^^cheers i think i exits here>>>>>. i'm going to learn how to speak it first, then come back for your lessons. possible next year. i will re-apply then. by then hopefully nameless will be teaching it. cheers

The one above is sahih. there is also this one; Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: Abu Bakr came and sought permission to see Allah's Messenger. He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came 'Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah's Apostle sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Holy Prophet laugh, so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter of Kharija when she asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck. Allah's Messenger laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. Abu Bakr then got up went to 'Aisha and slapped her on the neck, and 'Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her saying: You ask Allah's Messenger which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah's Messenger for anything he does not possess." (Hadith, Sahih Muslim, Book 009, #3506, Muhammad doesn’t slap his wives, but laughed at hearing about his friend Umar slapping his wife when they asked for more money. Muhammad’s wife was slapped by her father upon hearing she too had been asking for more money.) i think it is a subject you should research yourself. start off with Muhammad Abu Zahra, Usbu al Fiqh al Islami (Cairo: al Majlis al A'la li Ri'ayat al Funun, 1963) p. 66. p.s. The Prophet advised one Muslim woman, whose name was Fatimah bint Qais, not to marry a man because the man was known for beating women: "I went to the Prophet and said: Abul Jahm and Mu'awiah have proposed to marry me. The Prophet (by way of advice) said: As to Mu'awiah he is very poor and Abul Jahm is accustomed to beating women" (Muslim). "Those who do so (beat their wives) are not the best among you" (Abu Dawood). cheers

^^^ lool how dare you. not that i know off. never seen him before, till today. p.s. nameless; the cost is clear for you,

i can't remember where i read it exactly. i will look it up when i get time. which could be as far as summer time. EDIT: found it after all: "Iyas Dhubab reported the apostle of Allah as saying: "Do not beat Allah's handmaidens", but when Umar came to the apostle of Allah and said: "Women have become emboldened towards their husbands", he (the prophet), gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the apostle of Allah complaining against their husbands. So the apostle of Allah said, "Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you". (Hadith Of The Sunan Of Abu Dawud, Chapter 709 - On Beating Women, #2141)

^^sorry granddad.

^^it does me that. honest. nameless seriously he is just pulling your leg. it means the section for old people. who said i know no better? busted!!

^^^ in verse 4:34. [4:34] The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners. The righteous women will cheerfully accept this arrangement, since it is GOD's commandment, and honor their husbands during their absence. If you experience rebellion from the women, you shall first talk to them, then (you may use negative incentives like) deserting them in bed, then you may (as a last alternative) beat them. If they obey you, you are not permitted to transgress against them. GOD is Most High, Supreme. what i said before is a translation of this, in sahih ul bukhair. i'll look it up when i have time. but it clear says so above. p.s. Abuse of a wife will not happen if the man learns to follow the clear commandments of God in this verse and in the order decreed. Abuse will only happen when a man does not follow these commandments, and fails to cool off and reason with himself or with his wife. this verse is extremely abused by many of the so-called "Muslim" men in the world. While disregarding their own obligations and their own righteousness, they focus on the third step of handling this difficult condition as described in 4:34, skip the first two necessary steps and give themselves the excuse to beat their wives. cheers

^^it means the sections for old people

***NB: Can all pro- Americans PLz stay away i'm going through my bashing in public moods!*** Participating in demonstrations, organizing a vigil, conducting town-hall meetings, or writing letters to elected officials and the media, the anti-war movement have taken a lot of energy out of individuals. All for nothing!!! The United States now entering its 4th year of illegal war in and illegitimate occupation of Iraq, and the pro-war movement moving inexorably towards yet another disastrous conflict with Iran, there is an increasing awareness that the cause of the anti-war movement, no matter how noble and worthy, is in fact a losing cause as currently executed. the Fact is America will always be the nation that not only engages in waging and planning wars of aggression, but also become a nation which increasingly identifies itself through its military and the wars it fights. America seems to be addicted to war and violence, while hiding behind ideals of human rights, individual liberty, and freedom and justice for all. The anti-war movement is fighting a losing cause, what I’m talking about losing; it is on the verge of complete collapse. Although there seems to be a growing change in the mood among Americans against the ongoing war in Iraq, this is not in anyway because they are anti- war. Americans aren't against the war in Iraq because it is wrong; they are against it because they are losing. Selfish *B*A*Stards for example of Congressman Jack Murtha. A strong supporter of President Bush's decision to invade Iraq, went public with his dramatic change of position, suddenly rejecting the war as un-winnable, and demanding the immediate withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. When did the American invasion of Iraq become a bad war? After 2,000 dead people? After two years of fruitless struggle? After spending $100 billion? eeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr :mad: p.s. sorry guys that’s what extensive research on American foreign policy does to you.

Crystal_Clear: you've been on some mean dates cars and money i've heard, like they wanna add you to their collection and buy you :mad: Your favorite sexual positions << deserves a slap to timbuck2. Did you say first date, he best not even dream about asking me that at any date! • "How I should run my life, according to you!"

i think you mis-understood.

Like important words and phrases...I have did my homework in the holidays and learnt the Alphabets. B T J X KH D R S SH DH C G F Q K L M N W H Y I also learnt the names of the weeks in somali but spelling it may be difficult but here goes... Monday= Isniin Tuesday= Talaado Wednesday= Arabaco Thursday= Khamiis Friday= Jimco Saturday= Sabti Sunday= Axad loooooooooooooooooooooooool oh lord, plz help. i'm sure you made the Alphabets up! lool i will be learining with you. loool here is a new word for you. "maa fiiantah" it means are you good/ okay.

^^^he is a man; lool not a women. either way tell him you don't want him. go on

The way I see it is that this brother has much respect for women and we shouldn't put him down for that...what's wrong with that looooooooooooooool i will ask you once you've been a memeber of this site for a little longer if you still think this. loool RiYaQ and nameless: don't worry if i dig in SOL, i'm sure my first few posts were postive towards him. But then i opened my eyes, looked a little closer and waaam; Point of clarification Flipmode: Firstly I didn’t say your thread was solely for me. Secondly that quote is not from me! Lastly Are you denying what the prophet ordained? it is a known fact, that the women complained to the prophet about the severity of beatings from their husbands, the prophet PBUH then said, no beating allowed, after a while the husbands started complaining that the women were getting our of hand and respect was low; And he said beat them with MODERATION, with a small stick (similar to a toothbrush stick) as well as other punishments, such as leave the bedroom (not the house). If you want change this it is up to you, but don't preach something simply because it suits your purpose. That’s how innovations start, and we all know innovation leads to hell-fire. It does not matter what your personal feelings are, if it matter many women would have outlawed the “more than one wife policyâ€. But you have to take everything as it is. I’m done preaching. Cheers

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^^^^Guys loool;^^^ SB is just pulling your legs. Or he has joined the police of SOL who try to dictate how everyone should walk, talk and act like, as well as what you should know, understand, and project outwards. The ultimate dictatorship. :rolleyes: don't mind him, he is just an old frustrated and bitter man.

Scarlet don't confuse the brotha, we know what u meant by "dresses in the dark", bad girl. What makes me cringe, I can't stand sisters that prefer the ways of the kafir instead of their deen and culture, those that lost their xishood and manners. Those that talk english instead of somali. Don't u know words like wallallo huuno, abawoo macaan nafta kawaran sounds better then, hey whats up how’s it going? And yeh those that talk too much when u watching the game, and they get mad at u for not listening. Complete silence please during games. i didn’t know whether to laugh or throw my shoes at you so, I’ll just laugh. better stay away; I’m "one of those that speak English instead of Somali" :rolleyes: Cheers

^^^cheeky people. How come you only envisage yourself as tried, and tortured for having to fill your own belly? What about her, unless your going to allow here to sit at home on a throne all day doing jack nothing then i presume that she too will be tried, and would rather just feed her own belly rather than come home and cook too!! and i thought teh world was fair!1

^^^you mean if you got married all that knowledge would just disappear conveniently; (shakes head)

Tell him to run while he still can. On a serious note Parents always come around; they can't be pissed for ever

Count your blessings: If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead and a place to sleep ... you are richer than 75% of this world. If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace ... you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy. If you woke up this morning with more health than illness ... you are more blessed than the million who will not survive this week. If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation...you are ahead of 500 million people in the world. If you can pray in mosque without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or death ... you are more blessed than three billion people in the world. If your parents are still alive and still married ... you are very rare. If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are truly thankful... you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not. If you can read this, you are more blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot read at all. Have a good day, count your blessings

did I? how so, PLz explain yourself?

Allamagan Member: 6696 posted 31 March, 2006 05:01 PM Well done to North Somali regions. However, in the south, there is no hope as long as there are these warmongers still active and bloting! Allamagan, let me give you a hint, you will find the name of the country by looking at the title of the thread. i can see it pains you greatly. :rolleyes: Soo-Maal don't it get it twisted. :cool:

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Why on God's earth are you obsessed with women!! Did you just come out of prison or something? :confused: Every time I open the women section I see another thread from you. p.s. the first point you made has been modified, men are allowed to beat women, with a small stick, just not like a savage.

^^^lool bless. i know that feeling. Use herbs/scents as relaxation methods before bedtime but even they stop working after a while. as for cooking. Answer; It is not okay for anyone not to know how to cook, male or female. it is a necessity, a must.