^^^ Shoft da:

There goes the poor maid, again.

^^ If he makes a caricature of Sharif, his supporters too will say it's personal. If he makes one of Siilaanyo, you will say it's personal, etc. The brothers are in the public eye (BY CHOICE), they have spent the past twenty years commentating on Somali POLITICS. They have (more or less) monopolised the airwaves and because of the changing nature of Somali politics, they too have been changing their stances. AA is perfectly correct in pointing these two issues out (media warlords & opposing all things). That's the whole point of a caricature, saaxib. POINTING OUT and MOCKING the RIDICULOUS. Wax fahan dee.

^^ Norf, You're being silly now. The "nin baan sanifay" idea is linked to politics, is it not? Aren't the Samatars always ready to speak into the first mic that gets shoved into their faces? Dee what's the problem marka? p.s. You still do not understand caricatures, saaxib. The minute you get that, you'll get everything that AA says.

Muddying the water with the name of the party though.

^^ Hado ninka sanifay, isn't that a point in itself? The point being made here is very clear and actually true (regardless of the goodness or badness of Samatar).

^^ Even when it's drawn for you in a form of a cartoon, you still miss the point.

^^ Simply asking him not to be a hero and venture outside.

^^ استاذي..اتفرج علي المظاهرات من الشباك بس وما تعملشي فيها بلطجي وتتهور.

Twinkle twinkle little star..how I wonder what you are..up above the world so high..like a nationalist in the sky...

xiinfaniin;760432 wrote: Abtigiis is a wounded man. And the wounded, as the military cliche goes, is particularly dangerous. I am sure he will next write a two page rationalization as to why Netanyahu's military is the most fit to save Somalia from Alshabaab. Alshabaab is evil , you see, so anything that remotely threatens them shall be supported. That is the new logic In all honesty, even Netanyahu is a better option than Al Shabab, adeer. Alas, your false (or is it naive?) nationalsim is blinding you to that fact. The issue here is about the future of a nation, not the next couple of months or years. You, Che and all the nationalists have proven (time and again) your inability to grasp or understand the Somali situation and players. You banged your drums for the Courts when all the ctourts were was a bunch of adminstrating secretries that had no grip on politics. You (Xiin) regaled us with your defunct Caravan when every sane person tried to show you how futile that idea was. You fell in love with the rascal that is Sheikh Sharif and attacked the real politician that was Abdullahi Yusuf. And what do you do everytime your new dawn proves false? You say "we were wrong"..dee ila guurmaad wrong noqonaysaan? Dee guurmaad hordada ka kacaysaan? Guurmaad xamaasadan madhan iska daayaysaan oo practical politics baran doontan? Al Shabab are not SL or PL. You can not brush them aside and claim to prefer them to outside invaders. For whilset an invader can be fought against, rebuffed and sent away; the Shabab menace is here to stay and is never going away on its own. Al Shabab yaa Xiin are the ones that strengthened the resolve of Uganda. They are the ones that will make Kenya keep up her assult on Somalia and they are also the group that will give Ethiopia to pretext to carry on invading Somalia. This is how it stands today. The hopeless TFG supports the fight against Al Shabab because, like everyone else (from Siilaanyo all the way to Sharif) know that this is the one group that does not negotiate, compromise or sit back happily counting its loot. They know that Al Shabab's entire plan and goal is to continue fighting and drag as many sides as possible into this so called Jihad of theirs. Now if you're genuine in your wish to see a peaceful, progressive and (hopefully one day) independent Somalia you will put all your support with those attempting to get rid of Al Shabab (passing nationalism, empty pride and hopeless egos can be put on standby for the time being). If you want to harvest the beautiful rose that is Somalia, you must withstand the temporary pricks of the Kenyan, Ugandan & Ethiopian thorns (war xita Isreal o yeedh). ANYTHING BUT AL SHABAB yaa naas. Wax fahma dee.

Che -Guevara;760390 wrote: NGONGE reminds of dadkii Maxamad Siyaad habaari jiray not really giving serious on the day after. Barre was a dictator and even a dictator (under certain circumstances) can be reasoned with. Al Shabab can not. I don't understand how you fail to see this (even though you withdrew your support for them). Guru, Somalia does not have such a choice today. It has to be pragmatic and real. It has to understand that for any progress to take place the menace of Al Shabab should be ended first. Che and others prefer Al Shabab to outsiders yet fail to see that it is Al Shabab that will keep giving the outsiders an excuse to invade Somalia (with the Kampala bombing being a big example). Al Shabab waa uuf dee.

Xaaji Xunjuf;760386 wrote: Ngonge that's what they used to say few years back ICU needs to be defeated Alshabaab came in the place of the icu even if Al Shabaab is removed from the parts they control in Somalia another Shabaab with a new name will rise up you have action which is an invasion you get a reaction is a new Islamic Patriotic Movement. There will never be another Al Shabab, Xaaji. It's either these mad men orthe crazy clan fighters. I will always choose the clan fighters. One can't reason with Al Shabab dee. Guru, Dee waxan ku edhi I agree, I agree. But I would still take that risk if it means that the people-blowing-Islam-twisting-madmen are defeated.

^^ The defeat of Al Shabab is more important than anything else, guru. The rest is small details about the TFG saving face or Kenyans having impossible dreams about holding Somali lands for long.

^^ I think we're in agreement here (including A&T). It's only the angles we choose to emphasise that differ, guru. The "nationalists" do not agree with any part of this, nor angle.

Guru, ever since the great stitch-up in DJ the TFG was always going to be a disappointment, saaxib. However, like a broken clock being right twice a day, I think the TFG are correct in approving of the Kenyan incursion. The problem with Somalis is their shortsightedness, saaxib. You've been here for the past six years and have seen the crazy ups and downs we've had during that time. The funny things in all of that is that people are today (like in the past) opposing the invasions for "nationalistic" reasons yet are shortsighted enough not to realise that Al Shabab are the Somali nations biggest threat. An invader might want to control certain areas, advance his interests or create "buffer zones" (as the agreement with the Yetis is said to be), however, an invader can not wipe out a nation or corrupt it. Al Shabab on the other hand are no different to the old colonisers and are hellbent on changing every aspect of Somali life. If all the world can not see that, a nationalist SHOULD! In this, I have to commend the reasoning abilities of my (occasional) friend, A&T, for he has finally seen the light and the real danger to the entire H of Africa.

^^ What's your take on the whole thing, guru? Don't tell me you're against this invasion!

^^ What can I say about the thread? Someone on twitter reads SOL? Eeeen..and do they like what they see or are they Xiin fans?

Sayid*Somal;760347 wrote: Wakaa - damin ma daallo - fasirka waxaan qoray - ka eeg weedha ka bilaamata: "on a serious note...":D Indhoole waaxid. Have you not noticed that we posted at exactly the same time? Wax fahan.

^^ Warya, I have not seen any new discussions on the Kenyan and (expected) Ethiopian invasions..ma Xiin baa la sugyaa?

Sayid*Somal;760340 wrote: Saxiib adiga weligaba fahanku wuu kugu yaraa - so no surprise there! Wakaaa! Haye, maclin, bal ii fasir waxaan aad qortay.

^^ I don't understand your threads these days warya. What's this thread about?

XX, is this different to the announcment afew months back about education in SL being made free for all? Has there been a change or is this an addition, saaxib?

Al Salaam caleekom wa raxmato allah wa barakaato to Juxa only (the rest depend on gurantees). I had a great weekend. Parents came back from haj and assured me that they prayed for me and I'm already feeling healthy again. Nuune, Mars is the red planet..war what happend to your somalnimo, could you not find a blue planet?

What if you leave me hanging dee? Maya, I want gurantees first.