^ Its a bad one. Stop thinking. I have a life to live. And I owe Somalia nothing. The only thing that would make me go back would be a great business venture that can help me milk plenty of cash. ..........all laid out in roses.

Originally posted by AuxCod: P.S. Taasi sanka tagtaay, badowad europe laa keenaay bay ahayd. ii garaad inadheer, folxumo aya ii heshaay. Was this directed at me? LOL. I Cant stop laughing. Qumay.

:eek: What is wrong with u girls? Do you want eqaulity or not? :mad: You should offer to pay for it all in such circumstances. Infact, if he is not very quick to pull out the purse, pay for it immediately... show off that you're truly independent and loaded.

I don’t see why you’re all so keen to personally attack NGONGE. The article, which looking back was blasphemous, was deleted. He had a point posting it. Now he rewrote this topic to extract that main point. So why cant we discuss it? Just because the main argument was brought to our attention by the likes of Manji? Reminder: Issue: Quran desecrated in Guantanamo Bay.. Result: Protests were held in MUSLIM countries leading to MUSLIM casualties. Isnt the absurdity of such a situation obvious? If we have regimes and govt in place, unwilling to stand up for our believes, we more than deserve to be humiliated and ridiculed. Our attention and protest/demonstrations is definitely geared the wrong way. I actually find arguments such as the muslims being distributed into 73 sects and so on n so forth quite misused. Is this an excuse to be passive? To let every1 claims to be muslim and carry on as they please? Differences of opinion and interpretation can occur, but if one believes in the oneness of Allah, the veracity of the Quran, the institution of Prophethood, the certainty of the day of judgement, the angels, the jinns, and the Shaytaan, then we can all learn to respect each other and peacefully co-exist. And this is an aim that shouldn’t be deterred with such statements. Quite thought provoking piece NGONGE. A reality check indeed. We Muslims tend to either get too overly violent and aggressive or just sit and be passive about issues concerning us and the west. The ummah as I see today, is in dire need of direction – a common one. A true Islamic representation within our own borders. Islam for most part, was not spread through the sword but the message. Regarding the book, this is what a Christian woman who has read it makes of it in her blog “She offers a practical vision of how Islam can undergo a reformation that empowers women, promotes respect for religious minorities, and fosters a competition of ideas. Her vision revives "ijtihad," Islam's lost tradition of independent thinking. In that spirit, Irshad has a refreshing challenge for both Muslims and non-Muslims: Don't silence yourselves. Ask questions - out loud.†And going by nothing but that abstract, who disagrees?

Originally posted by Hibo: As for you, am sure u can hop on any u find attractive... I thought London was beaming with a herd of well educated, all that and bag of crab boys... who were to kill for.?? how come u r still single :rolleyes: Who lied to you? London is the khat capital city in this part of the world. Besides, whats the rush to get hog-tied? Plenty of time for that. Woo hoo! Aux on offer!

No. I think we should keep it. Should be winner in the SOL oscars as the most meaningless thread in the women's section. And its started by a man. Surprise!.

^boo hoo! I think you're just a little past the tantrum-throwing, reverse-psychology phase..

Originally posted by Hibo: Enchantment: The season for husband hunting has been on for a quite sometime now.. I don't know how u could have missed it Stup!d me. It only hit me when I saw the wave of self-advertising posts. Do you think its too late to jump on the speeding bandwagon with the very limited suiters? I wouldnt want to ruin any1's chances. Moth: Isn't that romantic? I mean think of it... u get to know him after u r married to him... u know.. he will try to impress u and u will try to impress him... living ur excitement in halal way... fantastic I would say. What if he turns out to be a bum? Lets be realistic noh? Chances are and in favour of this.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: 1- Topics that reveal the insecurity of girls(WHO WANTS TO READ THAT CRAP ALL THE TIME?). 2- Men, Men, Men and about Men(this is troubling). Would you prefer... 1 - Khat 2 - "it"

Its official – “The husband hunting season†has landed. On the subject, Let me include the not so traditional but just-as-good virtual way. 1. Girl sees guy write in a forum/chatroom. 2. Girl is instantly impressed with his intellect and wisdom. 3. Girl PM’s Guy. 4. Guy responds with a volley of flattery unbeknown to Girl (He usually has extensive experience in cyber wooing). 5. Girl is taken over. 6. Guy asks for Girls number. 7. Guy and Girl talk for a few months. 8. Deal is reached cyberly. 9. Parents and guardians are brought into the realm. 10. Deal is cut. 11. Married happily for utmost another 2-3yrs. 12. Divorce. Cycle restarts. 12 simple, easy to follow, hassle free steps.

And why would I do it twice Cawo - start from scratch i.e.

^ Beats being killed and whateva I face here, I will face there just as much. And my peers are respectful.

^ Beats being a bloody Somali

“Soomaliyad baad tahay†they say. “Waa in aad dalkii ku noqotaa and help put it back on its feetâ€, hooyo macaan says. I, not wanting to seem detached and cold, just nod in agreement. But I know that deep down inside, I never want to go back. I never want to be subjected to prejudices. I don’t want to be inconvenienced. I don’t want to feel alienated. I don’t want to re-adjust…. I don’t want another change. Although I speak in that rather admirable tone sometimes Dawaco, going back home is not a realistic option for any of us 3rd generation kids. The Italians and Germans in your example started off somewhere and for me and my future, this is where I start. I’ve already started, and to continue shouldn’t be too difficult I hope… but I’m certain it wont be as challenging as having to relocate back home. And the sooner we start sinking in our roots wherever we r, the better the chances of being like those well adjusted Italian/Greek/Jewish americans. Living in this state of suspended animation, is counter productive considering the state of Somalia after 14yrs, and we risk having future generations go through the same restlessness and inability to identify with one region as permenant residence. I'm not thinking of cutting ties with everything Somali (its where my roots lie).. but like some of the others, I'm ready to settle here and call it home. Just like Dreamer and Somerican, I dont feel I own Somalia/land anything. Infact, I'm at a point in my life where I feel nothing but grief concerning the place. …. So in a few years when I get ma passport… I’ll be a proud british

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Kuwait Parliament approves women's rights (AP) 17 May 2005 KUWAIT CITY - Parliament passed a law allowing women to vote and run for public office for the first time in the country�s history. However, Islamists who have foiled past suffrage attempts introduced a restrictive article that required future female politicians and voters to abide by Islamic law. It was not clear whether that meant a strict dress code or just separate polling stations and election campaigns. Some of the women activists who ululated and sang the national anthem after the 35-23 vote Monday expressed concern about the vague restrictions, but others refused to let it dampen their joy. "I am overexcited. I can�t believe this," said activist Rola Dashti, who said she would run in the next parliamentary elections in 2007. The US-educated economist said the clause probably meant separate polling stations and not an imposition of a strict Islamic dress code that allows only women�s face, hands, and feet to show. "I am happy but I fear those Islamic law controls," said Nada al-Muttawa, a political science teacher at Kuwait University, dressed in a smart pantsuit. "I hope they are talking about separate ballot boxes and not the imposition of Islamic dress ... which infringes on personal freedoms." Conservatives called the government's move a 'bombshell' and accused it of giving in to foreign pressure. They believe women's participation contradicts Islam's teachings and complain that it would allow women to mix with men freely. Fundamentalist lawmaker Nasser al-Saneh, who voted against the bill, said he respected the house's decision but hoped it did not come as a result of government pressure that changed the position of many. In an effort to win over some suffrage opponents, earlier Monday the Cabinet approved a pay hike proposed by lawmakers to Kuwaiti employees and pensioners, at a cost of some 130 million dinars (US$445 million) a year. The vote took Muslim fundamentalist and tribal lawmakers by surprise when it was called for by the Cabinet. Lawmakers had expected to discuss a controversial vote on a law that could have opened the door for women to participate in the 2009 elections for a partially elected municipal council. The Cabinet instead insisted on a vote for the women's rights bill it introduced a year ago. The bill amends the country's 1962 election law that has kept women out of the political scene for more than four decades. The new law came six years to the day after the emir, Sheik Jaber Al Ahmed Al Sabah, granted women their political rights in a decree that was later overturned by lawmakers because it was issued in the absence of the house. Shortly after, Parliament squashed an identical suffrage bill proposed by westernized liberal lawmakers. The Prime Minister, Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah, congratulated women on their rights and said they can now be appointed to the Cabinet. In Washington, state department spokesman Richard Boucher called the move 'an important step forward for the women of Kuwait and for the nation as a whole. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan also welcomed approval of the law and congratulated the people of Kuwait on this historic step,' U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said in New York. Kuwaiti women have reached high positions in oil, education and the diplomatic corps, but few demand political rights. Monday's vote can raise the number of eligible voters in the country to 339,00, from 139,000 depending on how many decide to practice the new rights. The number of Kuwaitis is estimated at more than 960,000. The same rules that apply to men voters - at least 21 years of age and not a member of the police and military - will now apply to women. Candidates must be at least 30 years old. Women can now vote in all Middle Eastern nations where elections are held except Saudi Arabia. The Gulf nations of Bahrain, Qatar and Oman all had their first elections in recent years and have allowed women to cast ballots. Source What do you guys think? Positive/negetive move?

Stopping ground? Dont like the taste of it. Make the move or stay where u r.

^^ So ur coming over to this side?

Hehe. NG,I’m not putting you and Baashi on the same base, no sire! You’re indeed differently confused. Of course, you’ve somehow managed to salvage a little of whats left of your clarity of thought with this …. Lest you mistake my words (or at least the undertones) as a tacit support for the Somali republic, let me delight you with the fact that I’m now, in my mind at least, almost certain (as much as any of us can be certain of anything in this life) that Somaliland and Somalia do not belong together. Baashiyoow seefta dhinac nooga dhig maanta keliya and join in the festivities. …. n what do u mean by “whats with u Amy n ….� Who are you referring to? I’ve a devoted fan following…don’t let rumours fly about. Ok? We are not all married n have the luxury of looking for more Even the weather is beautiful in this side of the world today... GREAT DAY. :cool:

I dont moderate this section... so I'm free to...erm... << Some1 spot Baashi n NGONGE Anyways.... HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY MAY 18TH SOMALILANDERS

^^ Thank you for positively messing this topic.

^^ No worries. I enjoy the casual scuffle, but I never go down certain routes.

I already explained its much like the term “Paki†here in the UK. It’s not a racist term by most standards but its assumed that connotation due to the way its used. It all depends on who says it and under what context (like most racist terms). That still doesn’t take from its potential to be used as a derogatory word. And for that simple reason, I wouldn’t appreciate being referred to as “ya zola†by people who don’t know me. Anyways, this is not a subject for debate, arab brigade

This is an argument about nothing…for nothing. :rolleyes: Just for the record – I’ve never bashed Arabs. I took an issue with a certain ruling in the KSA. If you’re too blinded by misguided loyalty, I’m not. I say it like I see it. I criticise everything and everyone for what I deem incorrect. So kindly find something better to occupy ur mind with than cyber grudges. [E] Continue addressing me as Moderator, has a sweet tune to it. Makes me feel all fluffy and mighty.

*sigh* All this negativity is wearisome. I think I deserve a holiday. Anyways, Classique, I ask again, maxaa ku cunaya? You write Very interesting !!! now "Zool" is considered racist word. How about adding "waryaa" to your Dictionary of racist terms Sarcasm. Nice. I can go past it. Then you proceed to: , it seems you know Carabta better than any1 else!!! Really? Do I come across as such? Seems to who exactly? Since you can only speak for urself, I asked Got a better description for the person who posted this? . But did you answer? No. And then you make this rather very very silly statement that makes no sense to me whatsoever. P.S. : btw, I would love to read your Biography next year, can't wait to know about your life in Carabta.. What do you mean? Finally, you end of this little precious Talking about yourself dear. Check the mirror, you'll see yourself only. P.S: I will wait for the biography. Not only do you appear blatantly hostile for no apparent reason, but over something you didnt explain better. “zool†means man… n “ya zool†has assumed a racist definition. Its just like the term “Paki†here in the UK which is seemingly normal in the rest of the world. What else do you have to say? I ask one last time… maxaa ku cunaya? 'Cause for the life of me... I dont know where its coming from.