^^ She's proud that she made it in on time to work. So proud she had to quit, just in case she tarnishes this great memory.

^^ I know. What was I thinking, eh. (Didn't I tell you to calm down, young man?).

Hagi was great for Romania but I always liked this guy better: Lazy, Go back to talking basketball, darling. The balls there are bouncy. As for your question, it is too early to tell really. Here is how it will go after the group stages (work it out for yourself at the time): Winner Group A v Runner-up Group B, Quarter Final 1 Winner Group B v Runner-up Group A, Quarter Final 2 Winner Group C v Runner-up Group D, Quarter Final 3 Winner Group D v Runner-up Group C, Quarter Final 4 Winner Q/F 1 v Winner Q/F 2, SF, Winner Q/F 3 v Winner Q/F 4, SF, Winners SF1 v Winners SF2, F,

Ah. The zest and vigour of youth.

These guys?

^^ But of course. It's not only HAMAS that is against him now. I bet even the PLO is against him too. He did not only talk about the security of Israel being sacrosanct (which is understandable and acceptable to the PLO), he insisted on Jerusalem being the capital of the state of Israel. This one was always the contentious point in the dealings between the two sides. The man is not merely giving lip service here, he is fully committed to the Israeli cause. Heck, not even Mr Clinton was that forthcoming in her speech. Still, pass me the pompoms....go Obama, go....

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Irrelevant talk. That's what HE said.

^^ What are 'beoble', you vulgar peasant? (yeah, long day).

^^ Silly me, what was I thinking. She should come and do it in the UK. More secrecy this way and nobody is likely to recognise her as she sneaks out of the clinic after the op.

^^^^ Going to extremes to be virgins — again Women try hymen repair, get fake virginity certificates before marriage The Associated Press updated 7:06 a.m. ET June 26, 2006 SAINT-DENIS, France - Chastity can exact a painful price from young Muslim women, forced into lies or surgery to go to the marriage bed as virgins. Hymen repair, fake virginity certificates and other deceptions, said to be commonplace in some Muslim countries, are practiced in France and elsewhere in Europe, where Muslim girls are more emancipated but still live under rigid codes of family honor. Such ploys have saved many a young woman from scorn and worse. But they also clash with the more liberal social mores of France and Europe, where some decry it as an attack on human rights. The procedures are legal but shrouded in silence — “something that passes through nonofficial channels,” via friends or the Internet, said Dr. Nathan Wrobel. “There are circuits that lead women to me.” ‘It’s a secret we share’ Wrobel is one of an unknown number of gynecologists in France who are willing to repair hymens, the membrane usually broken by the first act of sexual intercourse. He was one of the few doctors willing to talk about it. Wrobel says women come to him having convinced themselves that the procedure will somehow reverse the irreversible. “They tell me, ‘I’ll be a virgin again. You will make me a virgin,’ which in reality is totally false .... It’s a secret we share.” Other doctors issue false virginity certificates or offer such tricks as spilling a vial of blood on the sheets to fool families into believing the bride has passed their purity bar. Through the ages, virginity has been prized across religions and cultures, and doctors note that only a few generations back European brides also had to furnish documentary “proof” of chastity. Broader question In today’s France, with an estimated 5 million Muslims — the largest such population in western Europe — it’s part of the larger question of how to deal with cultural clashes ranging from head scarves in schools to sexual segregation in swimming pools. A 2005 government report addressing culture clashes in hospitals, and issued a year after Muslim head scarves were banned from classrooms, briefly mentions the virginity issue, asking doctors to refuse to issue false certificates. Isabelle Levy, author of “Religion in the Hospital,” decries both certificates and hymen repair, saying deception “increases the moral suffering.” In Islam, virginity is linked to bridal purity and family honor, said Dalil Boubakeur, head of the Paris Mosque. He notes that tradition holds that “adre,” virgins, are among the delights of paradise. However, Boubakeur, a doctor and a moderate Muslim, says the Quran does not address premarital virginity, and he is against the deception, counseling bride and bridegroom to confide in each other. It is not known how many doctors in France or elsewhere in Europe help Muslim women to fake virginity. But in Germany, Turkish Muslim immigrants are increasingly seeking virginity certificates, said Serap Cileli, who survived a forced marriage and now helps victims. German doctors who do hymen repair are easy to find, according to Sibylle Schreiber, who works with a women’s rights group in Tuebingen, but it’s “a taboo topic really only discussed best friend to best friend.” Not on the Internet, however, where the desperation in Web forums is palpable. “If you have contacts to help me, I’ll never be able to thank you enough,” writes a woman calling herself Lubna who wants help finding someone to restore her virginity. Wrobel, who teaches at the University of Paris, says he and another doctor at his clinic in a Paris suburb stitch up seven to eight hymens a month in a 20- to 30-minute operation under general anesthesia that he likens to plastic surgery. He asked that the clinic not be named. The price, $500, is steep for a young woman in a poor family and possibly unemployed. A German doctor advertising on the Internet charges $1,250. ‘It’s easy to be like a virgin’ Dr. Emmanuelle Piet, who heads the family planning clinics in an area north of Paris where many Muslims live, says she has been issuing a half-dozen virginity certificates a year for three decades. But instead of hymen repair, she suggests less drastic measures, like spilling blood on the sheet on the wedding night. “It’s easy to be like a virgin,” she said. It’s deceptive but “it’s one way to help the girls,” said Piet, a veteran women’s rights advocate. “They are stuck in things so terrible.” In an interview, a French Muslim woman from the northern Paris suburb of Saint Denis, recounted how she was forced to procure a virginity certificate at age 12 “after my mother surprised me with a friend.” Although nothing had happened between her and the boy, her suspicious brothers beat her up, she said, requesting anonymity. By age 19 she had lost her virginity and underwent hymen repair before marrying a man who demanded a virgin. “I wanted to leave home. I took the first one who came along,” the woman said. The marriage ended after five years. © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13547996/

Originally posted by Nephthys: re the topic: The guy prolly only married her because he liked the idea of sex with a virgin and was then angry with her bc it didn't turn out how he imagined. :mad: She lied to him, my dear. He was right to dump the cow. At any rate, if she was going to lie she should have done it the right way and visited one of the many French clinics that reconstruct the hymen. Apparently it is not that expensive. Silly woman.

^^^ Typical Kulimye supporter. Heh. Answer me this, why is he being asked about peace talks that his country is NOT part of? If things should be played your way then I would say Somaliland should have taken part in those talks. But it did not take part and you know why.

^^ Bah! I had TEN done in one go. I still think he tricked me.

^^ I was actually offered to have it fixed by an opportunistic Syrian dentist. The price was cheap and the service was first class. But I refused. Besides, if the Americans think it's bad then I really must be GOOD.

^^ You're just being difficult because you dislike the man. I see nothing wrong with his reply. After all, I suspect those that put the question to him did not have any of the issues you present here in mind. He, like the president before him (and like Somaliland did in the past seventeen years) distanced himself from these negotiations to reaffirm the 'independence' of Somaliland. It was a perfectly acceptable (and diplomatic) reply.

^^ Thanks. CL, Loosen your hijab there, dear. That wasn't much of an attack. Afternoon by the way

^^ It's some driver's opinion, sensitive woman. JB, What's the source you imbecile, what's the source. :mad:

^^ These are not the gaps we're talking about here. Stop this straight toothed propaganda warya.

Originally posted by -MARX-: How SOL changed! Tell me about it. You've gone from being a progressive liberal into a placard waving communist in the space of a few short months.

Of course it maybe just me, but in everyday speak, when someone says a team has no pace, they usually refer to the fact that this team does not have any fast players. Arsenal, for example, is over elaborate yet the team is full of pace. Barcelona too is fond of having too many touches in midfield yet they don't lack pace. For the problem you point out in both national teams, you will have to blame Deco and Fabregas. Still, at least we understand each other now with no prefixes, suffixes or red faces.

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: NG, maax gaabaarta afSoomaligeed ku daab digay aadi? [/QB] CL must be busy or she would have said: daab?

GB’s report: Our work with Xabaglehs Anonymous has been very fruitful. The last quarter's figures showed a 2% a decrease. In addition, our blonde volunteers succeeded in convincing retailers and importers to only import heavy industrial glue rather than the usual street variety. We expect this kind of glue will not tickle the taste buds of the professional xabagles, and, may actually help towards weaning them off this habit altogether. It is widely acknowledged in xabagle circles that this brand of glue requires fewer inhalations with longer gaps between every sniff, thus limiting the potency of the drug and inhibiting any sustained thrills. GB's amended version (after being told off): We have managed to stop a large number of people from sniffing glue (2% so far). We ordered shop owners and business people to stop importing the addictive glue and threatened them with a lawsuit. They have now started selling good glue.

^^ When all around him were denying the presence of Ethiopian soldiers in Puntland, he came out and openly admitted it. One thing you can't accuse this man with is lying. Still, to be this honest all the time must be a great liability. I bet his advisors cringe every time he's about to give a statement.

^^ ^^ I never said she was not. In fact, I'm sure she is. But up there, she's talking an entirely different language. Is it possible for someone to be dyslectic in Somali?

The first person to decipher what this woman wrote in Somali above wins an all expenses paid return trip to Burkina Faso.