^^^Yeah and Africa has the AU. Which has not had any economic clout yet. However the biggest change will be when there is inter continental trade, thats when the continent economies will boom.

Africans need to come together and stop looking to the west or east for assistance. Exporting commodities is not looking for assistance, things have improved a great deal. Also no one will get hold of African Markets, and how on earth can a contenent come together? XXXX= Somali's will get hold of East African markets..

^^^lol. A&T, hates his kinsmen for being free men. Now go get edoo Bisharo from JB & Oodweyne..

^^^One needs to stop wanting to be a victim. Africa is exporting its commodities to China, India , EU and will get cash. No more UN, rations. The Western fear of China is well noted.

China helps Africa where West failed -state bank Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:34am EDTBEIJING, Oct 18 (Reuters) - China is spreading prosperity in Africa where the West failed, a Chinese bank official said on Thursday in a sharp rebuke to critics of his country's growing role in the world's poorest continent. Li Ruogu, president of China's state-owned Export-Import Bank, key funder of China's push into Africa, said roads and radios were more urgent needs for Africans than human rights and freedom, and that China was delivering such concrete benefits. "Western colonialism over 400 years in Africa did not bring any development and wealth," Li said. "But China has brought many benefits to Africa." After $50 billion in debt write-offs for impoverished countries mainly in Africa last year, Western donors fear China's expanding economic links with the continent could lead to a build-up in burdensome debts all over again. Speaking in Chinese during a meeting on the sidelines of China's Communist Party Congress, Li switched to English momentarily to characterise Western criticism as "totally groundless and totally fabrication". Lack of transparency from China on details of its investments and aid in Africa has also alarmed Western donors, who have watched China become a major investor in countries such as Angola and Sudan that are accused of violating human rights. "Western countries talk about human rights and freedom every day, but if the people there can't even watch television or listen to radio, how can they enjoy human rights and freedom?" Li said. China has recently claimed credit for persuading Sudan to accept U.N peacekeepers in the troubled Darfur region and it has won praise from the United States for its "constructive role" in dealings with Khartoum. ExIm Bank has also been working to address some concerns of international donors, signing a Memorandum of Understanding with the World Bank earlier this year to improve coordination of development projects. As one of China's three policy lenders that make loans explicitly in support of government policies, ExIm Bank has invested in some 300 projects across Africa with a focus on building roads, railways, ports and mines. China argues its own rapid growth and experience in lifting more than 400 million people out of poverty over past 20 years could provide valuable lessons to Africans. "I visited Africa 11 times within two years, and I can feel the strong desire of African people and governments to develop the local economy and cooperate with China", he said.

Sister, it’s absurd to compare today’s world to that of the cold war. Today China holds a great deal of US treasury bonds, its economy is integrated into the global one and trades well with the EU, and the US. This is not the old USSR and the world is less ideologically driven as you can clearly see from all the Parada & Gucci stores in Shanghai. You mentioned that the Africans, need to take action, without being specific, did I mention that we need to wish for things and the fairies will deliver the goods? No action is being taken, and my point, simple as it is you have yet to grasp. Africa today has alternatives to the west, our commodities have new markets and this is important. The western media can never be taken seriously with all its cries of China is exploiting Africa. They are afraid that the continent they dominated so much is now coming of age. Africa does not need hand outs, or UN nonsense programs, it needs to take its commodities to world markets and get cash. It needs to sell things that are useful to the world. Look at the Gulf nations? They have developed because of the export of oil, well Angola, DRC, and even Somalia has great deal of oil, gas, natural minerals fish and strategic locations. Thus my argument is simple; the emergence of India & China will help the African continent emerge from the darkness. The cries of the west can not be taken seriously, African nations need to export more of its commodities, in order to create jobs and develop their nation’s infrastructures. Playing China against the west gives the continent the perfect opportunity to do so.

A&T adeer we have a free electoral college system. Thus far it has brought change. You need to learn how to swap the prison wardens around, you are unable to even bring 60 men with their familes to agree to stop putting their kinsmen in Ethiopian, Kenyan or Al Shabaab prisons.

Most men would love to do it. Most women would not, thats the problem here. However if its done correctly like anything, it has its benefits. Lets not get personal people and stick to the topic.

^^^Faroole is a man, and as such can be insulted, one is not here to defend him. However he is not a prison warden for the Ethiopians, nor leads a clan rebel group, trying to free prisoners from their prison wardens. He was elected, and when the time comes will stand for election on time.

Masha Allah, congratulations brother, hope the baby & mother are doing well.

Qhalib, no doubt named after Omar Arte, the original two faced Northerner. Brother, Riyaale’s dictatorship is unacceptable. He has illegally extended his term, increased the level of corruption and created unnecessary clan tensions. The secessionist seem to be beating their chest & saber rattling for recognition, while not recognizing the long term impact of Riyaale’s mugging. Now I know you find it funny, but answer me this, when will the election that was scheduled for April 2008 be held?

^^^Riyaale is the supreme Mugger no doubt, but his criminal actions are hurting the people of Hargaysa. I hope it eases and they can have their long awaited election.

^^^ Yes the people of LA, SSC are my kin, and Xansade is dancing with Riyaale to subdue the ill mannered SNM. My country is still recognised by the world and however bad it is I am proud to be a Somali, from Somalia. You on the other hand is just trying to hide your dad Riyaale's looting, and Mugging the poor folks. Dont worry lad the man is doing a great job in Hargaysa, living in Morgan's house. Which is your Presidential palace

Napoleon you are looking for trouble lad.

^^^I have seen it, it was average..

Noam Chomsky has no credibility today. No one listens to him Adeer, forget listening to him lad, he is the most quoted professor in the United States. Oh well peace now knows more than all of us, since he purchased tea or was that Coffe for a stranded Somali in Milan. As for Israel, I doubt you know the states history that well, and no one is attacking the Jewish state. Stick to the theme of the thread lad.

Originally posted by Sacad *Ducaale: Xudeedi, calm down waan ku qaldamay i corrected the pic now. Yeah right

Is that Edna Adan in the pic?

Not sure adeer... Sacad, you are having a laugh. The secessionist claims are as ludicrous as the upcoming election of April 2008. But hey you keep coveting other peoples land, and thats your great weakness lad. You dont have the power to get rid of Dahir Riyaale Kahin, trust me you dont hace the power to stop Somaliweyn, it will come again.

you got to love the british system. She has used the system. While the indigenous, aboriginal [you got to love the BNP] are unable to manage as well as these Somali women. Thus its not her fault that some British aboriginals are starving, its the systems fault.

never said Baraxley was part of puntland i said when will Galckayo have 1 admin instead of two sides galmudug and puntland lol, Galkacyu is no different to, Soux City [which strides 3 states] or Kansan city [which has two], but being a bright fellow you know that both South Somalia & Puntland are part of the Somali republic? Also if Baraxlay is not part of Puntland, why would Faroole want to bring it under his leadership?, You are not making much sense lad. As for Ceerigabo, that’s your claim son, most of the city does not come under your rule not recognize secessionists, but there you go again coveting some else’s land. Now when will the April 2008 elections take place?

^^^Again how is it her fault?

Ladies If you love your husband enough, you could learn to accept such minor inconvenience.

^^^lool. He is the President of the state of Puntland. LA is keeping the SNM mugged for Riyaale. Baraxlay [southern] was never part of Puntland .. But hey we have another secessionist who is waiting for the election of April 2008 to be held.

Originally posted by Juxa: i mean next is all those british people unable to buy rooti and the state wont assist them And thats her fault how?