^^^ahahahahah daacuun , cadale daacuun is very angry ma project baad u diideen. Daacuun was one of the most extreme anti Somaliland he even collaborated with abdiqasim in 2001 and helped with the saudi ban on Somaliland livestock he thought that would break SL and made them submit to Mogadishu TNG. I really never expected this outburst from him, i always thought he hated Somaliland more than anything and would never come back to SL.

Doctor only Somaliladners are allowed to obtain citizenship of Somaliland and can hold offices people from Somalia can live and work in Somaliland but cant become citizens.

^^ When Somalilanders united in 1960 with the Koonfurians they were eyeing on two main objectives the freedom of the Hawd and reserve area and the O'gaden region and the freedom of Djibouti from french colonization and the early 1950s generation were convinced wit out the help of the south SYL it could not be achieved. Koonfurians gave up on the Somali region , supported Djibouti independence and after the civil war they invited Ethiopians and Kenyans Ugandans and Afghans and Pakistanis to fight in their Land. There is really nothing there and their leaders are filling their pockets.

Soomaaliya Oo Ku Baraarugtay Ashkhaasta Somaliland u dhashay Ee u Doogsin Cararay Muqdisho APRIL 24, 2014 Cali DaacuunMuqdisho, (Somaliland.Org)- Siyaasiga Cali Maxamed Cali (Cali Daacuun) oo ka mid ah siyaasiyiinta dhalasho ahaan ka soo jeeda Somaliland, balse aaminsanaa midnimada Soomaali weyn ayaa quus ka muujiyay fikirkiisa, waxaanu sheegay in dadkiisa iyo dalkiisa uu u soo noqonayo, islamarkaana wax la qabsanayo. Cali Maxamed Cali waxa uu cadeeyay in magaalada Muqdisho lagu kala tagayo oo siyaasiyiinta reer Somaliland aanay waxba u oolin qadarinna aanay ka helin. Cali Maxamed Cali oo ka mid ah ashkhaasta ka ridoobay qarankooda oo ku sugan magaalada Muqdisho oo warbaahinta la hadlay ayaa sheegay In maalin iyo habeen looga soo hanjabo telefoonka iyadoo loogu hanjabayo waxaad tahay reer waqooyi. “Anigoo Cali ah Ceerigaabaan ka imi, waxaan uga imi midnimada Soomaaliyeed inaanay kala go’in, waxaan joogaa dhawr iyo labaatan sannadood wax mustaqbal ah oo iiga soo kordhay ma jiro, weliba hanjabaado ayaa naloogu daraa oo waxay yidhaahdaan dekadayadii Muqdisho ayaanu idinka biilinaaye’ markaasaad doonaysaan inaad hadashaan. Anigu garan maayo cidda ay biil siiyaan, farriimaha telefoonka iigu soo dhacay ee la ii leeyahay maxaad Wasiirkayga iyo xildhibaankayaga u carqaladaynaysaa iyo madaxwaynahayaga ayaa la nagu daaliyay, intaa meesha aanu ka maqanahay nooshahay maba garanayaan inaanu u nimi midnimo Soomaaliyeed, inaanu iyagoo is-cunaaya u nimi oo u hiilinay maba garanayaan.” ayuu yidhi Cali Dacuun. Cali Maxamed Cali, waxa uu xusay magacyada siyaasiyiin Somaliland ka soo jeeda oo ka tanaasulay fikirkoodii hore ee ahaa riyadii ahayd midnimada Soomali weyn. “Shalay Prof Axmed Ismaaciil Samatar ayaa tagey maanta Garaad Jaamac Garaad Ismaaciil ayaa Hargeysa ka degay, barinna mid kale ayaa tagaya saa-dambe anigaa tagaya, saakuunna mid kale ayaa tagaya.” ayuu yidhi, waxaanu intaas sii raaciyay, “Waa la Iskaga tagayaa reer Muqdisho, maxay cuni ayay ugu hanjabayaan dadka Muqdisho jooga, lacag ayay dhamaantood yaqaanaan, qandaraasna aan cid kale lama siiyo oo sharci-darro ayaa lagula dhaqmaa ummaddii Soomaliyeed ee u soo gurmatay midnimada oo aan waxba laga waydiinayn. Cid dambe oo u joogaysaa ma jirto, oo ay korkiisa dhaqaale ku urursanaysaa, cid aan waddan iyo dhul lahayna ma jirto.” XIGASHO: WARGEYSKA DAWAN

Listen from 3:40 ENG yarisow said it him self that it will get to referendum eventually, the Spokesmen of the government of Somalia. But we knew these rumors before qatar wanted the 10 year referendum but SL government finds 10 years way to long listen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBfCBbI_rCY

Its their own fault Carafaat what were they doing in Mogadishu in the first place I fear for Edo fawziya she should come back home and repent she has enough money to retire now in Somaliland or where ever she prefers she can also go back to to Merry old England.

Somaliland 18 may a great day the day the clock was set back prior to the cancerous union , 26 june the day the Somalilanders said that Somaliland is destined to be an independent nation. And the day the racist greater Somalia was buried six feet under. 18 May the day Somalilanders corrected the mistake the generation before them made. The day a new chapter began and 18 may brought an independent Somaliland progress peace stability democracy love and a bright future may allah protect the Afro hashemite nation of Somaliland Long live

^^ Somaliland already won its independence long time ago, people are just discussing on the strategy on how to win the Diplomatic recognition

Are u sure they are ethnic Somalilanders.

Ciidan sultan is right the south is a burden and a liability there is nothing there corruption Turks feeding the children and mothers African union troops lording them around. Their refugees being targeted by kenyans, MPS getting gunned down Jihadists from Afghanistan and Pakistan, anarchism warlordism piracy people dragging people on the street this is all seems normal according to them. You cant help people that dont want to be helped but their empty bravado keeps them short sighted, and silly arrogance will not get them any where. They first need to acknowledge their problems. I have said it before if people want a union i am willing to build an institution called the union of Somali republics, which can be an institution all 3 countries can become a member off and work things out from there.I mean how can u take people serious who invite their own enemies in their backyard who not that long ago carpet bombed Mogadishu, i am talking about Ethiopia. Sorry but i want Hargeisa to continue t have its Somaliland character we dont want Amisom Culture in Hargeisa, it took Somalilanders 23 years to rebuild what was destroyed the sweat and and energy the SL people put there can never be ruined again. The people of Somalia need to help themselves first Somalilanders cannot solve their problems for them even if SL people wanted to solve their problems its going to be very difficult. We want a Somalia that is at peace with its self and its neighbors including Somaliland and live side by side in a very peaceful way.

Wefti ka socda Kenya oo Somaliland u yimid Sidii ay Safaarada Kenya Ee Hageysa u furi lahaayeen. Published by Maxamuud Jama on April 23, 2014 Hageysa(Waaheen)Safiirka Somaliland ee Dalka kenya Maxamuud Jamac Sifir ayaa Dalka keenay wafti ka socda Wasaarada Arimaha Debada Kenya oo Dalka u yimid Sidii ay u furi lahaayeen Safaarad uu dalka Kenya ku yeelan Doono Somaliland, Weftigan uu horkacayo Safiirku ayaa Maanta ka soo dagay Maraadka Cigaal ee Hargeysa. Waftigan ayaa la filayaa inay Maal maha Soo socda la kulmi doonaan Madaxweynaha Somaliland, hase yeeshee Wasaarada Arimaha Gudaha Somaliland ayaan ilaa hada waxa War aka soo saarin arintaas, hore ayey Dawlada Kenya u shaaciysay inay Somalilanad ka furan doonto Safaarad.

Detoore nickolas kay is a good man but his UNSOM office consists of federal political structure the UNSOM political office works closely under Mogadishu and its government. And since Somaliland is not Somalia there is no point to host their office in Hargeisa. Nickolas explained that to in the news brief. This is has nothing to do with Mahiga , mahigas office was unpos i am not aware of him having ties to Somaliland , if you mean his secretary yes she was from Somaliland but she was not his wife. All in all Nickolas not visiting SL is not personal towards him but the name he carries. As for your other point Ethiopia and Djibouti do not claim Somaliland in their constitution so working with them is much more easier and dealing with them is much easier Somaliland has diplomatic offices in both addis ababa and Djibouti city,Somalia claims Somaliland as part of their country this is where the problem lies. If Somalia stops claiming Somaliland than surely going to Xamar is no problem

Detoore nickolas kay is a good man but his UNSOM office consists of federal political structure the UNSOM political office works closely under Mogadishu and its government. And since Somaliland is not Somalia there is no point to host their office in Hargeisa. Nickolas explained that to in the news brief. This is has nothing to do with Mahiga , mahigas office was unpos i am not aware of him having ties to Somaliland , if you mean his secretary yes she was from Somaliland but she was not his wife. All in all Nickolas not visiting SL is not personal towards him but the name he carries. As for your other point Ethiopia and Djibouti do not claim Somaliland in their constitution so working with them is much more easier and dealing with them is much easier Somaliland has diplomatic offices in both addis ababa and Djibouti city,Somalia claims Somaliland as part of their country this is where the problem lies. If Somalia stops claiming Somaliland than surely going to Xamar is no problem

I posted the video watch from 1:22

Listen from 1:22 lol

<cite> @Tallaabo said:</cite> This is what I think should and shouldn't be shared: 1. Government- no way(the koonfurians can share it with Uganda and the Kikiyus) 2. Economy- I have seen it already, no more booliqaran. 3. Currency- no thank you very much, keep your fake printed paper with you. 4. Airspace- bring it to Hargeisa. 5. Natural resources- keep what is your and I will keep what is mine. 6. Military and security- on my dead body. 7. A head of State( just a ceremonial one)- no problem, give it to the former transitional president of Mogadishu sheikh Sharif sheikh Ahmad . He is a nice chap and can globe throttle for us. 8. Public services- should never be in the hands of someone else so will not be shared. 9. Immigration and border control- Somalis should be free to live wherever they want in the Horn, so I have no problem with it. We can also combat the influx of the Oromo together. 10. Foreign policy- we can share embassy buildings in foreign capitals to save money, we can also harmonise our foreign policy to reflect our shared interests. We may also share passports provided it is properly controlled. 11. Intelligence- we can share it. 12. Flag- the blue flag can represent the confederation of Somaliland and Somalia if Somalia adopts its own different flag to represent their region so each region can hoist two flags like the European Union. 13. A supreme court- yes, it should be based in Hargeisa if the ceremonial head of state is based in Mogadishu. 14. A senate- Somalia has got no senate so should have one. Then Somaliland guurti and the Somalia senate will have joint sessions to discuss important matters for both entities. 15. Italian influence- koonfuria can have it all. This could be alright with the exception of sharing a supreme court i do not like the judiciary system of the Koonfurians. We should view things from a practical point of view. i dont have a problem with the Blue flag if it is the confederal flag. and to make it legit to hold a unsupervised referendum on independence in 5 years time. And as agreed the Southerns can lobby for their union in SL in those 5 years time. by holding rallies and stuff , i think thats a fair and reasonable deal.

^^ People have no problem with a UN supervised referendum aslong as Milataries between Somalia and Somaliland are not interlinked sharing airspace is no problem. What people have a problem with is the 10 year time , it should be cut to 5 and than Siilaanyo and the Kulmiye government can sell this to the Somaliland public and say we didn't bring the recognition now but in 5 years time. Remember Somaliland is fighting for recognition and it will do everything to short cut what ever end settlement that can be reached.

People tend to make the mistake in the 1970s the Somali republic was at the height of its progress but the people were unhappy with the union and the regime. Any way what i am trying to say is for a genuine union ever to re emerge between Somalis as a whole in all 3 countries. First thing first Somaliland must be totally independent psychologically independent recognized by the world nations and be an equal to Somalia and Djibouti.Somaliland must be given the right to exercise its right to be an independent state trust me when that happens Somaliland will remodel the larger Somali peninsula, old wounds will heal mistrust with the south will become much better. Imagine if there was never a union Somalia and Somaliland could today have a healthy union there would be love the same love that is between Djibouti and Somalia. The union caused the pain and misery and suffering now if people want a real and strong and long lasting union once Somaliland is independence is recognized the 3 countries can equally unite under (the Union of Somali republics) They can open up the border use one currency one passport heck even in the long term create one Military force to protect Somali interest in the Somali peninsula one parliament we can do all that the European union does , and before you know it we could be a regional power house interlinked Economies trade ,but for all of that to happen it has to be a union of equality not Somaliland under Somalia. or Somalia under Somaliland, not a union of hatred envy and jealousy and war, will never work. So do people want such a union , than they first have to respect the wishes and the aspirations of the people of Somaliland the union of Somali republics will not be based on emotions or hatred or irrational love for Somali territories it will be a better alternative than the racist greater Somalia, that caused us nothing but pain killings and hatred between us and between our neighbors, but most koonfurians dont know the difference between Somalia and greater Somalia and Somali.

UN Envoy Warns Violence May Force Diplomats Out Of Somalia Wednesday, April 23, 2014 The top United Nations envoy to Somalia warned Tuesday that the U.N. and other foreign diplomats may have to withdraw from the war-ravaged nation if they continue to be attacked. He spoke the same day that two Al-Shabab gunmen killed a Somali legislator as he left his home in Mogadishu, marking the second fatal attack on a member of parliament in as many days. U.N. Special Representative Nicholas Kay said attacks that cause "significant losses" would likely force international officials to leave or, at least, pare down their missions in the Somali capital of Mogadishu. "I am deeply conscious that if we make a mistake in our security presence and posture, and suffer a significant attack, particularly on the U.N., this is likely to mean to us withdrawing from Somalia," Kay said at the U.S. Institute of Peace in Washington. "There are scenarios in which if we take further significant losses, then that would have a strategic effect on our mission," Kay said. Western diplomats began increasing ties with Mogadishu after Somali civil activist Hassan Sheikh Mohamud was elected president in September 2012. At the time, the West cautiously predicted improvements in Somalia's security, given the expected stability Mohamud's government would bring to the failed state and the ouster of rebel network Al-Shabab from Mogadishu the year earlier. But Al-Shabab has continued its drumbeat of deadly attacks against diplomats, aid workers and the Somali government. Earlier this month, a gunman at an airport in Somalia's Puntland region shot and killed two consultants working for the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime. And in June 2013, the U.N. compound in Mogadishu was the scene of a deadly suicide attack staged by Al-Shabab, which has called the U.N. "a merchant of death" in Somalia. The violence has slowed U.S. enthusiasm for stepping up its Somali mission, which is currently based in neighboring Kenya due to the security threats. It's unlikely that the U.S. will establish an embassy in Mogadishu for at least another several years. A handful of countries — including Great Britain, Turkey, Sudan, Libya and Yemen — have embassies in Mogadishu. The European Union also has an office there. As recently as last week, officials announced the deployment of about 400 Ugandan troops to Somalia under a new United Nations guard unit charged with protecting U.N. staff and installations. It's part of an effort that Kay described Tuesday as the U.N. re-bolstering its presence in Mogadishu after pulling back to Kenya following last June's attack on its compound. "We have to measure our presence," Kay said, adding that he has encouraged more U.N. member states to open or expand programs in Somalia. However, he described a perilous balance between "believing that it is right that we should be there" and facing the risk of doing so. "I'm also deeply conscious there are risks," Kay said. "And if we got hit very badly, it might have an impact."

Tallaabo under no circumstance can security and other issues be shared with the south even in a brief period of time i am also strongly opposed for SL to send troops to Somalia. Eventually it will get to a referendum the koonfurians will try to prolong this the Qataris suggested in 2013 a 10 year time this is ridiculous. Somaliland should exhaust these talks with them and eventually trust me the Europeans if there is mediating factor there will be a reasonable out come. The reason why the Koonfurians said lets meet every 3 months its to prolong these talks before a settlement is reached, they to know it. Problem the union 1960 seemed attractive because Somalilanders never knew koonfurians and their politicking and the way they do things, but today there is nothing and ofcourse 23 years of independence cant be reversed in 2 years time it will be a quarter century. I believe Somaliland should continue these talks its going to be very interesting.

Somaliland economy is more connected to Ethiopia than its to Somalia. The international community has to be fair and impartial if they wish to mediate between the 2 groups.Not to further Link Somaliland to Somalia and waste more time. Somaliland is always open for talks it always said it was but it cant reverse its statehood that is suicidal.The fundamental contention between the 2 countries is that the 2 made a union a union , equal union, both states, united there was an act of union some say it was never ratified. South Sudan was a region of Sudan which fought for independence the Eritrean Ethiopian model is closer to Somalia and Somaliland conflict. Somalia nationalists can never accept this either Puntland jubbaland galmudug , what will happen to their federal states in those period of 10 years. The best thing for southerners is stop wasting more time and lets say good bye to each other and call it a day.

By the way this is a rip of the south sudan and sudan model but this cannot work for the situations are 2 different in Somaliland and Somalia , South sudan agreed to be an autonomous state under Sudan. Somaliland has never ever acknowledged to be under Somalia this is the fundamental difference between the 2. There is no point to exhaust another 10 years and waste another 10 years and than still separate i prefer the Eritrean model where the 2 agreed to hold a referendum in brief period of time. This can work , a north south power sharing formula will only frustrate Somalia nationalist. And divide Somalia further into clan states.

This can never happen Somaliland can never agree with a union with Somalia it will be a major loss for Somaliland and a win for the Koonfurians. If there is ever going to be a confederal union the referendum has to be 5 years. Not 10 years thats way to long and way to long to reach a settlement , i believe the talks will continue and the 2 will not reach an agreement any time soon it has to be mediated by a 3rd party before such an agreement can be reached. I heard about the 10 year union referendum rumors last year but through qatar channels it remains just rumors how ever. The only way Somalia and Somaliland can agree Is that Somalia is allowed in the period ahead of the referendum to hold rallies in SL to promote their union And that Somaliland agrees to share and cooperate in peace as confederal states and foreign affairs for short period of time. I doubt the whole president prime minister can be reached its to senstive