Adeer you did not even ask a real question or made an observation of any real note. For your logic goes like this, Buuba & Warrabe are kinsmen, Mohamed Jama Ghalib is another. The late Egaal and Arteh were kinsmen. Tuur and hebel are from the same family, etc. So what? There are contradictions and differences of opinion betwen even two brothers. As for Mogadishu, I ask you to tell me a single institution, road, park, port-airport, Market not under the TFG armed forces? i DEAL WITH FACTS you are dealing with dayniile.com hearsay. Now read this. Nabad Sugidda Qaranka oo hanjabaad u soo diray xafiiska shabakada dayniile.com ee Muqdisho iyo ciidan ka tirsan nabad sugida oo baadi goobaya shaqaalaha xafiiska ee Muqdisho Nabada Sugida Qaranka ee DFKMG ayaa saakay weerar ba’an kusoo qaaday xafiiska dayniile ee Muqdisho iyagoo wata gaari Cabdi Bile ah si ay xabsiga ugu taxaabaan shaqaalaha shabakada wararka ee Dayniile.com So the NSS now can actually target specefic offices and all the Qarn-diid web portals can do is complain. So who is in control Adeer watch the clip of Sharif Ahmed of Asmara's kinsmen dancing in Mogadishu..

lol. Ethiopian, Kenyan, Ugandan, Yemen, and the rest of the worlds support is important. However the people even in the SANAAG and SOOL, CAYN which you claim support the TFG. Dont look far adeer. As for success if you mean the bombers. the poverty and the criminals. They are being dealt with slowly.

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Conclusion In conclusion, Somalia is back on track and moving on. The future is bright for Somalia and the fruits of the reconciliation process will be seen soon. We will no longer allow the nation to be held to ransom through violence and intimidation. The international community should not stand on the sideline and give lip service to Somalia. A genuine political and financial support from the international community will speedup the reconciliation process and make sure that Somalia will never be a haven for international terrorism. There is no going back for Somalia. Thank You,

Ciidamada Booliska Soomaaliya oo Miino ka saaray Xaafado ay ka howlgaleen Arbaco, August 29, 2007(HOL): Ciidamada Booliska Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa maanta waxay Miino ka saareen qeybo ka tirsan Wadada Warshadaha kadib markii ay Ciidamadu howlgallo ka sameeyeen xaafadaha u dhow Wadadaas. Afhayeenka Ciidamada Booliska Soomaaliyeed u qaabilsan xiriirka Dadweynaha iyo Saxaafadda C/waaxid Maxamed Xuseen ayaa sheegay in dadweyne degan halka Miinadaas lagu aasay ay Ciidamada Booliska ku soo wargeliyeen, kadibna ay sidaas ku suurtagashay in ay Miinadaas meesha ka saaraan. C/waaxid Maxamed Xuseen ayaa intaas ku daray in ay Ciidamada Booliska sidoo kale ay howlgallo ka sameeyeen xaafado ka tirsan Degmada Heliwaa iyo weliba Suuqa Xoolaha, wuxuuna carrabka ku dhuftay in ay howlgalladaas ku soo qabqabteen Dad la tuhunsan yahay in ay ku lug lahaayeen Weerarro qaraxyo watay oo dhawaanahan lagu qaadayay fariisimo ay Ciidamo ka amar qaata Dowladda Federaalka ay ku leeyihiin Xaafado Degmada Heliwaa. Dhanka kalena, Afhayeenka Ciidamada Booliska waxaa uu sheegay in habeenkii xalay ahaa agagaarka Hotel Laf-weyn lagu dilay Askari ka tirsan Ciidamada Dowladda Federaalka, balse ka howlgelayay Degmada Jowhar ee Gobolka Shabeelaha Dhexe, isagoo caddeeyay in ay Askarigaas toogteen rag hubeysan oo markii ay dileen kadib baxsaday. Sidoo kalena, labo ruux oo rayid ah ayaa habeenkii xalay ahaa waxaa lagu dilay Degmada Wadajir ee Gobolka Banaadir, iyadoo labadaas ruux markii la dilayay loogu galay gurigooda, waa sida ay ku warameen dad goob-joog u ahaa dhacdadaas. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Magaalada Muqdisho ee caasimadda Dalka Soomaaliya ayaa muddooyinkan dambe waxaa ka dhaca dilal loo geysto dad rayid ah oo aan waxba galabsan iyo weliba saraakiisha Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya, iyadoo dilalkaasna ay bilowdeen kadib markii ay Dowladda Federaalka la wareegtay gacan ku heynta Magaalada Muqdisho. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

International Support The vast majority of the Somali people inside and outside of the country support the Government and the government is trying its best to restore law and order and good governance to Somalia. We know it is not easy and we are not complaisant. But Somalia needs political and economic support from the international community. The many pledges of support we were given in the past three years were not translated into reality. We don’t think the international community would want to see Somalia slip back to the bad old days of instability and bloodshed. There is a real opportunity for Somalia to rise once again and that opportunity is with the TFG. The alternative is chaos and instability in Somalia and beyond. A peaceful Somalia is in the interest of world peace. The Somali government has almost no indigenous economic capacity to effect and sustain quick change on the ground on its own and this makes the need for the international community to fulfill its pledges all the more urgent. As Somali President recently said that the outside world promised a reconstruction plan with a full package to develop the lives of Somalis in war-torn Somalia but efforts of the international community are confined to meager humanitarian work. As of today, the financial support the TFG received is at best negligible and miraculously we are still holding pretty firm. The alternative simply is not acceptable. Unfortunately, the only thing we hear from some members of the international community is a growling protest against the security operations undertaken by the TFG with the help of our Ethiopian and AMISOM friends. We simply refuse to go back to hell again, but we may be forced by circumstance to remain in purgatory a bit longer than we must if the international community fails to fulfill its promise. With no means to put boots or uniforms on our forces, nor the means to arm, feed, or pay their salaries, the TFG might not be able to forever contain the forces of doom and gloom who have nothing to lose and everything to gain from the perpetuation of anarchy in Somalia. In the meantime, external material and moral support continues to replenish the coffers of the terrorist groups in Somalia through Eritrea among other places. The Transitional Federal Government would like to reiterate its commitment to cooperate with and support relief agencies and would like International Community to contribute more urgent needed humanitarian assistance. The whole country needs immediate intervention to rebuild and redevelop what was destroyed. Support for AMISOM in Somalia: Ladies and Gentlemen, let me clearly state our heartfelt and sincere appreciation of our friend and neighbor, Ethiopia, who came to our rescue and sacrificed both blood and treasure to safe us from global terror network. We are also equally grateful to the people and government of Uganda for their generous and tangible support to the TFG. The Ugandan AMISOM contingent continues to make real difference in the streets of Mogadishu everyday. We are eternally indebted to both of these sister countries. Hopefully one day we will be able to return the favor. We understand the desire of our Ethiopian friends to go home and Somalia is forever grateful for their sacrifice, but without the arrival of the complete AMISOM forces the departure of the Ethiopian forces will create a potentially catastrophic security vacuum, which only services the dark forces of terror and destruction. Therefore, We will like them to remain in the country and help maintain the peace and stability until the African peacekeeping forces arrive in reasonable strength or until the Somali forces reach a level of strength in number, equipment and training that gives them the capability to do the job themselves. Finally, as some of your Excellencies will surely understand, democracies may be able to militarily easily defeat terrorists and other elements of organized crime; but it is not nowadays nearly as easy to defeat these criminal forces in the political realm. This is especially true when criminals master the language of democratic discourse and cynically and maliciously exploit it by appealing to the sensibilities of civilized society; when in fact, they are, on the other hand ceaselessly working to bring that which nourishes these very sensibilities to an abrupt end. The supporters of the so-called UIC in Somalia fall squarely into this category. On the one hand, they want to commit horrendous, indiscriminate acts of terrorism including assassinations, planting of Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) for the sole purpose of murdering and maiming not only the TFG’s security forces but also those of AMISOM and civilians. On the other hand, they expect to be exempted from the due process. A great danger looms in the view espoused by some organizations and states that protecting the rights of the terrorists must take precedence over that of their victims. These groups have enough surface-to-air missiles, suicide vests and explosives to sustain their war against the internationally backed Somali government, largely due to secret shipments from Eritrea. According to the United Nations, Eritrea has shipped a "huge quantity of arms" to these groups. The shipments continued despite U.N. efforts to bring peace to Somalia and the deployment of African Union peacekeepers I hope that this distinguished panel will help the larger community get a fuller appreciation of what is at stake in Somalia and how critical it is for the TFG to succeed in resuscitating this long comatose state. To this end, I once again appeal to you individually to convey to your respective governments the difficulty that we face in bringing peace and stability to Somalia. We are, on our side, ready to engage, embrace and even incorporate into every sector of the government those who genuinely foreswear violence and make a commitment to a true peace and reconciliation before it is too late.

2. Political Process: As you are all aware, the political spectrum of Somalia changed radically with the defeat of the Mogadishu warlords at the hands of the Union of Islamic Courts. The government tried to engage with Islamic Courts in order to find a way out for Somalia. Unfortunately the Courts had no plan to negotiate and used the Khartoum meetings as a delaying tactic until they took control over the rest of the country by force and created new realities in the ground. Their true intension became apparent in December 2006 when their forces attacked Baidoa, the seat of the TFG. The rest is history. Despite this change of circumstance, the TFG extended a conciliatory hand to the moderate elements of the UIC to join the political process. Instead they preferred to seek sanctuary in Eritrea and mastermind the terrorist activities that were seen in some parts of Mogadishu. That will not succeed. The National Reconciliation Congress In order to complete the reconciliation process and draw the curtain on the darkest period of the Somali history, President Abdullahi Yusuf called for a national reconciliation congress. It is not, as some cynics have it, a window dressing meant to get financial support from the international community. This is a genuine all-inclusive Congress to which the government is commitment to ensuring its success with or without external help. The Congress is supervised and administered by an independent group of distinguished citizens led by the former president Ali Mahdi Mohamed. The attendance is based on the clan representation (4.5 formula) and is open to whoever is nominated by their clan leaders with respect of guidelines set by the National Governance and Reconciliation Committee. The participants will include clan leaders, religious leaders, business community, women and youth groups, representatives from regional and local administrations, and Somali professional organizations including local non-governmental organizations and the Diaspora communities. TFG will respect the outcome of the Congress and will give the outmost consideration to the recommendations outlined by its participants. The aim of the congress is to facilitate genuine national dialogue and resolve outstanding issues between the various clans. The success and sustainability of Somali peace process depends not only the agreements among Somali Clans and the efforts of our Government but also on the commitment and assistance of international community. Both the regional and the international involvement are needed. The challenges that await my government however continue to remain daunting and the TFG now more than ever needs your sustained support.

1. Security Sitaution Since the fateful error of the ICU forces in attacking the temporary seat of the Somali government, the TFG forces assisted by our Ethiopian allies are fully in control of most of Southern Somalia. The TFG is following a two-pronged approach to pacify these areas. First, we intend to vigorously fight lawlessness and eliminate extremism. Second, we want to quickly rehabilitate the administrative and legal apparatuses of the government including the police stations, regional and local courts, and other security and legal institutions. We have thus far succeeded to complete the reestablishment of regional and local transitional administrations in most of the southern regions of the country including Mogadishu. Today, with the exception of some pockets of Mogadishu, Somalia is indeed peaceful and the people are going about their daily life without fear for their lives. The government is determined to restore peace to Mogadishu too.

The fundamentals of TFG is based on three pillars Mogadishu, Tuesday , August 28 2007 SMC Horn of Africa Conference Lund, Sweden August 24-26, 2007 H. E. Hussien Elabe Fahiye, Minister for Foreign Affairs & International Cooperation Somali Transitional Federal Government: Statement on Somalia Excellencies, Distinguished Delegates The Transitional Federal Government of Somalia was the outcome of two and half year’s reconciliation conference held in Kenya, participated by various stakeholders of the Somali conflict. The fundamentals of TFG is based on three pillars: a) the sharing of the political power on clan basis (the 4.5 formula), (b) Transitional federal charter, and © federal administrations. On the basis of these agreements parliament was established, the president was elected and cabinet was nominated. Excellencies, Distinguished Representatives. It is obvious, that the absence of an effective government in Somalia for nearly two decades created an atmosphere of absolute lawlessness where the gun was the master. For some, the violence became a wealth-generating business enterprise. The categorization of all acts of violence in Somalia as having political foundation gave the beneficiaries from these acts power, and made them “faction leaders”. It was imperative to deal with this widespread lawlessness in the country. For the first two years of its existence, the TFG has taken a conciliatory approach to dealing with the political and security situation they inherited and tried to accommodate all the leaders of the armed factions. Today, some of those who have lost the monopoly of violence are trying their best to intimidate the government and people of Mogadishu by carrying out acts of terrorism by planting explosives in the streets of the capital or targeting prominent individuals for assassination. This small criminal class must be dealt with in a manner that effectively puts an end to the kind of lawlessness that rendered our country to become a potential haven for international terrorism. The government is resolved to root out terrorism from Somalia, restore law and order; rehabilitate state institutions, and last but not least, establish good governance. Together with our friends we made substantial gains in some of these important areas.

Cali Mahdi “Shirka berrito ayuu inoo xermayaa balse dib u heshiisiintu waxay ka soconeysaa deegaanada aad ka timadeen” { 29 Aug 2007} waxaa la daabacay Wed 29 Aug 2007 15: 22: 02 Guddoomiyaha guddiga shirka dib u heshiisiinta beelaha Soomaaliyeed Md. Cali Mahdi Maxamed oo maanta ka hadlayey madasha shirka ayaa sheegay in berrito la soo xeri doono shirkii dib u heshiisiinta ee 15-kii Luulyo ka furmay magaalada Muqdisho. “Shirka berrito ayuu inoo xermayaa balse dib u heshiisiintu waxay ka soconeysaa deegaanada aad ka timaadeen, sida gobolada, degmooyinka iyo tuulooyinka, waana natiijada ka soo baxday shirkan 45-ka cisho noo socday” ayuu yiri Cali Mahdi oo ka soo laabtay booqashadii uu ku tegay magaalada Nayroobi ee dalka Kenya. “Dad dano gaar ah leh ayaa war aan jirin u gudbiyay wadamada deeq bixiyayaasha oo u sheegay wax aan jirin, wixii lagu shubay ayaan ka soo shubnay waana ku soo guuleysanay qarashkii shirka loogu deeqayna Nus ayaa lagu soo shubay shirkadda Dahab-Shiil taasoo aan filayo iney maanta ama berriba ay madasha soo gaari doonto” ayuu yiri Cali Mahdi oo ergooyinka ugu baaqay iney howlaha dib u heshiisiinta ka sii wadaan deegaanadii ay ka yimaadeen. Dhinaca kale madasha shirka ayaa maanta lagu soo gabagabeeyay qodobkii xaquuqda haweenka iyadoo loo saaray guddi loogu magic daray guddiga xaquuqda haweenka kaasoo ay mid ka mid ah haweenkii ka hadlayey madasha ay sheegtay in magacaabistaasi ay tahay mid sidii dhalaanka lagu sabayo haweenka waayo ayey tiri shirka berrito xermaya ayaa la yiri Guddi ayaa loo magacaabay. Qaar ka tirsan ergada shirka ka qeybgaleysa ayaa soo jeediyay in mudo lagu daro shirka maadaama uu dhiman yahay wajiga labaad oo muhiim u ahaa shirka kaasoo looga hadli lahaa dhinaca siyaasadda, balse lama oga sababta keentay in si lama filaan ah uu guddoonku ugu dhawaaqo in shirka beri la soo gabagabeynayo taasoo u muuqato in howl qabyo ah uu ku baxay waqti iyo qarash fara badan. Waxaa jira warar aan la xaqiijin oo sheegaya in xubno ka tirsan ergooyinka shirka iyo duubabka caanka ah ee ka maqan la qorsheynayo in shir dib u heshiisiineed oo daba jooga midkan Muqdsho lagu qaban doono dalka Sacuudi Carabiya. Gobolkabanaadir.com

G/Dhexe C/llaahi Bariise: ““Howlgalada ciidamada Boolisku wey soconayaan ilaa Boolisku ka qaato bud iyo firimbigii uu caanka ku ahaa,” { 29 Aug 2007} waxaa la daabacay Wed 29 Aug 2007 15: 03: 06 Dowladda Federaalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya ayaa maanta shaaca ka qaatay iney socon doonaan howlgalada ciidamada ilaa laga sugayo amaanka oo ay meelo xasiloon ka noqonayaan goobaha ay iminka ka jiraan rabshadaha. Madaxa howlgalada ciidamada Booliska Gobolka Banaadir G/Dhexe Cabdullaahi Xasan Bariise ayaa sheegay in ay waajibaad ka saaran yahay Booliska sidii loo sugi lahaa amniga isla markaana loo heli lahaa nabadgelyo taasoo ay ku imaan karto marka shacbigu ay gacan ku siiyaan Booliska lana soo socod siiyaan meelaha ay ku gambanayaan kooxaha fidna wadayaasha. “Howlgalada ciidamada Boolisku wey soconayaan ilaa Boolisku ka qaato bud iyo firimbigii uu caanka ku ahaa, waayo Boolisku waa kii u adeegayey shacbiga, waana kuwo Soomaaliyeed, waxaan ugu baaqayaa shacbiga ku dhaqan deegaanada Huriwaa, SOS iyo Suuqa Xoolaha oo maalmahan ay ka jireen rabshadaha iney gacan ka geystaan howlaha nabad soo celinta, Booliskuna duulaan kuma aha shacbiga ee waa kuwo u socda sidii ay dadku ku heli lahaayeen nabadgelyo iyo hurdo” ayuu yiri Gdhexe Cabdullaahi Xasan Bariie. Madaxa hoggaanka howlgalada wuxuu kaloo intaa raaciyay in uu waajib ka saaran yahay dalka iyo dadka wixii dhibayana ay ka difaacayaan isla markaana ay ku fidi doonaan goob alla goobtii ay ka jirto xasilooni daro ayna ka sameysan doonaan saldhigyo ciidan. Gobolkabanaadir.com

^^^lol. You sound ever so desperate. The tide has turned and 2000 deleagtes from across all clans came together in searh of peace. They have aired their differences and came to the forgive each other. Forgiveness is a powerful tool and may Allah give these honest elders wishes to see true peace in Somalia. Mogadishu is under control. The fact that 2000 delegates came and lived there for all this time proves its not a major issue. The bombing is an issue that is being dealt with. Somalia is back, go ask the Boqor's, Imaan's, Suldan's, Malaag's, Ugaas's and Nabadoon's who came together for the firts time in peace.

Ciidamada Dawladda oo qabtay miinooyinka masaafada dheer laga hago Ciidamada dawladda federaalka Soomaaliya, ayaa maanta baaritaanno baaxad leh ka wada xaafadaha SOS iyo Suuqa Xoolaha iyadoo ciidanku uu gacanta ku soo dhigay labo kamid ah miinooyinka masaafada dheer laga hago. Xoogagga dawladda federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa sidoo kale maanta lagu arkayey dhammaan isgoysyada muhiimka ah ee magaalada Muqdisho, kuwaas oo wada hawlo ammaanka lagu sugayo. Qabqabashada miinooyinka ayaa waxaa xaqiijiyey afhayeenka ciidamada booliiska Cabdiwaaxid Xasan. Baaritaannada iyo hawlgallada ciidamada ayaa ku soo beegmaya iyadoo habeenkii xalay magaalada Muqdisho lagu diley dhawr qof. Xasan Mutawakil SBC Muqdisho

Ciidamada Police-ka oo Toogasho ku dilay Labo qarandiid oo Caawa Bom Gacmeed ku soo Weeraray Saldhiga Degmada Hodan ee Muqdisho ( Police-ka oo sheegay in meydka labadan nin ay wali yaalan ) Sida uu goordhaweyd sheegay afhayeenka Policeka Ciidamada Police-ka ayaa toogasha ku dilay Laba Qarandiid oo Bam ku soo Weeraray Ciidamada halkaa ku jira. G/Sh/Dhexe C/Waaxid ayaa sheegay in meydka labadan Nin ay wali yaalaan ilinka Hore ee Saldhiga xiligaan , iyadoo Ciidamada Nabad sugida Saraakiil ka tirsan ay durna goobta gaareen. Maalmihii ugu danbeeyey ayaa Ciidamada Police-ka waxa ay toogasho ku hayeen Kooxaha Qarandiika ee soo Weerara , Waxaana horey loo toogtay ku dhawada 10 Qarandid oo saldhigyo Weerarayey. Xaalada Degmada Hodan oo ay Kooxahaan Caawa Weerareen ayaa Caadi ah , waxaana roonda wada Ciidamada Police-ka

Md. Cali Mahdi oo sheegay inay kooxaha mucaaradsan Shirka Dib-u-heshiisiinta isku hawleen sidii ay Taageeradda Beesha Caalamka u xayiri lahaayeen Mogadishu, Arbaco , August 29 2007 SMC Guddoomiyaha Shir-guddoonka Shirweynaha Dib-u-heshiisiinta Beelaha Somalia, Md. Cali Mahdi Maxamed, ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay Beesha Caalamka dhamaystireen Taageeraddii dhaqaale ee ay ugu yabooheen Shirweynaha Dib-u-heshiisiinta Beelaha Somalia ee ka socda magaalladda Muqdishu. Md. Cali Mahdi Maxamed oo mansabka siyaasadda ka gaaray heer Madaxweyne, ayaa hadalkaasi maanta ka sheegay Kulankii Ergooyinka Beelaha Somalia ee ka qeyb gelayo Shirka Dib-u-heshiisiinta, wuxuuna xusay inay jireen olole ka dhan ah Shirweynaha, oo ay Kooxaha ka soo horjeeda Shirweynaha ay ku doonayeen inay Beesha Caalamka ku xayirto Kaalmadda loogu talagalay socodsiinta Shirweynahaasi. “Waxaan gacanta ku haynaa Kharajkaasi oo qeyb ka mid ah la soo dhigay Shirkadda Dahab-shiil, oo maanta ama berri la soo qaadi doono, waxaana idiin sheegayaa inay kooxaha Shirka diidanaa inay Beesha Caalamka u gudbiyeen warar qaldan oo ay ku doonayeen in lagu fashiliyo Shirka” ayuu yiri Cali Mahdi oo shalay ka soo laabtay safar shaqo oo uu ku tegay Caasimadda dalka Kenya ee Nairobi.

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lool. Powerful media houses you say. Their predictions are based on individuals such as yourselfs, ill informed and driven by clan. Remmeber the "regional war" and the other predictions. Mogadishu is 90% tamed the rest is a simple fact to be overcome with time. More training for police and strengthening the security apparatus. 8 months, two years what ever it takes. Mogadishu is no longer a clan haven its the capital of Somalia.

It is being tamed and will. Insha Allah. all this talk is nonsical. The TFG has two years to overcome this simple fact.

Brown hails 'courageous' Mandela Mr Brown paid tribute to Mr Mandela's courage Prime Minister Gordon Brown has called Nelson Mandela the "greatest and most courageous leader of our generation" as he welcomed him to Downing Street. The former South African president is in London to witness a 9ft-high (2.7m) bronze statue of himself being unveiled in Parliament Square. The pair met for private talks ahead of the unveiling on Wednesday. A Downing Street aide said the pair had known each other a long time and the talks were a chance to "catch up". Mr Mandela said he was proud to be inside Number 10, joking: "My wife and I are happy to be here because, as you know, this was one of our rulers, but we overthrew them. "We are on an equal basis now."

Mandela's message to black Britain 'Scale the mountains': the call from Mandela to black leaders By Cahal Milmo Published: 29 August 2007 Nelson Mandela, the hero of the global battle for racial equality, last night made an impassioned appeal for leading black Britons to take a lead in countering violence and low achievement in the inner cities. At the start of a visit to Britain to celebrate his own life, the former South African president said it was vital that the achievements of the UK's successful black people were harnessed to inspire those "who scale the mountains with you". The challenge from the 89-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner, who will today unveil a 9ft statue of himself in Parliament Square, comes at a time of intense debate about the need for a new generation of role models for black teenagers. A report this month estimated that tackling under-achievement among young black men and boys would boost the British economy by £24bn over 50 years. Mr Mandela said the gathering was "testament not only to the achievements of all of you gathered but also to the ability of a city to harness the talents of all of those who come in search of opportunity, and all of those who follow them". Mr Mandela added: "Leadership comes with responsibility. It is important for you as leaders to harness those responsibilities and ensure that you also empower those around you who scale the mountains with you." The message was delivered by Mr Mandela's grandson to a dinner held at the Dorchester Hotel in Mayfair for leading black Britons to recognise their success, much of it in areas that go unrecognised by mainstream media. Mr Mandela said of the gathering: "Although this evening may only represent the first-ever Londoner Black Leader dinner, it is your job to ensure that this is only the first of many such events to follow." Among the guests last night were Stanley Musesengwa, the head of multi-national sugar conglomerate Tate & Lyle, and Damon Buffini, the boss of the private equity firm, Permira. Mr Mandela, who was too frail to attend last night's event, took the opportunity to underline the message that black communities should be seeking equality during an earlier visit to Downing Street. Speaking alongside his wife, Graca Machel, after a meeting with Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Mr Mandela said: "My wife and I are happy to be here because, as you know, they were one of our rulers, but we overthrew them. We are on an equal basis now." Gordon Brown described the one-time prisoner of apartheid as "the most inspiring, the greatest and most courageous leader of our generation". Mr Mandela's intervention takes place amid growing concern that youths in inner cities are being drawn into gangs because they see a lack of alternatives. Tony Blair caused anger among black community leaders when he used a speech shortly before his resignation to insist that a spate of fatal shootings and stabbings in London was caused by a distinct black culture rather than poverty. According to Home Office figures, some 75 per cent of gun crime victims - and 79 per cent of suspects - come from the African-Caribbean community. US civil rights activist the Reverend Jesse Jackson said last week that stemming the flow of guns and drugs into the UK was "critical". But he echoed the thoughts of many black leaders when he said that equal importance needed to be attached to bringing ethnic communities into politics and investing in issues such as job opportunities, wage inequality, the impact of debt and day-care provision. Reach, a report by 20 experts on how to tackle the issues faced by black youngsters published this month, highlighted mentoring as key measure alongside investment to prevent the creation of US-style ghettos in the inner cities. Leading campaigners welcomed Mr Mandela's message. The Reverend Nims Obunge, the chief executive of the Peace Alliance, a leading campaign group against gang crime, said: "There is an African saying that it takes a whole village to raise a child. I believe he is calling on Britain's village elders to take a greater role in raising the children of our own village."

^^^loool. I like the brothers excuses. Wonderful stuff indeed. So Siyad was a hero?

No to Qabil indeed.

Emperor hit the nail right on the head. Calnist songs, destruction of the nations iinstitution was his legecy and yet they talk.

^^Maybe it does.