda. ..intaas waxaa ii dheer, dood kale oo midaan la halmaasha, waa hadaad heysid waqti iyo kaadsiimo.

Originally posted by Baashi: Qasaaro fowqal qasaaro Awoowe if you have specific objections which Waxa-la-Yiri haven't addressed raise it please. Our talking-head figures and Somali conflict experts, the best spinners one can find out there (for free mind you), will weigh in. This is all we do buddy and we do it pretty well and with style and class. FYI it is a matter of principle in this business to gather (subjectively) all the rumors, internet xaafado renditions on political events, white-noises inside and outside biibitooyinka , dizzying convo around the dark and smoke filled marfishs , and war-iyo-wacaale that come through the long distance calls. You would think it is that simple. Nop! The process is very complicated. After tedious content collection, we filter the junk through one helluva bug screen (clan blind ) called band pass in some circles. We then use our state of the art optical instruments (color blind) to look through the final product. Our journalism is "another day, another principle" kind of khabar . We are the only journalists that pride themselves letting their emotional restraint relaxed. We called as "we" see it from a distance thousand miles away from ground zero. We look the evnts as they happen and we don't give all sides equal and fair audience to their side of the story. We see things from one-dimentional platform. It is less taxing and very economical way of running a business. Now you have been informed of how things go around here we expect you to declare your allegiance to this "noble" organization. You are one of us Mr. Qasaaro. You are not getting paid with all your hardwork. What Waxa-la-Yiri organization is asking of you is simple. Formally join this media mogul or else we will consider suing your behind The only way out of this spider hole you have dug for your sorry behind is to join eNuri establishment and develop the sophistication, pious character, and ability to reason and swallow your pride so you can be in a position to call a spade a spade Now back to the subject at hand. What you are asking is clarity, we think. Very well! we'll try our best my friend. The point we're making here is not about glorifying the powers that are determined to keep Somalia a barn where they confront the shadowy enemies they think are marching toward their neck of the wood. Noooow awoowe. The point is the existence of policies in distance capitals that literally kept the fire of warlords fueled. That's all. E-factor is a factor in Somali politics. You disagree? Be my guest! We root for Islamic courts despite their shortcomings. We think the alternative is unacceptable. We also think the courts have a humongous room for improvement. We have our reasons. Do you want to explore "why" we hold these views or you just want to dish out well ya know what I'm talking about. The shaah is on me sxb. Awoowe, aan waxwalba ka doodno ama aan isku khilaafno, laakiin marnaba ma haboona iney meesha soo gasho gorgortan dhanka mowqifka ah iyo meeshii aan ka istaagi laheyn haduuba cadow shisheeye soo fariisto kaabiga Aqalkeena Hooyo, Soomaaliya. Arinta Xamar ka taagan hadeey Boosaaso ama Hargeyso ka dhici laheyd, runtii waxaan ka taagnaan lahaa mowqifka aan haatan istaagsanahay, waana taas waxa laga doonayo muwaadin kasta oo u dhashay Beesha Soomaaliyeed. Hadaba waxaa iga talo ah, awoowe, howshaan qunsax-balaadka (E-Factor) ah ee aad igu marti qaaday yeeysan naga duuflaalin hadafkii naga dhexeeyay oo ahaa inaan dalkeena iyo dadkeena difaacno. Sidaas ayuu ku taliyay Qasaaro, oo ah oday qasaaro iyo faa'iido intaba usoo joogay noloshiisa. Doodana ha socoto.... Caaqilka Hurdo-ku-dirirka ahow.

the above article is written by a man known of his infidelistic hatred for not only Muslims, but also Black Americans. As Somalis, what do we expect today from the West, other than plain uncovered hatred and animosity towards our little gains over the criminal warlords who were for so long in our midst!

^^Tell me how and what propelled him to start his unacceptable mission now? Abdullahi Yuusuf is not only gone from the political scene in terms of our senses, but also in the eyes of (the enemy~Ethiopia) his friends.

^^I am sure its hard for you to admit the bravery of your brothers, when at ease you cowardly applaud for the enemy's blow to the Muslims. What type of Muslim are you, except a plain Hypo..! :mad:

^^I am sure its hard for you to admit the bravery of your brothers, when at ease you cowardly applaud for the enemy's blow to the Muslims. What type of Muslim are you, except a plain Hypo..! :mad:

A tribalist of that sort would never come to terms to distingiush the thin lines between the Islamic Courts and the people who are not posing threats but soon to be uprooted by the glorious mission of the Islamic Revolution. In my understanding, tribalists are deaf, blind and sometimes dead in the brain. The best way to approach them is to show the level of their tribalist impulses.

^^Come back, adeer, with a modified veiwpoint that may be compatible to the realities in Muqdisho. Xamaal-wanaagsan Awoowe.

General Duke, the news you are reading now is an examplery move for your ailing uncle in Baydhabo. Only if he could resign after his apparent inablity to make a breakthrough in the political deadlock our country is faced. It was in his inagurational speech that he would resign if he couldn't bring about any results in his post as the president of the country. Too bad, indeed. You have one thing in common with your uncle, that you never resign from your rubbish propoganda against Muqdisho, as it is the same with your uncle of not resigning from his failed mission.

Does this topic, however, belong to the political section, or those trees are supposed to support President Yuusuf next time he comes to Puntland? You guys are crazy, indeed.