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Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: So duke you wouldn't mind if Sharmarke was replaced by an Ahlu Sunna commander? I dont much care adeer, its just ammusing that these clowns are wasting time on power sharing when they have not won the war yet. Sharmarke is also not that important, nor is Sharif, we are already seeing the end game. Ahlu Sunna's importance comes from the taming and setting up of an admin in central Somalia. That would be a key to solving Somalia's problem. Juje again angry at the Duke, why?
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Caabudwaaq:Ciidamo ka tirsan DFMG ah oo Ehlusuna u xiran. Caabudwaaq(Allpuntland)-Ciidamo katirsan Ciidanka dawlada Soomaaliya ayaa u xirxiray Culimo owdiinka Ehlusna waljamaaca,ciidankan ayaa dhawaan laga soo qabqabtay xaafad ku taala magaalada Caabudwaaq ee gobolka galgaduud. Ciidankan oo tiradooda lagu sheegay 23-askari ayaa waxa ay Culimo owdiinku sheegeen in ay ka shakiyeen dabadeedna ay ugu galeen xaafad ay ku sugnaayeen oo kutaal gudaha magaaladaas,waxaana ay Cilimadu xaqiijiyeen in markii lasoo qabtay laga helo qoryo &bistoolado ay ku hubaysnaayeen. Taliyaha ciidanka Ehlusanna ee degmada Caabudwaaq ayaa APL u sheegay in ay si nabadgalyo ah ciidankaas u soo qabteen,wuxuuna sheegay inay amaanka Caabudwaaq ay uga shakiyeen inuu khakhal galo. "Walaalow ciidankani waxay ahaayeen 23-asari waxayna ku hubaysnaayeen hubka fud fudud,waxaanuna kusoo qabanay si nabad gelyo ah imikana baaritaano ayaanu ku haynaa oo qaarkood waanuba sii deynay"Ayuu yiri taliyaha ciidamada Ehlusana Waljameeca ee degmada Caabudwaaq oo APL wax kaweydiisay askartan ay soo qabqabteen. APL ayaa taliyaha weydiisay sababta keentay inay ciidamo DFKMG ah katirsan xabsiga u taxaabeen,wuxuuna sheegay inuusan ogeyn ciidankani inay kuwa Dawlada ka tirsan yihiin,wuxuuna sii raachey inayan dawladu wax xiriir ah kala samayn askartan xiran. "Nimankan ma hubno inay ciidamada Dawlada ka tirsan yihiin,hadii ay katirsan yihiina dawladu way nala soo xiriiri lahayd balse hada wax xiriir ah nalama aysan samayn,anaguna xaq ayaanu u leenahay inaanu ameenkeena sugano soona qabano cidii khalkhal wada"Ayuu yiri Taliyuhu. Ciidamadan la sheegay inay ka tirsan yihiin kuwa dawlada Soomaaliya ayaa maalinkii 3-aad uxiran Culimada Ehlusan Waljameeca,waxaana lasheegay in qaarkood lasiidaayey qaarna baaritaano lagu hayo,warar hoose oo ciidankan laga helayo ayaa sheegaya inuu ku jiro Taliyihii Ciidanka dawlada ee Gobolada Dhexe ee Soomaaliya. Cabiqani Xayir Allpuntland
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Shirka uga socda Addis Ababa Dowladda KMG iyo Ahlu Sunah oo maalmaha soo socda natiijo rasmi laga soo saarayo. Shirweynaha magaalada Addis Ababa uga socday Dowladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya iyo Ahlu Sunah Waljamaacah ayaa ku dhow in maalmaha soo socda laga gaaro is afgarad buuxa, iyadoo labada dhinac ay marba marka ka dambeysay ay isaga soo dhowaanayaan sidii hore. Ilo war gal ah ayaa u xaqiijiyay Shabakada Jowhar.com in wada hadalka labada dhinac u socda ee galay mudada labada todobaad uu marayo heer gabo gabo, waxaana lagu wadaa in maalmaha soo socda natiijo rasmi laga soo saaro. Shirkan oo si aad ah looga ilaaliyay in warbaahinta wax ka ogaato ayaa waxaa goob joog ka ah diblomaasiyiin caalami ah oo ka socota Beesha Caalamka, kuwaasoo xilligan daneynaya is afgarad dhex mara labada dhinac. Ra'iisul Wasaare Kuxigeenka Ahna Wasiirka Maaliyada oo hormuud u ah Wafdiga Dowladda ayaa lagu wadaa inuu saxiixo heshiiska, halka wafuuda culus ee ka socda Ahlu Sunah shirkaas uga qeyb galaysa ee uu horkacayo Macalin Maxamuud Sheekh Xasan ay iyana saxiixi doonaan. Is afgarad aan wali la shaacin ayaa laga gaaray qodobka Milateriga, oo ah in labada dhinac iskaashi buuxa ka wada sameeyaan la dagaalanka Kooxaha ka soo horjeeda, in la isku daro Ciidamada Dowladda iyo kuwa Ahlu Sunah ee Gobolada Dhexe iyo in Dowladda KMG ay ku caawiso saanada milateri. Wariyaha Jowhar.com ee Muqdisho ayaa soo sheegaya in wada hadalka oo ah mid qarsoodi ah aad dhegta loogu taagayo, natiijada ka soo bixi karta, hase ahaatee waxaa jira tuhun laga qabi kari in ay marka lagu dhawaaqo heshiiskan in ay dhacaan mucaaradyo, sida horayba u dhacday mararka ay labo koox heshiis gaarto ay ka soo baxaan kuwo gaar ah oo naqdiya. Qodobka Siyaasada ayaa wali is afgarad laga gaarin, waxaase muuqata in labada dhinacba uu jiro isu soo dhowaansho, taasoo suura gal ka dhigi karta in ay heshiis buuxa ka gaaraan, waxaana qodobka uu qeexayaa in labada dhinac ay awood qeybsi ku yeeshaan Dowladda KMG, waxaana la filayaa in Ahlu Sunah ay ugu yaraan xilal culus ka hesho Xukuumada KMG. Shirkan ayaa aad uga duwan shirarkii hore, waxaana agaasinkiisa yahay mid ay Beesha Caalamka ay wado, waxaana muuqata in maalmaha soo socda ka soo baxayaan heshiisyo rasmi ah oo labada dhinac ay ku kala saxiixdaan. Hoyga wararka Somaliyed www.Jowhar.com Jowharcom@hotmail.com Jowharcom@gmail.com
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Ahlusunna ask for Somalia PM position in talks with govt 17 Feb 17, 2010 - 9:02:52 AM Somalia's pro-government Islamist group Ahlu Sunnah Wal-Jamaa is reportedly negotiating for the position of the country’s premier in the on-going talks with the UN-backed transitional federal Somali government. Officials from both sides are holding preliminary talks in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, and according to sources, the talks' theme has changed from discussions on how best to integrate their forces and face their common enemy, Al-Shabaab and Hizbul Islam to negotiations on power sharing. The government side is led by Finance Minister Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan, Postal and communication minister Abdirisaq Osman Hassan (Jurille) and political advisor to the president lawmaker Mustaf Ahmed Dhuxulow (Dhegdher). Confidential sources say the meeting, which is strongly backed by concerned parties led by African Union including neighboring countries, is meant to push for the inclusion of Ahul-Sunnah into the fragile government. The sources add that Finance Minister Sharif Adan and his Postal and communication counterpart Jurille are engaged in campaign to drum up support for their different successors of the Premiership position with all going for officials from Ahlu Sunnah. Sheikh Adan is said to be uncomfortable with current Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke who hails from Somalia’s Puntland state. However, the strengthening of Ahlu Sunnah's power, a group which only took arms after Al-Shabaab desecrated the tombs of their important sheikhs, poses the biggest nightmare for Sheikh Sharif's government. The fragile government is reportedly mulling over plans to curb the supremacy of the group once the other Islamist groups are eliminated out of the political scene. GAROWE ONLINE
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Ahlu Sunnah oo dalbatey Ra'isal wasaaraha Somalia 17 Feb 17, 2010 - 4:19:19 AM Warar laga helayo shir qarsoodi ah oo uga socda magaalada Addis Ababa ee xarunta dalka Ethiopia xubo ka tirsan ururka Ahlu Sunah wal-jamaca iyo Dowladda Federalka ayaa sheegaya inuu marayo meel xasaasi ah. Xogaha kasoo baxaya kulankaan ayaa sheegaya in ururka ahlu-sunah Waljamaca dalbadey in Xukuumadda DFKMG ah laga siiyo Xilka Ra'isal Wasaaraha Somalia iyo Lix Wasiir oo muhiim ah. Waftiga Dowladda Federalka matalaya ayaa waxaa hogaaminaya Wasiirka Maaliyada Shariix Xasan iyo Wasiirka Boostada iyo Isgaarsiinta Absirizaq Jurile iyo Xubin ka tirsan Barlamanka Somalia ahna la taliyaha Sheekh Shariif Mustafa Dhuxulow halka dhinaca Ahlu Sunah uu horkacayo Sh. Ma'alin Maxamud Sh. Xasan. Wadahadaladaan ayaa la rumeysan yahay iney dabada ka riixayaan wadamada daneeya arrimaha Somalia gaar ahaan midowga Afrika kuwaasoo raadinaya in uruka ahlu-sunah Waljamaca lagu soo daro dowladda inta aan la qaadin weeraro la filayo in lala beegsado ururada mucaaradka. Dhinaca kale warar dheeraad ah ayaa sheegaya in Wasiirka Maaliyada Shariif Xasan oo ah gacanta midig ee Madaxweyne Sh. Shariif iyo Abdirizaq Jurile oo ah Wasiirka Boostada ay u kala ololeynayaan qofka noqonaya Ra'isal Wasaaraha Somalia kaasoo ka imaan doona dhinaca Ahlu Sunah Waljamaca. Wadamada dariska la ah Somalia islamarkaana wel-welka ka qaba awoodda sii baalaraneysa ee ururka Al-Shabab iyo Hisbul Islaam ayaa dalbanaya in la mideeyo dowladda Federaalka ah iyo Ahlu Sunah Wal-jamaca iyada oo ay jiraan khilaaf iyo kala shaki u dhaxeeya labada dhinac. Dowladda Sheekh Shariif madaxda ka yahay ayaa shaki weyn ka qabta awooda gobolada dhexe ay ku yeelanayaan uruka Ahlu Sunaha Wal-jamaca oo dagaal kula jira Al-shabaab iyo Hisbul Islaam iyada xogo lagu kalsoon yahay sheegayaan in dowladda Federaalka ah ka dambeysay in Ahlu-sunah laga qabsado Hiraan kadib markii khilaaf ka dhex-abureen xoogagii ku mideysnaa la dagaalanka mucaaradka. Lama oga halka uu ku dhamaanayo wadaxajoodka Shariif Xasan kula jiro ururka Ahlu Sunah Waljamaca iyada warar lagu kalsoon yahay sheegayan inuu in muddo ah ka shaqeynayey sidii loo badali lahaa Ra'isal Wasaare Cumar Cabdirashid oo kasoo jeeda gobolada Puntland. GAROWE ONLINE
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What does the future hold for our neighbors?
General Duke replied to Che -Guevara's topic in Politics
Che thanks Adeer, it seems our neighbours are in trouble. Let's watch and see how things unfold. Good read. -
^^^Mossad made a mistake in Jordan back in 1997, that is still talked about, thus this can be the same case, though do they care? No, they took out their target.
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Gordon Brown pledges inquiry as Israel refuses to rule out Mossad plot in Dubai International row deepens over use of fake UK passports as Israeli foreign minister fails to deny Mossad involvement Gordon Brown today stepped into the growing international row over the alleged use of fake passports by the assassins of a Hamas leader in Dubai by promising a full investigation. As demands were made for the Israeli ambassador to be summoned to the Foreign Office to answer allegations that its Mossad security service was behind the assassination, the prime minister told London's LBC radio station: "We are looking at this at this very moment. We have got to carry out a full investigation into this. The British passport is an important document that has got to be held with care. "The evidence has got to be assembled about what has actually happened and how it happened and why it happened, and it is necessary for us to accumulate that evidence before we can make statements." Earlier, the Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, broke his government's silence saying there was no proof that Mossad was behind the killing. However, he did not explicitly deny any Israeli involvement, saying his government had a "policy of ambiguity" on intelligence issues. "I don't know why we take it for granted that it was Israel or Mossad that used those passports or the identities of that British citizen, yes or no. It's just not correct. Why are we in such a hurry to take all kinds of tasks upon ourselves?" Lieberman told Israel's Army Radio. He was speaking after details in the case began to point back to Israel. Seven Israelis with dual foreign citizenship, six of them apparently Britons and one American, had their identities stolen to be used in the forged passports relied on by the suspected assassins. The seven, who appear unconnected, have denied any involvement in the affair and say they have no idea how their identities were stolen. Dubai police released on Monday the passport details of 11 people – six from Britain, three from Ireland and one each from France and Germany – that they said were behind the killing of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, who was murdered in his Dubai hotel room last month. The New York Times reported this morning that the hit team included a total of 17 people, six of whom had not yet been identified. Some Israeli commentators delivered the first criticisms of Mossad today , saying the operation was beginning to look like a blunder. One even called on the Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, to resign and suggested the incident could provoke a diplomatic row with Britain over the use of forged British passports. Sir Menzies Campbell, the former Liberal Democrat leader who is also a member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, said Israel's ambassador in the UK should be summoned to the Foreign Office immediately. "If the Israeli government was party to behaviour of this kind it would be a serious violation of trust between nations," he said. "If legitimate British passport holders were put at risk it would be a disgrace. Given the current speculation, the Israeli government has some explaining to do and the ambassador should be summoned to the Foreign Office to do so in double-quick time." A Tory MP, Hugo Swire, chairman of the Conservative Middle East council, also demanded a "full investigation". In 1987, Britain protested to Israel about what it said was the misuse by Israeli authorities of forged British passports and said it received assurances steps had been taken to prevent future occurrences. But Lieberman said he believed that relations with Britain would not be damaged. "I think Britain recognises that Israel is a responsible country and that our security activity is conducted according to very clear, cautious and responsible rules of the game. Therefore we have no cause for concern," he said. Rafi Eitan, a former Israeli minister and intelligence officer, told Army Radio that Mossad was not behind the killing and that a foreign organisation was trying to frame Israel. There was a mixture of praise and criticism of the Mossad in the Israeli press. Yossi Melman, a respected security correspondent for Ha'aretz, said the agency had used forged passports on operations in the past and noted that in this case all the "operatives" involved in the assassination left Dubai safely without being caught. "As such, unless dramatic evidence is found to definitively prove an Israeli connection, it is likely that the State of Israel will emerge from this affair unblemished and Mossad will continue enjoying a reputation of fearless determination and nearly unstoppable capabilities," Melman wrote. However, another Ha'aretz columnist, Amir Oren, said there were now "enormous question marks" over the operation and said the Mossad chief, Meir Dagan, who he described as "belligerent and heavy-handed," should resign. He said the case would likely bring a diplomatic crisis for Israel and added: "Even if whoever carried out the assassination does reach some kind of arrangement with the infuriated western nations, it still has an obligation to its own citizens." Ben Caspit, in the Ma'ariv newspaper, described the incident as "a tactical operational success, but a strategic failure". "When it becomes apparent that the passports belong to innocent Israeli citizens, who will now be subject to an international manhunt by Interpol, the embarrassment is great," he wrote. In Austria, the interior ministry said it had launched an investigation into the suspected use of at least seven mobile phones with pre-paid Austrian chips by Mabhouh's killers. The killers reportedly never made direct phone calls to each other but dialled into a communications centre in Austria - described by Dubai as the "command centre" for the operation.
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Hallmarks of a classic Israeli operation By Ben Lynfield in Jerusalem REX FEATURES Was Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, behind the assassination in Dubai? Israel had the strongest motive to kill Mr Mabhouh, and a series of declarations by former Mossad staff yesterday admiring the '"professionalism" of the hit certainly point in that direction. Mossad, which in Hebrew stands for the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations, is in charge of overseas espionage and covert operations. The agency's modus operandi has in the past included audacious overseas sting operations such as the plot to seize Mordechai Vanunu, the man who revealed Israel's nuclear secrets to the British press. An Israeli female agent called Cindy was the "honey trap" who lured Vanunu on a romantic assignation to Rome, from where he was taken to Israel for trial. But Mossad has had its share of failures, including a bungled attempt to assassinate Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal in 1997, after which two agents carrying forged Canadian passports were arrested in Amman. Surveillance videos shown by the Dubai police indicate that the 11 suspects achieved remarkable penetration. They were in and out of Dubai in less than 19 hours A former operative said the operation appeared meticulously planned and executed. "This was super-, super-professional." he said. "It seems logical that this was a Mossad operation." he said. It would not be surprising, he added, if other "positively inclined" countries had helped Israel. Egypt, which shares Israel's animosity to Hamas, may also have been involved he said. The former Mossad agent said strangulation could have been used to avoid the risk of bringing a firearm into the country. It was not unusual to have such a large number of people involved in the slaying, he said. "Considering you have surveillance, security and a rescue force this is a reasonable number." Yossi Melman, author of a history of the Israeli intelligence service, said: "MI6 or the CIA would do the same. Disguises, fictitious names, arriving from different directions, taking flights in a circuitous way, changing clothes – all these are the trademarks of a professional intelligence organisation." But another former Mossad agent, Rami Yigal, said it "does not look like an Israeli operation" because of careless shortcuts such as allowing members of the team to be taped by hotel or airport CCTV in Dubai. Nevertheless, Israel considered Mr Mabhouh the key person in the smuggling of weaponry from Iran to Hamas in the Gaza Strip. It also had a longstanding account with him since he boasted of killing two Israeli soldiers Ilan Saadon and Avi Sasportas in 1989.
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The blame game starts. "it was not me" won't do.
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^^^Blessed adeer, no need to get hot over Dubai, our difference on this topic is a simple one, without local help the mission to take out the big boy would not have been such a success. Thats all. You on the other hand, think I am somehow attacking Dubai, by statting the obvious? Come on, and that Shiekh dude is a simple example, if he beat the hell out of a fellow Muslim because he was such a nutter. Then why do you find it hard that little Dubai is awash with western spies?
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Not many...
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^^^You monk , dont you know , Radioactive attack is so 2006, its also highly traceable. They did it old school, and it worked.
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^^^He had second thoughts no doubt. "Baby I was sleeping, I had a nightmare, that you slept with Ali Jama and send the text, forgive me "
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^^^NGOONGE, you and I could not take out a fly. As for the mission, I agree most of the hard work was done prior, the intelligence gathering was spot on. The fact that they took a top prize with such ease and did not even use heavy weapons, and disturb the neighbors shows the level of skill employed. However you are a Somali, you wanted a big shoot out with bombs and technical’s and screaming fake Sheikhs.
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^^^The Audacity of it all, to take out a top man, in his own Arab backyard and het away.. NGOONGE you have to admit it was not easy.. Blessed: Adeer, two top leaders were killed in the city. This is a fact. How did the assassins they get all that valuable Intel? No doubt with local help and support. Most spy agencies have local Arab informers; even the Mossad has many Palestinian informants. Again we are dealing with facts. Was it not a top “Shiekh” of the UAE, who was video taped torturing a fellow Muslim for a western power?
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^^^Sis most of the time, without local spies and support these operation could not even be undertaken. Dubai is a soft spot..