^^ Maxaa ku cunaya adigana? Got a better description for the person who posted this? Its alarming how some people have deluded themselves into thinking they have monopoly over everything concerning the word “Arabâ€. p.s. I still live there .

Dont despair Credit, I'm here. "Zool" or "ya zool" is the arabic version of nigger. Its what light skinned arabs call dark skinned ones. I dont know where the term originated or how it came to have that meaning... but when I lived in carabta, it was outright racist to refer to some1 so. p.s. "zool" as a term just means "hey u" or "hey guy"... but its assumed that racist meaning now.

Modesty, dont loose hope. You always find them when ur not looking. Credit, Call me overly-analytical or just plain old paranoid...but I cant help spotting a tint of self-advertisement in most of ur posts. Anyways, whats with the... |don't have high standards| |most girls are looking for is the perfect package, a man who embodies all of their dreams, a dude who is handsome, educated, tender but yet aggressive and ofcourse has some nice whips. Now in the real world that is as impossible..| Stop undermining the Somali man... I'm sure the right packages are out there... ..... please God let them be out there....

Bad-credit, xishoo. This is a G-rated site. :mad: Femme, learn something from you?...

Tolstoy, didn’t know you had a sense of humour too . You always bring a smile to my face. Thank you. Watch me use and abuse that line here. But what if they call me your tail then?

Hayaaaaaay!! Dhinac kasta waa la ii soo dhigtey maanta. My town is evil too...among other things. *sobs pathetically*. Its tough being me. Afro... whateva.

Do you care or dont you? No point wasting my breath if u dont... innit?

^^ I'm not married. But I probably will once I am. 'Tis the Somali way.

UnderDog, Who exactly do you know here to be "non practicing muslim woman"? Who are you trying to prevent from having a discussion? Is there a difference to you between a discussion and a representation? Lets get clear cuz you make me sick with your assumptions and insinuations. The core matter is the qualifications needed to speak on behalf of something you don't practice. Who are you referring to? Who on this thread do you know to lack the "qualification". From the start of this discussion, you have argued from the assumed premise that Phanta and then I dont have the right qualification to speak on the subjects at hand. Otherwisse who are you talking to? Dont insult our intelligence. I take offences against my blf very seriously. Let me enlighten you brother, for you simply lack either the knowledge or the ettiquette of a proper muslim. Allah, the Exalted, says: "And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear on themselves the crime of slander and plain sin.'' (33:58) 1560. Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "When any Muslim accuses another Muslim of sin or of disbelief, the reproach rebounds upon the one who utters it, if the other person is not deserving of it.'' [Al-Bukhari]. Commentary: What this Hadith stresses is that one should never say about a Muslim that he is sinful (Fasiq) or disbeliever (Kafir) when he is not so. The reason is that in that case, one who says it, will be held Fasiq or Kafir. One should, therefore, strictly refrain from uttering such statements. 1561. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When two persons indulge in abusing each other, the beginner will be the sinner so long as the oppressed does not transgress the limits.'' [Muslim]. Commentary: This Hadith tells us that if a Muslim abuses another and says unfair things about him and in return the recipient also abuses him and says unfair things to the same extent, then the entire burden of sin of abusing would lie with the person who initiated the quarrel. But if the one who is wronged, exceeds the limits in revenge, then he will also be guilty to the degree of his excess. Thus, this Hadith shows that although revenge is permissible in Islam, it is better to forgive and bear the excess with patience. The reason behind this is that in revenge, one usually exceeds the limits and becomes an aggressor. Allah says: "And verily, whosoever shows patience and forgives, that would truly be from the things recommended by Allah.'' (42:43). I hope you reflect on the above and stop accusing and undermining the sisters constantly by insinuating things you dont know. I find your approach offensive most of the time but even more so when you try and question the beleifs of those you dont know for the simple reason you dont agree with them. I'm goin to take leave of this thread. I feel like I'm doing myself injustice by indulging you further. [edit]Rayaana, seeing as it is sis, maybe we should. I dont mind if this is what all the girls want. I was only asking if there was a real valid reason. But I think we just figured that out.

I do. And its racist term. Whats FAO?

Waw indeed :eek: . Beautiful. Must visit Somalia/land soon.

LOL@Zool. Racist!

*Must….resist….urge…to…loose temper…. * UD, You’re contradicting yourself beyond belief. On one note, the truth is the truth regardless of the source... If an alcoholic murderer tells you to pray 5 times a day, does it give his message any less meaning And another But do you disagree that a non-practising (not implying you) Islamic woman should not attempt to discuss matter relating to Feminism and the Islamic woman? So you’re saying that a non-practising muslim woman ( try not to come back at me personally with another deplorable all time low response assuming things about me, this is your term, not mine) has no right to discuss issues relating to the Islamic women? Your argument is clearly weak and illogical whichever way you look at it. For discussions are means to gain understanding. On this board, you don’t know who prays and who doesn’t and you equally have no right questioning people on the subject. Please stop trying to manipulate the words of others to make yourself look and feel better. That really is unislamic and grossly repulsive. What also is very UnIslamic is people who have the least understanding of the religion trying and taking that holier-than-thou attitude with the rest just to force their twisted take.

Originally posted by Femme Fatale: I also appreciate that they are honest enough to admit that they are married---it gives us homebreakers a fair warning to keep our claws to ourselves! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: That sounds very wrong Femme. I didnt perceive u as the homebreaker type.... hmmmm.... it all makes sense now.

This article lacks any semblance of sensibility or sanity. Seems like the ranting of a mad-lunatic deluded by unfounded and personal anger. I wouldn’t even dignify this with a response. This crap belongs in the bin. [Edit] This is what some1 wrote in response to this in AwdalNews Provocative writers like Farah Jama who has seen himself crème de la crème but is known to be loquacious and adept at manipulating clan doctrine and pander his peers, raising this SNM issue - especially by Awdalnews, has coaxed into making him to show his true colors; a sample of how ‘RED’ Farah is can be viewed from his article on Halgennews in which he implicitly made a plea to his peers ‘Isaaqs’ to take up arms and fight against other brotherly clans in Somaliland – a despicable act and an archetypal of a distorted mind and made him an anathema to the Somaliland intellectuals. His candor with which he could have acknowledged this committed atrocity in the name of SNM could have at least write off one of his recited catalog of offenses - nonchalant attitude to the plight of other Somalilanders. His long and trite articles usually carry no commendable ideas or contribution of any good to our country but instead his writings are devoted to catering clannism rather than Somalilandism that usually recompenses his nadir cogitation about mutual understanding. You cannot ruse us so please stop eviscerating Somaliland Ditto.

Originally posted by Endeavour: I shall answer why somali women are so fat when you tell me why somali men are so skinny. Because Somali women suck the nutrients out of them. :confused:

*Pats Bad-Credit on the back*. Thank you. But I'm not radical or a feminist. If anything, I'm partial to your species. Surprised?

^^ I cant decide which is worse, the fact that she wants to discuss something like that with other women or the fact that she is vulgar?

My o My! Arent we all single people experts in marriage-matters? You can neglect your spouse for a variety of reasons if you choose to. Whether its the net or pinball is really irrelevant. I personally appreciate all the married folk here, such an insightful bunch they are. Besides, foruming is productive in a small way - much like reading a book. And just like a married person can read...they can discuss too.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Tomorrow. Bari baan kuu soo noqon. :mad: Why post such a calumny article?

My my... Arent we feeling mighty holy today? :eek: Hibo, I'm quite disappointed in you. Walahi you came across as too eager to say the right thing. I asked you to quit the sanctimonious attitude because its disrespectful to me. I dont appreciate you even remotely implying I dont know about modesty or how to conduct myself appropriate and in accordance with the diin. I take such offenses seriously as I always think its given that whatever I say, I say it within the confines of my belief. For the record, the topic was "to have or not to have a Women's exclusive section"... nothin more...nothin less. Why you would tell me about "haya" at this instance only implies one thing... Your reasons for advocating for the separate women' section remain as meaningless as they were. Honest. Diseases and hormanal imbalances are normal subjects of discussion and there is so much moanin you can go do about periods. Now on to the issue of feminism. I suggest you go and read about the different types of feminism before you jump on ur goody-two-shoes feet and make such slanderous statements. Its most frustrating having to deal with these kinda arguments due to time and opportunity. Feminists do not all think the same way or even about the same kinds of problems.There is a wide range of theories and experessions of behaviour related to feminism - cultural feminism, liberal feminism, marxist feminism, etc and Islamic feminism (which aims to be Islamic in approach and content). I would not even think of sitting here and advocating for the typical sexual-liberation inspired western feminist movement - a product of moral bankruptcy and social disintegration, so dont talk to me so. Lastly Hibo, I wont bother replying if you assume anything or take my words out of context.

^ Why? Its one of the livelier topics actually. :cool:

NGONGE, what a poem! Nice. I like the way you put ur point across…

Hibo, with all due respect sista, that was a light hearted comment. But because I’m spirited, I’ll “enlighten†you. Feminism is a broad term that is an umbrella for what generally is a woman’s movement to better their status in a patriarchal society. Yes, I want women to be equal with men – Equal but different. This old adage of women being given their rights in Islam way before the rest of the world is tedious to say the least, for the simple reason these rights are not guaranteed nor given in the Muslim world. Muslim women in this day and age are denied their rights more than ever - rights in marriage, jobs, freedom of choice, expression and so on and so forth. We can start a whole topic on this if you so please. To come to your 2nd point. I totally disagree that we have to have a women’s only accessible section. I’m already a member of a Muslim sisters only forum, and their topics are nothing short of purring about how difficult their lives are or dysfunctional their spouses and families. Why any1 would write their personal problems online to seek the advice of complete strangers – I don’t know. I can understand it’s a little comforting to talk to like minded, supposedly caring people but is this the sort of thing you were referring to? Maybe if you could highlight what topics you would consider in such a women’s only forum that cant be discussed here, I’ll sway your way . I cant think of anything I could discuss there, I cant here. And lastly, don’t take that pious tone with me. It rather comes across as a last resort to drive what clearly isn’t the subject. This isn’t even an issue of “shynessâ€. *Issues* and *problems* aren’t private subjects. They are to be discussed objectively, communicated and benefited from by all and sundry. And I for one think men should know!

Hahahaha.... hehehehe....kix kix kix. Nice Try Bad-Credit... but the meat looks raw and the cooking shabby. I may not know to cook, but I know what I wont eat. p.s. I just noticed this little dig NGONGE had at me... PS I will not tar Ms Ameenah Obseye with the same brush though. It's very obvious that she CAN cook I'll have you eat your damn words! :mad: :mad: