^^ You couldn't because it is you who is confused, saaxib. Marna karvanka'ad saarantahay marna dhagaxan baad ku jiidaysa. Xadid mowqifak yaa saaxibi. As for Ethiopia & Kenya not having a solution for Somalia, I never for once suggested that they do. They are simply a means to an end. Once they destroy Al Shabab; your qabiil, MMA's qabiil, A&T's qabiil, Maaddeey's qabiil and every other qabiil can stop the nonsense and sort themselves out to find a way to fix Somalia. Somali ma tihid, saaxib. Ina hebel baad tahay. You can't help it, it's in your culture and upbringing and you really really don't need a caseer-drinking carab like me to remind you of this ailment that you all suffer from (I exclude myself and the sijui crew from such a handicap, though I fully sympathise of course). Now listen to me, iskala bixi oo khashaafka jooji adeer, you'll feel all the better for it.

Lets wait for the results of this meeting before trying to guess what will happen next. It is still a predicament for all concerned.

^^ My slogans make sense, adeer. You are a shining proof of that dee! The people I speak about (apart from your earlier positions of course) are the TFG and your former hero, Sharif. Nothing changed and, in the eyes of your new boys, AMISOM is no different to the Kenyans or Ethiopians. Still, it's no surprise that you finally found your level. Al Shabab waxba isma dhaantan saaxib; they hide behind their cumaamado and you hide behind your (ever evolving) nationalism. War soo baxa ha la idin wada arki dee.

A weak and irrelevant defence of Al Shabab there, Maaddeey. You really should not even stoop to the level of denying such pointless rumours, saaxib. What you must defend is Al Shabab's hellbent desire to kill any and everyone that opposes them (in the name of the deen). What you need to defend is Al Shabab's isolationist agenda, their heavey handedness and their hobby of digging graves. What you need to clarify is their total manipulation of the faith and their belief that they (and only they) are the chosen ones. What you need to explain is their plans for Somalia and their total brainwashing of the ignorant and desperate. What you need to speak up for is their empty xamaasad and their hidden faces. What you need to explain away is their utter disregard for life and their willingness to trample upon the masaakiin as long as they can kill a couple of hopeless ministers. Taa ka hadal intaad kubbad ka murmaysid, saaxib. Try to seperate the "zayt" from the "daqeeq" if you can.

^^ An appealing security arrangement? Then you go and tell me that I am the confused one! The same people that asked for AMISOM's help are those that are giving their blessings to the Kenyan & Ethiopian invasions, adeer. What was that story that A&T was telling about the short man and tall woman again?

^^ Xamaasad waalan! Kan kaa sariyaa waa nooca "يعطيك من طرف اللسان حلاوة.."...bal inoo waydii his opinion on AMISOM this week. Worse still, if you agree with the rubbish about Al Shabab being 'ours' who 'will come back into the fold' , ninka aan ku mooday ma tihid ya Maaddeey.

Jb, I have a copy of that book at home. The stories are mostly funny but the author spoils it all by going on and explaining the jokes. Bal imagine him in the 'heat of an election' where he has to throw mud at the opposition and make fun of them. "Siilaanyo waa oday asaasaqay; markaan oday asaasaqay leeyahay waxaan o jeeda, Siilaanyo waa oday da'a weyn oh sonkor iyo xanuuno badan leh..." it sort of kills the thrust of the attack (like he did with his book/jokes). Naga daaya.

^^ Nothing wrong with collecting funds for Mosques. None at all. But, in a fight against Al Shabab, one must remove all reasons that may garner wrong sympathy. Marka, the collecting wadaads should take a break from the airwaves until such a time that the mad ones are off the air too.... xata la yakhtalit zaytuna bi daqiiqina, ya basha.

^^ Isn't he the guy that wrote 'diiwaanka qosolKa'? I know nothing about him but that book and, for that reason, I feel sorry for Udub.

^^ Dee ma been ban isku sheegayna, saaxib? I have never agreed with or spread the rubbish about Al Shabab banning bras and the other nonsense. I know what Al Shabab stand for and also know what they believe (or at least what the majority do). My oppostion to Al Shabab is a matter of principle, saaxib. Isku diin ma nihin (according to them). If their areas are peaceful it is only so because they'll blow the hell out of any oppostion (fair or otherwise). Again, I am not sure why you are telling me about the TFG. I already told you that I don't support that lot either. But, with the TFG, I know that they'll go one day because of their obsession with waxyaabaha 'taafiha' ah aad ka hadlayso, I don't think Al Shabab will go unless totally defeated and destroyed. I don't see a future for Somali while the Shabab are in control, saaxib. These guys don't want to talk to anyone, don't get on with anyone and only know how to blow whoever disagrees with them up. When one weighs all their 'good' against their bad, they're found wanting. p.s. Whatever group comes after Al Shabab is not likely to be one using the faith as their driving force. At most they'll be a clan group. We understand clan, we don't understand Afghani clans though. Wax fahan.

Maaddeey;769903 wrote: Even in that time (2006-9) there was suicide bombings and missions, but still these people were against Ethiopian invasion, as you mentioned Al Shabaab never changed, they used to do what they do now. Al Shabab ha la jebiyo, lakin cadawga duullaanka ah dhibaatada uu ka tegi doono ma ka fekerteen?. 2007-dii Ethiopianku min Galgaduud illaa Kulbiyow ayay qabsadeen, Shabaabna waxay soo laabteen iyagoo intii ka xoog badan. Eesh Faa'idah?. The 'faaidah' is in the shift in the way of thinking of most people. It's all about trends, Maaddeey. Back then, people were still of the belief that Courts were hard done by and that Al Shabab were fighting a just fight. Therefore the sympathy vote was with Al Shabab. However, today and after watching the madness of Al Shabab unfolding over a number of sorry years, the trend is changing and the 'xabash' don't sound too bad. In addition, with the clever invention of states such as Azania, the xabash (and others) can arm, aid and assist such states whenever the time for leaving comes. The days of invading in force and then leaving are long gone. I don't hide my hatred of Al Shabab and neither do I (nor ever did) profess my love for the TFG. Having said that, I have always believed (and still do) that Somalis problems will improve every time we eliminate one of the obstacles to peace. Today, Al Shabab is the MAJOR obstacle. I have no worries about Ethiopians, Kenyans or AMISOM remaining for an indifinate period, because, I can see that there are Somalis (such as yourself) who will never accept such an eventuality. Furthermore, I believe it easier to dislodge an invading neighbour than the massive task of disinfecting the Shabab infestation. Saaxiibo war ii ma haysid, if it were in my hands I'd even ban the mosque-collecting wadaado from Universal TV and the like. The war cry today should be; Qabiil is good, Shabab is bad. p.s. Dhibaatada aad sheegayso ma mid cusub ba? Regardless of who is fighting when, the people are going to suffer and die. Hadaba, while they're dying we must ensure that their children don't by getting rid of the reasons for such needless deaths. Every day is not a new day, saaxib. Taarikh iyo dhibaatada aad sheegayso ayaa ka horiisay. Therefore, whilst worrying about the problems that may (will) come, bear in mind that today's plans may go along way into changing tomorrow's landscape. Aqool qowli hada......

^^ Google? Now you see why I think you're not serious!

Maaddeey;769893 wrote: Dadkii Xabashida ka qaylin jiray ee af labadii yeeri jiray aaway hadda?, xamaasaddii miyaa dhamaatay mise waddaniyaddii?!. I am sad to report that some of the people you're asking about met their maker as a result of successful Al Shabab missions/suicide bombings. Those that survived (even in far away London) love nothing more than to see Al Shabab destroyed and humbled.

^^ Doubt is not good enough for you to call for a ban. Wax fahan.

N.O.R.F;769883 wrote: ^Boqol kun oo uroo ayuu caydhsanaayey ps it is the same story as in Holland and UK. So even though it's illegal in Germany there still remains a market where one can make 100,000 euros from one trip? 1.7 tons! It is not the same becuase there is no ban in Holland & the UK (though the number of addicts isn't that much different to those in Germany, unless the man was eating it all himself).

Che -Guevara;769851 wrote: Twenty one Somalis including me responded to this thread. Are we to assume all of us are the exception? A case of everyone is guilty but me! That said, I don't know what went wrong with qurbajooga, the Somalis I grew up with in Somalia were by no means rude. Of course they were rotten apples. Twenty two now. If you include my mother, four of my siblings, three aunts, fifteen cousins and fourteen nieces & nephews and a very small number of my in-laws, that's a lot of Somalis who are not rude! p.s. The Hindi should have stood up for himself and not allow that useless Somali to order him around. I, would have told him so.

^^ He criminalised himself. That's not the same story as in the Holland and the UK though. p.s. Why did he criminalise himself though?

Carafaat;769561 wrote: Ngonge and many others were wrong in their analysis of Shariif 2,5 years ago. Shariif showed another leadership style of the more consultitive and broad support based kind, then the dictatorial they were used to and Somali's are fed up with Al Shaytaan. I beg to differ. I was and still am CORRECT, saaxib. Time and experience has kept on proving that but do I get my due respect? Does anyone out there start the whisper "NGONGE knows what he's talking about", "NGONGE for president"? p.s. Which side is Xiin on today?

I don't understand it. These are pictures of a beautiful and progressive town. Where the hell did all the fighting or (at least) the signs of it?

^^ No shin pads though. Wonder what the insurance companies think!

^^ Always insha allah. Warya Jb, when do you get the time to watch that stuff? Surely not at home!

^^ Like I told you, when Carroll starts scoring you'll suddenly decide that he's doing all the right things even though he'll be doing exactly what he's done since we've bought him. Go watch the Blackburn match, adeer. Anyway..

Yes. Yes. Salaam. Salaam. Maxa cusub?

^^ I also asked Zack to request that you be changed with someone else. Wax fahan.

^^ Cool. I'll await your green light. p.s. Nin culus ha ahaado it is still bad to break from old habits. I can already picture him in a serious meeting between the ONLF and the Ethio government. Everyone is slient and serious. A&T worries that the silence is going to spoil the meeting so he jumps in with the question "how do you know when a whore is full?" They all stare at him in amazment but the man is singleminded (if nothing else) and carries on with the reply to his own question/joke.. "when she gets a runny nose".. billah cakeel tolka la hadal oo waxaad tidhaahda kaa inga badala..