Ibtisam
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and you come back to see if you got response for the post in the wrong site :confused: anyway you best remove it
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^^^loool^ at times i think that notherner; pretty much yeah, they did not want anything that altered their life, basicly the easy way out.
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i repeat Read the thread properly, I know you wanted the conclusion to be that everyone liked Islam best and found it the easiest to follow. But the result went the other way, and that’s does not take anything away from Islam, maybe it was not explained or most probably as the findings suggest people liked religions which did not impose on them a whole new way of life, (i.e. ones that do not change your life or have an impact on it) it is therefore logical that Islam, Judaism will get the lowest results, as they govern your whole daily life, from what you wear, to eating and everything else. As for your name if you did not ask in a such rude way flip, i might add the mode!! cheers
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^^i like it. apart from the typical Somali forehead. a sight for sore eyes; i think his smile confuses people. Keep him cheers
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^^^ as i said take a chill pill and relax your little self. you have just quoted the findings. nothing more nothing less. is it the fact that it is not proi Islam that bothers you?
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:rolleyes: :cool:
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^^^honey i think in this case it is the safety qabil and guns bring you. Any Tom and Dick could not do this
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^^lool i thought hard headed people like you should suffer
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^^ and here i was thinking you were a dictionary. he wants to chop off your head for making fun of.... filp; how i'm against ISlam? did you even read the post :rolleyes:
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^^ no, you can put your sword away long enough to read it fully. it is a report!! and the conclusion of a study, don't try and read too much into everything. sometimes there are no hidden agendas and no one is ridiculing anything. cheers SB: really now, God forbid anyone is taht lost
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^lool^ if you see friendly peopel in london, you best run a mile
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Religion has been with man for thousands of years, but with so many to choose from how do you know which one is right for you? We did a study on major religions to provide the answers. You’ll find religion providing these basic essentials: Explanation of what happens when we die Narration of universal origin Understanding of what is intrinsically good and bad We tested eight beliefs Catholicism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, along with Atheism, Hinduism, and Satanism to determine which one is best for you.. HOW WE SCORED We tested eight beliefs Catholicism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, along with Atheism, Hinduism, and Satanism to determine which one is best for you. We used four major test criteria: Ritualistic We determined how much ritualism goes into religion. The less rituals that are involved the less burden it is on a person and the less work that had to be performed. Sin threshold This determines how much you can get away with before it is considered a sin. The greater the sin threshold the more leeway you have, and the more free you are to do as you please without repenting. Penalty for sin This is the price that you are forced to pay for your sins. The higher the penalty for sin, the more burdensome the repentance process is. Ease of getting in heaven This is how much work you are responsible for performing before you are allowed to reach nirvana. With most of the religions this was a hazy area. Majority of the information we were able to gather came from scriptures as well as extensive interviewing of theologians. How We Tested Since most people have some sort of religious predisposition, in order for our investigation to be unbiased we had to use impartial participants. For our independent test, we brought in 37 aborigines from the Brazilian rain forest tribe of Raoni. With a crude understanding of god and the universe, we explained each religion to them and asked them to try it out for a 4 week period. All the participants had a chance to try out all eight religions for a 4 week time frame and rank them based on their findings. Our Findings In our tests we have found that most of the aborigines preferred Christian religion based on its ease of understanding. With Catholicism being a close second, followed by other religions. Here are the findings. Christianity This is by far was the most popular belief among the aborigines people, with more than 2 out 4 preferring it. The concept of a loving god, was easy to understand, since it bore some semblance to their god “Khatimi†, the god of 'big shiny things'. This belief was so favorable among the tribesmen that a few even made a small donation to the Robert Schuller Ministries at the end of their two weeks trial. Two of our panel testers Zeha and Rhadi who we named Ben and Gary. Catholicism A close second, it nearly did as good as Christianity, if it not for a few confusing ritualistic beliefs. The tribesmen enjoyed the Pope, after we were able to show them rare footage of His Holiness giving Easter Mass in the Aboriginal language of drum thumping. Hinduism This was a distant third. Most tribesmen had a difficult time comprehending the perpetual birth and rebirth concept. Majority of the tribesmen also found the movie Gandhi to be way too long, with Candice Bergen’s performance substandard and trite. Our panelists attempting to play with a Dreidel during their evaluation of Judaism. Buddhism Buddhism did not fare well among the tribesmen. Most found the notion of Buddha as god, not to be credible. With many questioning how can a god control the world, when he can’t even control his weight? Most of the tribesmen preferred Jesus who had a slender and slightly muscular body. Muslim Although not very popular it did appeal to a few of the aborigines. Ironically the few tribesmen who chose the Muslim religion soon got into an altercation with those who preferred Judaism. The dispute was over the territorial right of the grass hut in which they were living. The tribesmen who choose the Muslim religion claimed they were in it first. Judaism This religion was very confusing to most. From proper attire, ritualistic conduct, and Kosher food, left most of the aborigines baffled and perplexed. With one of the tribesmen eating a Dreidel out of confusion. Satanism Chosen only by few. Although many of the tribesmen could relate to sacrificing of animals to a higher power. This is due to a common practice of sacrificing small rodents to their evil god “Khulli†the god of the 'itchy rash.’ Here our supervisor is trying to make Hapti grasp the concept of Holy Communion. Atheism Although ranking high on our scholarly section, this belief was not preferred by any of our testers. The concept of life being meaningless and with no hope of an after life, left most of the tribesmen desponded and depressed, with a few actually needing short term therapy, after the four week trial. Recommendations If you are looking for a good over all religion you can't go wrong with Christianity. It ranked the highest among the tribesmen and very high in our scholarly test. If you prefer no ritualistic practices bestowed upon you, atheism is the right belief for you, even though it ranked very low in our independent tests. If you prefer a lot of rules and customs take a look into Judaism, or the Muslim religions. The chart should provide more information for you :rolleyes: Final Results source:http://www.fadetoblack.com/consumerreport/religion/pic42.jpg
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Do not be idolatrous about or bound to any doctrine, theory, or ideology. All systems of thought are guiding means. Do not think that the knowledge you presently possess is changeless, absolute truth. Avoid being narrow-minded and bound to present views. Learn and practice non-attachment from views in order to be open to receive others viewpoints. Truth is found in life and not merely in conceptual knowledge. Be ready to learn throughout your entire life and to observe reality in yourself and in the world at all times. cheers
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^^^you only have one tv station to worry about, maybe I’m getting paranoid :rolleyes: i don't think normal people use TV as a source of knowledge, unless it is the discover TV
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Women are inferior to men in the Quran..is it true?
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six pages and still going!!! you guys have a lot of time to waste. your all saying the same thing different words, give it a rest. cheers -
get a life :rolleyes: i'll bloody show you xishood otherwise :mad:
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SB; you have too much time on your hands dear, give it a rest. if i answer your last questions, would you put a lid on it?
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Women are inferior to men in the Quran..is it true?
Ibtisam replied to RendezVous's topic in General
^^which one dear, i have so many? -
Women are inferior to men in the Quran..is it true?
Ibtisam replied to RendezVous's topic in General
Makaljabto: No arab woman has ever voted in her life. really, i beg to differ, and i have evidence. Also there are some arab men that never vote, and guess what else there are countries that vote, but it does not really matter what you vote, the leader has already been decided; you only have to look at Bush first elections. lastly and not least, i don't think voting can be used to decide how free someone is; consider this: French philosopher Rousseau: "The English people consider themselves to be free, but they are sadly mistaken. They are free during the parliamentary membership elections. As soon as the members are elected, servitude prevails, and the people are rendered to non-beings. How the English utilize the short moments of freedom enjoyed is indicative that they truly deserve to lose it." Also, you seem to be a bit confused between people’s actions and shirah law, maybe you should study it first before attributing peoples actions to shirah. It is easy to confuse laws with each interruption of individual countries. AbdulNoor; no problem cheers -
I suppose this is your question, Ibtisam, and not part of the article. Do you think Muslims shouldn't ask for tolerance when they put to death a murtad (a revert)? i don't know i guess it makes things a little bit more difficulty. i advocate for human rights and especially tolerance for Muslims and their faith. i was not even aware of this man and his trial till i went to a meeting yesterday and they threw that question at me, why should we tolerate Muslims who kill people simply for changing their mind. Personally such a public display is not beneficial to Muslims who live in none Muslim countries, it makes us seem like confused, two faced people, who want to be treated well in regards to the right to excise their religion and practice it but they cannot give the same freedom to others in their own countries. if they were going to execute the man, then they should employ the same methods as other "shirah" countries where people go missing, not advertise it on BBC. IF the country is govern by shirah then sure, he should have been executed as they have the right and duty to implement it fully, but I’m not sure if there is a fully shirah system in Afghanistan. lets just say i'm bit confused right now on this issue :confused:
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exposed!! The trial judge holds the bible he says belonged to the accused An Afghan man is being tried in a court in the capital, Kabul, for converting from Islam to Christianity. Abdul Rahman is charged with rejecting Islam and could face the death sentence under Sharia law unless he recants. He converted 16 years ago as an aid worker helping refugees in Pakistan. His estranged family denounced him in a custody dispute over his two children. It is thought to be Afghanistan's first such trial, reflecting tensions between conservative clerics and reformists. Afghanistan Conservatives still dominate the Afghan judiciary four years after the Taleban were overthrown. The BBC's Mike Donkin in Kabul says reformists, like the government under President Hamid Karzai, want a more liberal, secular legal system but under the present constitution it is hard for them to intervene. 'Tolerance' Afghanistan's post-Taleban constitution is based on Sharia law, and prosecutors in the case says this means Abdul Rahman, whose trial began last Thursday, should be put to death. We will ask him if he has changed his mind. If so we will forgive him Trial judge Ansarullah Mawlazezadah When he was arrested last month he was found to be carrying a bible and charged with rejecting Islam which is punishable by death in Afghanistan. Trial judge Ansarullah Mawlazezadah told the BBC that Mr Rahman, 41, would be asked to reconsider his conversion, which he made while working for a Christian aid group in Pakistan. "We will invite him again because the religion of Islam is one of tolerance. We will ask him if he has changed his mind. If so we will forgive him," the judge told the BBC on Monday. But if he refused to reconvert, then his mental state would be considered first before he was dealt with under Sharia law, the judge added. He said he expected the case to take about two months to be heard. Precedent The Afghan Human Rights Commission has called for a better balance in the judiciary, with fewer judges advocating Sharia law and more judges with a wider legal background. Several journalists have been prosecuted under blasphemy laws in post-Taleban Afghanistan. The editor of a women's rights magazine was convicted of insulting Islam and sentenced to death last year - but was later released after an apology and heavy international pressure. Mr Karzai's office says the president will not intervene in the case. Observers say executing a converted Christian would be a significant precedent as a conservative interpretation of Sharia law in Afghanistan. But it would also outrage Western nations which put Mr Karzai in power and are pouring billions of dollars into supporting the country. what right do muslim have demanding Tolerance?
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loool; my man thinks its a chat room where response comes in seconds. i don't really see the big deal. There probably are some Jews that are of Somali origins or something As long as no one is forced to go to these centres. I’m sure they also have Somali gay and lesbian society. :cool:
