^^^The tools, nor the methods are important, it is the lord who chooses winners.

^^^No Allah has bestowed it on them, what kind of question is that?

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^The sister is still angry..Calm down love. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So derogatory ... CG how so? :rolleyes: ME, that was a nice one.

^^^That was agreat peace. He made peace with Aydeed, which saved the whole of Mudug from war. He made peace with Cade Muse, which returned peace and unity to Puntland. He even tried to make peace with the warlords, and clan courts. When he fights he is deadly, but when he makes peace he keeps it. He is a decorated war hero and fought for Somalia in the 1964 and 1977-1978 wars. He also played a key role in the creation of the powerful Puntland state, which covers one third of Somalia. The apparent defeat of both the warlords and the Islamic Courts Union centred in Mogadishu has seen him become the internationally recognized de facto leader of Somalia.

^^^Its because of the system which we are in now. It will not be fair if someone from another clan replaces Sharif Xasan.In the future they will be able to run for any seat.

The TFG has the legal right, the moral one and the capacity to rule all of Somalia. It has brought all the country bar Somaliland under one rule. Thus our support in the dark days has not been in vain.

^^^The sister is still angry..Calm down love.

Abwan, next time check your facts, the dude is a tinpot dictator with one city under his rule. H einherited it from his Abti and even won an election run by himself. GeelJire, relations can change, Somalia has more land, natural resources and is more startegic than little Djibouti. Mr Gulleh be careful.

Ismaïl Omar Guelleh (Somali: Ismaaciil Cumar Geelle. Arabic: اسماعيل عُمر جليه) (born November 27, 1947 in Dire Dawa, Ethiopia[1]) is the second president of Djibouti. He succeeded his uncle, Hassan Gouled Aptidon, in 1999. Guelleh won the presidential election of April 1999 with 74% of the vote and took office on May 8.[2] In December 2000 he sacked the chief of staff of the National Police Force, Yacin Yabeh, who shortly afterward unsuccessfully attempted a coup.[3] He was the only candidate in the presidential election in Djibouti held on April 8, 2005.[4] Without a challenger, he won 100% of the ballots cast and was sworn in for a second six-year term, which he said will be his last, on May 7.[5]

^^^No one competed with Ismael Omar Gulleh, he ran by himself. If I remmeber. Any how there are no Courts any more, my friend you must be living in your own world.

^^^Saxib, Djibouti's tinpot leader needs to undertsand, that if he keeps playing with Somalias internal affairs, we will hold a reconciliation conference in Mogadishu to help our sister country form a broad based all inclusive government with the JLF, Afar groups and so on. Djibouti is not a utopia by any means.

I will try to answer your questions, taking into account diplomatic semantics. Question: a. To whom does “all parties” refer? All parties refer to all the major stakeholders in Somalia. These would include women, unarmed clans, armed factions as well as civil society. 2. In conclusion 2 the EU says they are “concerned by the current situation of the reconciliation process” and “urges the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society, as soon as possible” Questions: a. What is the “reconciliation process”? b. Why is there concern about the current situation of the reconciliation process? c. Why would the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society help alleviate their concern? a. The reconciliation process is the one that we have been in from the inception of the TFG. b. The concern arises from the fact that there has been heavy fighting, lately and the fact that there is a state of emergency as well as some , change is in the air and many, NGO’s , “Experts” are crying day and night because they have been proven wrong. c. This comes from the emergency laws passed, which they would like to see as being temporary. The EU, being a western entity would like the promotion of democracy and division of power as a prerequisite to support. I would add they will be pleased when the new speaker is elected, thus being democracy in action. 3. In the 5rd conclusion “the EU calls on the TFIs to solve their internal differences and to reach out to all Somalis of good will, in a spirit of national reconciliation” Questions: a. What are the TFIs and what are their “internal differences”? b. Why aren’t the TFIs reaching out to all Somalis of good will? a. The TFI, is the Transitional Federal Institutions, i.e. the government and its branches, parliament executive and judiciary. The internal differences is a misleading assumptions made with regards to the rogue MP’s and former speaker. Again the fact is that the parliament, executive and judiciary are united more so today than at any time. The issue of Sharif and some opposition MP’s is being addressed. b. They have been and have the support of most Somali’s. However they have been opposed by the armed factions, warlords and clan courts for the past two years. A matter which is coming to a conclusion. 4. In the 6th conclusion the EU states that “An inclusive broad based political process will offer the basis for further international support”. Question: a. Isn’t the TFG an “inclusive broad based political process”? If not, what has changed? If the TFG is an “inclusive broad based political process”, why is the EU calling for another one? The TFG is a broad based all inclusive entity, it is working to build local administration in every region taking into account all stakeholders, women groups, elders, religious and local clan leaders. Thus this is what they mean, make sure that all Somali’s play a role in local, state and federal governance of their country. That’s exactly what the TFG is following a broad based political process. I hope that clears up things..

I will try to answer your questions, taking into account diplomatic semantics. Question: a. To whom does “all parties” refer? All parties refer to all the major stakeholders in Somalia. These would include women, unarmed clans, armed factions as well as civil society. 2. In conclusion 2 the EU says they are “concerned by the current situation of the reconciliation process” and “urges the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society, as soon as possible” Questions: a. What is the “reconciliation process”? b. Why is there concern about the current situation of the reconciliation process? c. Why would the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society help alleviate their concern? a. The reconciliation process is the one that we have been in from the inception of the TFG. b. The concern arises from the fact that there has been heavy fighting, lately and the fact that there is a state of emergency as well as some , change is in the air and many, NGO’s , “Experts” are crying day and night because they have been proven wrong. c. This comes from the emergency laws passed, which they would like to see as being temporary. The EU, being a western entity would like the promotion of democracy and division of power as a prerequisite to support. I would add they will be pleased when the new speaker is elected, thus being democracy in action. 3. In the 5rd conclusion “the EU calls on the TFIs to solve their internal differences and to reach out to all Somalis of good will, in a spirit of national reconciliation” Questions: a. What are the TFIs and what are their “internal differences”? b. Why aren’t the TFIs reaching out to all Somalis of good will? a. The TFI, is the Transitional Federal Institutions, i.e. the government and its branches, parliament executive and judiciary. The internal differences is a misleading assumptions made with regards to the rogue MP’s and former speaker. Again the fact is that the parliament, executive and judiciary are united more so today than at any time. The issue of Sharif and some opposition MP’s is being addressed. b. They have been and have the support of most Somali’s. However they have been opposed by the armed factions, warlords and clan courts for the past two years. A matter which is coming to a conclusion. 4. In the 6th conclusion the EU states that “An inclusive broad based political process will offer the basis for further international support”. Question: a. Isn’t the TFG an “inclusive broad based political process”? If not, what has changed? If the TFG is an “inclusive broad based political process”, why is the EU calling for another one? The TFG is a broad based all inclusive entity, it is working to build local administration in every region taking into account all stakeholders, women groups, elders, religious and local clan leaders. Thus this is what they mean, make sure that all Somali’s play a role in local, state and federal governance of their country. That’s exactly what the TFG is following a broad based political process. I hope that clears up things..

Tartanka G.Barlamanka DF oo bilowdey 22 Jan 22, 2007, 08:59 Waxaa maanta magacyadooda gudbiyay sadax musharax oo la hadal hayo in ay u tartami doonaan xilka guddoomiyenimo ee Barlamaanka Federaalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya. Mas’uuliyiinta maanta guddiga doorashada guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka u gudbiyay magacyadooda ayaa waxaa ka mid ah xildhibaan Ibraahim Kiish-Buur, AVV.Axed Ibraahim iyo Wasiirul Dowlaha Qorsheynta iyo Iskaashiga Sh. Aadan Madeer, xubnahan ayaa rajo ka qaba in ay helaan codka kalsoonida xildhibaanada Somaliyeed inkastoo ay jiraan musharaxiin kale oo weli aan gudbin magacyadooda. Xubnaha la hadal hayo oo aan magacyadooda weli gudbin maanta ayaa waxaa ka mid ah Sheekh Aadan Madoobe. Madoobe ayaa ka haya DFKMG ah xil wasiirnimo oo muhiim ah iyada oo la filayo hadii magaciisa gudbiyo uu iska casili doono xilalkaas. Cali Muxayadiin Cali,GO

Mucaaridka dowlada Jabuuti oo Baaq Taageero ah u Diray Dowlada Federaalka Somaliya Last Updated::2007-01-22 12:20:20 HRNet:- Xisbiga Mucaaridka ah ee dalka Jabuuti ee (Jabuuti Leberation Front)ayaa baaq taageero ah u diray dowlada Somaliya. Cali Cabdullahi Iftin oo ah Wakiilka JLF ahna Xoghayaha Difaaca ee ururka Government in Exile ayaa warsaxaafadeed uu soo saaray ku sheegay inuu ugu hambalyeenayo Dowlada Federaalka la wareegida dalka Somaliya iyo guulihii ay kasoo hooyeen dagaaladii dhawaan ka dhacay dalka Soomaaliya, waa suu hadalka u dhigayee. Wuxuuna Mr.Iftin ugu mahadcaliyey Dowlada Itoobiya taageeradii ay u fidisay Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo sidii ay isaga difaaci lahayd kooxihii kasoo horjeeday. Cali Iftin ayaa sheegay in ururkiisa uu taageersan yahay Qorshihii Qaramada Midoobay ee dalka Somaliya in cunaqabteynta laga qaado isla markaana loo soo diro si deg deg ciidamo nabad illaalin ah. Dowladihii Walaaha Somaliya Qoraalka warsaxaafadeedka ee Xisbiga JLF ayaa lagu sheegay in wax laga xumaado ay tahay in Dowladihii Walaalaha la ahaa dalka Somaliya ay ku dhaqaaqaan ka shaqeyn majo xaabinta Dowladii Sharciga ahayd ee dalka iyo in la taageero kooxo kasoo horjeeda Dowladnimada dalka Somaliya. Dowlada Jabuuti ayaa ayadu horey si weyn uga hortimid in ciidamo nabad illaalin ah loo diro dalka Soomaaliya, ayadoo dowladaasi ay sidoo kale la sheegay in ay xiriir hoose la lahayd Maxaakiimtii Islaamiga ahaa ee la burburiyey. Cali Cabdullahi Iftin ayaa ugu baaqay shacabka Soomaaliyeed in ay la shaqeeyaan Dowlada Federaalka kana faa'iideystaan fursadan qaali ah oo uu sheegay in tahay tii ugu dhaweyd oo ay uga bixi karaan 16kii sano ee dowlad la'aanta ku jirtay dalka Soomaaliya.

ME, Shiekh Sharif is not a member of parliment, his position is filled by Geedi and Jeele who happen to be close kinsmen.

MKA-YOONIS Aden Madoobe would be good for the job but he filled the vacuum of the late Deerow I guess so he's content at the moment with his current job as constitutional minister, I guess although he was the 'original man' that was supported by the SRRC group in the run to the speaker of Parliament but he lost! So shaatiguduud or kishbuur, I would guess! I think it will be more likely Ibraahim kishbuur!

Camir I give all my support to ShatiGudud, the man who helped the TFG in its entire existance. He hails from the region and has the full support of his people. He is also considered to be the man who freed Bay and Bakool from the status of captive society.

Pardon lads I double posted..

source Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliyeed: Yaa U Qalma Xilkaas? Xassan Maxamednuur 'Shaati-Guduud'. Xaggee Baad Uga Soo Tagtey SouthWest State? Kiishbuur. Cilmi Kooban, Dambi Yar Iyo Waaya-Aragnimo Gaaban. Baydhabo. Magaalada Baydhabo Waxaay Noqotey Caasimaddii Soomaaliya Ka Dib Markii Dowladdu Ay Ku Soo Guurtey. Ku Soo Guurtey.01/21/07 Eng. Abdulkadir Khalif Waxaan aad iyo aad iiga farxiyey in ugu dambayntii xilkii Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliyeed laga qaadey ninkii mudada dheer caqabad ku ahaa nabadda iyo diimoqaraatiyada Soomaaliya (Shariif Xassan Sheekh Aadan). Waxaa iminka muhiim ah in si xilkasnimo ah loo guda galo qofkii lugu bedeli lahaa Shariifka, qofkaas oo beesha uu ka soo jeedo ka sokoow loo eegayo wadaninimadiisa, culuuntiisa, war-tarkiisa iyo weliba waaya-aragnimadiisa. Waxaa muhiim ah in markii ugu horeeyso la ogaado in u-tartamayaasha xilkaasi ay ogyihiin micnihii jagadaas iyo wixii looga baahanyahay in uu qabto qofka xilka loo dooran doona. Waxaa lagama-maarmaan ah in qofkaas uu ogaado in Guddoomiyanimada Baarlamaanka ay eheen jago la barbar dhigi karo tan Madaxweynaha ama Ra’iisul-Wazaaraha oo xilkii qofkaas uu ku egyahay oo keli ah Aqalka Baarlamaanka oo markii uu ka soo baxo Aqalkaasina uu yahay Mudane caadi ah. Waxaa muhiim ah in lakala ilaaliyo howlaha Dowladda iyo tan Baarlamaanka si ay u dhicin mar kale in qof kasta oo xil loo dhiibaa uusan meeshii uu doono ka yeero.

Madaxweynaha Dowlada Sudan Omar Al Bashiir ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in dowladiisa ay taageeri doonto Dowlada Federaalka ee kumeel Gaarka ah ee Somaliya. Madaxweyne Al Bashiir ayaa kulan khaas ah la yeeshay Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Somaliya Prof.Cali Maxamed Geedi oo safar ku jooga dalkaasi. Labada hogaamiye ayaa ka wada hadlay sidii ay isaga kaashan lahaayeen arrimaha amniga iyo waliba sidii ay Xukuumada Sudan uga qeyb qaadan lahayd taageerida Dowlada Somaliyeed. [...Waxaan kuu xaqiijinayaa in Xukuumada Sudan ay taageero walba oo ay heli karto la garab istaagi doonto Dowlada Somaliya...] ayuu yiri Madaxweynaha Sudan Omar Al Bashiir oo la hadlayey Prof.Geedi. Ra'iisul Wasaare Geedi iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Sudan Mohamed Ibrahim Al-Tahir Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Somaliya Cali Maxamed Geedi ayaa safar sadex maalmood ah ku yimid Sabtidii lasoo dhaafay magaalada Khartuum ee caasimada dalka Sudan. Safaarada Sudan Dowlada Sudan ayaa sidoo kale sheegtay in ay dib u furi doonto Safaaradii ay ku lahayd dalka Somaaliya, waana markii ugu horeysay oo uu dalka Sudan soo hadal qaado dib u furida xiriirkii Dib lumaasiyeed ee rasmiga ahaa ee uu la lahaa dalka Somaliya. Jaamacada Carabta Cali Geedi ayaa intuu uu joogay Khartuum sidoo kale la kulmay Madaxweyne kuxigeenka Ali Osman Taha, Wasiiro iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Sudan Mohamed Ahmed Ibrahim Tahir. Dhamaan xubnihii uu la kulmay Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Somaliya ayuu ka codsaday in ay ka qeyb qaataan taageerada Sudan iyo Jaamacada Carabta ee xukuumada Federaalka Somaliya. Ciidamada Sudan Dowlada Sudan ayaa ka gaabsatay in ay wakhtigan ku biirto dowladaha ciidamada nabad illaalinta ah ee Midowga Afrika iyo IGAD usoo dirayaan dalka Somaliya. Dowlada Sudan oo hada la tacaaleyso arrimaha gudaha iyo gobalka Darfur ayaa sheegtay in aysan wax ciidamo ah u diri doonin dalka Soomaaliya, balse ay diyaar u yihiin in ay taageero kasta oo ay awoodaan inay la garab istaagaan Dowlada Somaliya alldarwiish@hotmail.com

^^^The answers given are enough, you can take from them what you must.

Indeed never.

Indeed you have Angola and Mozambique sending troops now and we know how bloody those nations history was. You have South Africa being run by the ANC. Somalia is getting better.

I have a grasp of how things work thats all.