^^^I predicted long ago they wont be able to go past Guriceel, and thus have not. Again read my lips their days are numbered. What happened to the great Ramadan offensive?

Ra´isalwasaaraha Cusub oo qaladkii u horeeyey Galey,kana soo saarey warsaxaafadeed Posted by admin on October 19th, 2010 Muqdisho(Puntlandi.com) Ra’iisalwasaaraha Soomaaliya ee hada xilka loo magacaabeyMohamed Farmaajo ayaa warsaxaafadeed uu soo saarey saaka sheegey in si qaldan loo fasirtey hadalkiisii uu shaley sheegey inuusan aqoon meesha uu ku qoranyahey sharciga dhigaya 4.5 uusana kusoo dhiseyn golihiisa wasiirada, Hadalkaan kasoo yeerey Ra’isalwasaaraha ayaa ahaa mid lid ku ah axdiga lagusoo dhisey Dowlada Kumeelgaarka ah, tasoo keentey in markiiba Ra´iisalwasaare Farmaajo uu raali galin ka bixiyo hadalka kasoo yeerey afkiisa. Warsaxaafadeed ka soo baxey Xafiiska Ra´isal wasaaraha ayaa Ra´isalwasaarhu ku tilmaamey in nidaamka 4.5 sida uu u sheegey shaley si aan aheyn loo turjuntey,” Ujeedadeydu waxey aheyd inaan cadeeyo in sharcigaan qaldan yahey” ayuu kusoo qorey Ra’iisalwasaaruhu warsaxaafadeedkaan. Shaley ayaa R´’iisalwasare Farmaajo sheegey inuusan aqoonsaneyn Nidaamka afar dhibic shan 4.5, taasoo dhalisey in siyaasiyiin ka tirsan Baarlamaanka ay markiiba hadalo kulul ka bixiyaan, kuna tilmaamaan in Ra’iisalwasaaruhu uu ku xadgudbey sharciga. Nidaamkaan 4.5 ayaa ah kan ay ku dhisantahey Dowlada Kumeel gaarka ah Puntlandi.com ayaa shaley soo bandhigey khudbada uu ra’isalwasaaruhu hadalkaan ku yiri khudbadii Raiisalwasaaraha oo aan shaley soo gudbiney iyadoo maqal ah ka dhageyso halkaan hoose

Last month, Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Johnnie Carson announced a subtle, but significant, shift in U.S. Somali policy that would include not just more active engagement of the governments of Somaliland and Puntland, but also outreached to "groups in south central Somalia, groups in local governments, clans, and sub-clans that are opposed to Al-Shabaab, the radical extremist group in the south, but are not allied formally or directly with the TFG." This week he is expected to deliver a major policy speech further detailing the "dual-track" approach. The rearranging-of-the-chairs-on-the-decks-of-the-Titanic nature of the new TFG prime minister's appointment underscores the need to strengthen the second track of U.S. policy in order to secure viable pathways for achieving America's strategic objectives and those of its allies. While, for the sake of security in Somalia, stability in the Horn of Africa, and overall international order, one hopes that Farmajo may actually accomplish more than his hapless predecessors in the fifteen interim Somali regimes that have existed since 1991, in statecraft it is generally not prudent to count on miracles happening. And, given the enormous challenges the new prime minister faces—to say nothing about his rather flawed record to date—a backup plan is definitely called for.

One could even overlook all these defects if Farmajo actually brought something to the TFG, but he doesn't. Having lived outside Somalia for nearly half his life and visited the country only once in the last quarter-century, it is highly doubtful that he brings much to the regime by way of actual political constituency or military strength. His ancestral region of Gedo—where he has never lived—lies outside the control of the TFG, although expect the regime's propagandists to make a great deal of the fact that forces aligned with it took the deserted border village of Bulo Hawo there from al-Shabaab over the weekend. President Abdirahman Mohamed Mohamud "Farole" of autonomous Puntland in northeastern Somalia, where the bulk of the ***** clan-family is based, has let it be known widely that he was not consulted by Sharif Ahmed on the appointment, a fact which, when coupled with the fact that the new prime minister replaces a native son of the territory, will make it all the more difficult to restrain the region's growing secessionist impulses. In fact, Farole's minister of state planning and international cooperation, Abdulkadir Abdi Hashi, complained on the BBC's Somali Service that far from forming a government of national unity, Sharif Ahmed had consolidated control of the three highest offices—president, prime minister, and parliamentary speaker—within the former Islamic Courts Union and among southerners in violation of the traditional national consensus. As for Somaliland, given his unabashed admiration for its citizens' erstwhile chief persecutor, Siyad Barre, Farmajo is unlikely to make much headway conciliating with them even if they were predisposed to reenter the Somali charnel house—and they are not. Abroad, what positive impact the appointment might have is likewise questionable. Certainly the "former diplomat" will need to be much more diplomatic in his choice of words if he is not to alienate the principal regional and international backers of the TFG. To be successful, any aspiring Somali leader had best be on good terms—or, at the very least, have a decent working relationship—with his Ethiopian and Kenyan counterparts. Someone who describes Soviet arms shipments to Siyad Barre as "military hardware to protect the Somali population in Kenya and Ethiopia" and asserts that "the main dream" of Somalis is "to be unified, including those living under Ethiopian and Kenyan rule"is unlikely to reassure Somalia's neighbors that he has moved beyond the sort of Somali irredentism that has historically proven so poisonous to regional integration. Apart from the dubious personal merits of the new prime minister

by J. Peter Pham, Ph.D. World Defense Review columnist Somalia's New Prime Minister: Not Quite What the Doctor Ordered Just when it seems things can get no worse for Somalia's dubiously legitimate, utterly ineffective, and wholly self-serving "Transitional Federal Government" (TFG), the embattled clique pulls a surprise by sinking even deeper into the mire and, in the process, prolonging the agony of the Somali people and threatening the security and stability of both neighboring countries and the international community as a whole. Such was the case last week with the announcement of the nomination of Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed "Farmajo" as prime minister of the phantom "government" that, even backed by more than 7,000 foreign troops, cannot even show its face in more than half of the sixteen districts of its putative capital city. If his record is anything to go by, the only people the new prime minister will hearten—other than members of the Islamist insurgency fighting the TFG—will be invincibly delusional outsiders who still stubbornly cling to the fantasy of restoring a united Somalia under the interim regime. If the fact that TFG head Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed took more than three weeks to find a new prime minister after forcing out the previous incumbent, Omar Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke, was not sufficient indication that something was amiss, the fact that his eventual nominee is a mediocrity with little experience in national politics—to say nothing of international relations—should have set off alarms. Certainly a closer examination of the new appointee's background raises some serious concerns for those who cared to look beyond the positive spin fed to media outlets that ran off with headlines like "New Somali Prime Minister's 'Experience' Praised by Analyst" (Voice of America) and gushed about the alleged "conflict resolution and leadership skills" of the "former diplomat" (Associated Press). Farmajo was born in Mogadishu in 1962. His family, members of the ******* clan of the ***** clan-family, was originally from Gedo. That lineage was to prove decisive, both for his career to date and, as will be evident, his geopolitical Weltanschauung.

Sabriye adeer, trust me Puntland will not go anywhere, it is now Somalia itself. Its Sharif Hotel who is protected by 7000 AMISOM troops who is the liability and will go soon enough. Puntland has the recognition of the worlds only super power, and it does not need poor old Saabriye at all. Little warlord Abdi Shukri has just ignited a clan war by attacking Cadaado and there is nothing you can do about it. So again mind your language, and be careful how you speak.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: faroole ba u hanjabay mr cheese Even individual mistakes are now attributed to Puntland.. What power.

Originally posted by Sabriye & co.: Dukey, did you listen to his speach or did you read from allpuntland again? No I read his press statement today that tried to clarify what I heard him say in front of Tarzan & Yarisow yesterday. Now its Allpuntland fault for forcing him to make a statement yesterday that in fact we found out was illegal.

Yesterday he was against the 4.5 formula... “Wax la yiraahdo 4.5 waa ma jirto, dadkuna waa siman yihiin Alle agtiisna waa siman yihiin, qof walaalkay ahna kuma diidayo qabiil, qof kalena kuma fogeynayo” Today he declares... "Aniga 4.5 maanan diidin si qaldan ayaana loo fasiray waxaan kaliyah aan soo hadal qaaday sida uu yahay nidaamkaasi, saxaafada ayaa buun buunisay waxaana rajeynayaa in baarlamaanka uu fahansanyahay arrinkaasi" ayuu yiri.

^^^Its not my fault you are unable to comprehend.

^^^Now again lad, don’t confuse yourself. The man stated yesterday that he would not base his cabinet selection on the 4.5 formula and then today he backtracked and stated that indeed the 4.5 is the legal formula that will be used for the selection of his cabinet.

Originally posted by Sabriye & co.: oo hadee baxaan xagee aadayaan? lol Are you talking to the people, who now rule more than 1/3 of Somalia and 50% of its coastline, who have in the past 12 years build cities from scratch. Who have put their political system in order and overcame internal disputes as well as external threats from clan mongers and extremist fake Jihadi’s? The largest real estate today in all the lands of the Somali's, that is at peace, with the beloved blue flag flying high is Puntland. No adeer Puntland does not need to go anywhere, its you who has to fix his own house before crying out. You can not even contain little Abdi Shukri and you come here talking big?

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Max'ed Cabdi Yuusuf faraha ka qaad. Kuwa kaale meesha aad kusoo dhajisay haddii la isku wada daro ma gaaraan halyeygaas. Adeer who has not Mohamed Abdi Yusuf? You seem forever lost in your own hype; just because you met him it makes him a "great person" who loves his country? In fact he seems like a man out of touch with reality at times. You happen to think that Sharif Xasan, & Ibbi were among the greatest nationalist of all times. Yet were they not the ones who tried real hard to sell the sea shelf to Kenya? Again, Ghandi was the man who used to say there was no clan a few years back, and a few months came to Minneapolis and collected money from his sub clan. Somali politics is wonderful.

Waxa uu sheegay in nidaamkaasi loo dejiyey sidii xal loogu heli lahaa in awooda dalka lagu qeybsado xiligaan adag ee dalka balse ay Soomaaliya ka gudbi doonto marka la xasiliyo dalka Soomaaliya. "Aniga 4.5 maanan diidin si qaldan ayaana loo fasiray waxaan kaliyah aan soo hadal qaaday sida uu yahay nidaamkaasi, saxaafada ayaa buun buunisay waxaana rajeynayaa in baarlamaanka uu fahansanyahay arrinkaasi" ayuu yiri. Dhinaca kale waxaa uu ka codsaday baarlamaanka in ay sida ugu dhaqsaha badan u ansixiyaan isaga si uu isna usoo magacaabo golaha cusub ee wasiirada.

^^^ Che, Farmaajo got himself in trouble for no reason. Why was he trying to impress the old ladies? Both remarks he made about the 4.5 and women representation were right, but why did he pledge to do something about it when he knew he could not? It does make him look cnfused or even ignorant.

Raysalwasaaraha Dawladda Federaalka Soomaaliya Mudane Maxamed Cabdullaahi Maxamed (Farmaajo) ayaa sheegay kulankii maalintii Isniinta uu la qaatey haweenka Soomaaliyeed, hadal uu ka jeediyey halkaas oo ku sabsanaa habqaybsiga awoodda dawladda ee ku dhisan 4 beelood iyo bar ama 4.5 in loo fasirtey qaab aan ahayn ama ka fog ulajeedadiisi. Warsaxaafadeed ka soo baxay xafiiska Raysalwasaaraha ayaa lagu yiri “…Ujeedadeydu waxay ahayd inaan sheego in hanaanka qaybsiga qabaa’ilka ee 4.5 uusan ahayn mid xaq ah, balse uu yahay xilligan dalku ku jiro colaadaha mid xal ah, isla markaana ku qeexan dastuurka…”. Raysalwasaaraha ayaa sheegay in haddii baarlamaanku siiyo kalsoonida uu ku hawlgeli doono Axdi Qarameedka kumeelgaarka ah. Raysalwasaare Farmaajo ayaa sheegay in uu qabo in mustaqbalka loo gudbo nidaam caddaalad & dimoqraadiyad ku dhisan, Balse inta laga gaarayo taas uu ku qanacsan yahay Axdi Qarameedka kumeelgaarka ah. Arintan ayaa imaaneysa kadib markii Raysalwasaaruhu uu ka sheegay kulan uu la qaatey haweenka Soomaaliyeed in aanu dawladiisa ku soo dhiseyn nidaamka 4.5 kaas oo axdiga kumeelgaarka ah dhigaayo, waxaana dadka qaarkiis u fasireen in Raysalwasaaruhu durba der-deray axdigii iyo nidaamkii raysalwasaaraha lagu soo xushey. Horseed Media

No doubt his handlers were not happy.

A bold move indeed.

Horn no one can defend the .5 nonsense but the fact is this formula was meant for the "big" and heavily armed clans and on a way it did make them equal in representation. We shall see what he does and revisit this page.

You are better than that lad, I thought you meant I was avoiding saying my cousins failed? I named Sharmarke here and that he failed as the PM, then I mentioned Jangeli a kin of mine, as well as Ghandi and Xiddig, but you got upset because you saw Xiddig and Ghandi and because they are a few branchse closer you thought I was attacking the sub clan my bad. Ok Farmaaje, will you rename These failed men in your cabinet Jurile Jengeli Ciro Xasan Abshir Mohamed Abdi Yusuf [Failed Puntlander] Zakaria Haji Mohamoud ? kindly go ahead and get upset at any name that I forgot from my sub clan. Now will Farmaage pick the old failed names, notably Ibbi one of my favourite clowns and Tarzan, Yarisow my old friends fe London. I know them very well Zack, Ghandi is also a big clown he went from being like Noam Chomsky to Barre Hiraale.

^^ Adeer don't worry about reer Cadaado, my connections to them are as deep as Garowe. So let's not pretend as for the nepotisam of the Siyad age, we know how that failed 1.0 system worked out. Now I don't much care for the 4.5 thing and as we have highlighted it came about in the Arta meeting. Nothing to do with Puntland and later was used to make things simple since no clan had a census and so far had worked. Now in a practicle sense. what will he replace it with or will he just say there is no .5 clan and we have 5 major clans? This is what we want to see now and indeed a bold move and good talk so let's see how it goes and more importantly let's see the new names that will comprise the cabinet of Farmaaje.

You are still stuck on third gear read again lad. Garowe did not fail, it's in fact held lections, had smooth transfer of power and destroyed an Al Shabaab cell in it's mist. Garowe has been recognized by the world powers as an integral part of Somalia's decesion makers. No Adeer I mentioned the cousins that came into my mind and I mentioned Sharmarke as well, but alas you are trying to score a goal when you are unable to control the ball. Again do read.

^^^ Why do you have to mention his fore fathers name if clan is not important to you? Why do you support and idolize a failed warlord like Hiiraale if clan is not important to you? Why do you come here and mention Mohamed Siyad Barre's selection of Ali Smatar when we know what a failure that was ? If there was 4.5 in Siyad days you would not have had, Maslah, Xoosh Abdi, ilma Haji Masaale Hebel Bidaar Abdirahman Jama Barre, Mama Khadija and all those Nomads who attained the title of Colonel and Genetal strught from the bush. Was it not Siyad Barre who allowed his clan to use the army to destroy Cadaado? which goes along way to explain to this day why you are so shook from that clan. Was it not Siyad Barre who in all the history of Somali's used the army to target Somali civilians and clans? Gabbal do noot lecture us as if we were born yesterday and we shall see this man and his cabinet.

^^^ Dont embarras yourself lad, Puntland has welcomed the new PM and even stated it's position before the appointment of Sharmarke. Remember the Midnimo Qaran crap? Oh I am sorry I am talking to a scessionist who thought Shabelle spin of the news on this thread was an actual press release from Puntland!

Originally posted by General Duke: Mr Farmaajo's bold declerations today were most welcome however one needs to know.. Will any of these names return; the failures like Ghandi Xiddig, , Jingeli etc. [/i] but can he get rid of these individuals who were part of the failed government of Sharmarke? [/b] As usual our Zack & the ever excitable Allamagan areunable to read basic text. I have bolded for you where I mentioned my kinsmen. I know Zack read Only read Ghandi and Xiddig two exeptional failures and Allamagan is worried he got too carried away with his joy. Now try again.