Sb what is your point? Scarface; " after he was tipped off by Israeli intelligence. We monitor every movement of Hamas in Gaza,†said an Israeli intelligence source. “So when we learnt that Abbas’s life was in danger, we made sure to inform him without delay yeah right, :rolleyes: :rolleyes: in any case, what is your point. It still remains the case that they need help.

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Stop flirting with me... I'm faithful and morally upstanding husband and father. Coughs, chokes, stifles, stutters…. What whaat what did you say??

Ibtishaam, My spirit lives in London. Tell me something. Why should my Black African spirit contact it's MP on behalf Palestinian struggle? for many reasons; How long can you ignore the problem and remain silent? Just think, you are being cursed by the tearful Palestinian children for not helping them. They are crying out to you whilst you continue in your idle, pointless talks. How are you going to look them in the eye on the Day of Judgment when we will all be held accountable for our actions or shall I say inactions? More so, how will you be able to stand before our Lord, our Creator with your lame excuses about why you didn’t rise against the injustice? Why should you not help, while white, non Muslim people are helping out and speaking out against the crimes being committed in Palestine. It is a shame. As Farid Esak (a peace activist) said, do the people of Islam need those that sit comfortably with injustice and exploitation? An Islam that teaches you everything but acting against the oppression. If ones Islam does not lead us to active solidarity with the victims of oppression, then there are serious questions about the nature of ones Islam It is everyone’s duty to be active and take part. Be of those that are part of the struggles for justice, for an oppression free world. So that children in Palestine, Iraq, Sudan, Afgan, in Chechnya, and others we don’t even know of, can be liberated and are safe to walk the streets. In the words of Azam Tamimi (who kindly enlightened my university with his passionate words of wisdom), Wake up! This is a humanitarian issue. Why aren’t the Muslims at the forefront of the army? Rise up against oppression! ‘Do people think they will be left alone simply because they say we believe and not be tested?’ (Quran 29 :2-6) Do you think God won’t ask you where you were in their hour of need and desperation when they were being abused, murdered, and brutalized…..think….Get your excuses ready guys….or do what you can to help them. If you don't give two toss about religion, let me know and i will send them the white people's version, centred on democracy, freedom of life and liberty etc... Are you convinced SB stop causing me grieve

Help alleviate Palestinian suffering- Contact your MP It seems that we cannot take much action to help the sufferings of Palestinians but we can try, just with an e-mail or a short telephone call. Six brave MPs have presented two EDMs (Early Day Motions) regarding the Occupied Territories and the illegal killings in Palestine to the House of Commons. These EDMs require as many signatures from MPs as possible to be taken notice of. So we call on everyone to write or call their MP and make sure that they sign the EDM. We must put in all our efforts to see that funding is reinstated in Palestine. We hold the means and abilities to help the poversihed Palestinian people and this is one small step. Please contact your MP and urge your friends and families to do so too. The Palestinian people have endured a prolonged aggression by a pariah state, and yet the world not only expects them to sit on their hands, the world blames them for it. Why are the Palestinian people expected to take the blame? The world is infuriated by their democratically electing Hamas, a "terrorist organization," into government. According to a Shin Bet report, Israel’s internal general security service, Hamas’ military wing has not been responsible for a ''suicide bombing'' in nearly two years. Israel has not blamed a single Israeli death on Hamas in 2006. Furthermore, hard-lined Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz reluctantly admitted that Hamas did not coordinate any of the rocket attacks fired from the Gaza Strip in recent months. So why has the EU stopped funding for the Palestinian people? Hamas, who has not even taken over control of the security apparatus in the Occupied Territories, is expected to force Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade to halt all attacks on Israel (which Israel refuses to reciprocate) without the resources or political capital to do so. If Hamas tried to disarm the militant groups in the territories at the height of Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people, complete chaos would break out. Moreover, this call is being made while the world is bankrupting the Palestinian government (in turn bankrupting the Palestinian people). In the large sea of global politics a minnow like the Palestinians cannot survive without protection and fresh water. The disappearance of objectionable voices that once cried out for the rights of the Palestinian people is pushing those in the Occupied Territories down a very narrow path. Many in the European Union are now towing the line for Israel’s rhetoric and policies, while most of the Arab states have been "forced" to join the ride due to US pressure and sanctions. The world’s turning its back on democracy and the Palestinian people is an intolerable breach of humanity. In recent weeks, America and the European Union have decided to cut a combined one billion dollars in aid to the Palestinian people. The yearly Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for the Occupied Territories is an estimated 2.5 billion dollars. The GDP figure continues to drop as unemployment skyrockets in the territories—furthering poverty, malnutrition and civil unrest. The world’s economic strangulation is leaving the families of 150,000 Palestinian Authority (PA) employees to suffocate in their already ominous conditions. When the average PA worker, as noted by PLO Ambassador to the US Afif Safieh, takes care of seven or eight family members, the cutting of salaries affects nearly one-third of the Palestinian population in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The continued withholding of Palestinian tax money in East Jerusalem, in addition to the intensified checkpoints, border closures, and constant bombardments on Gaza has left Palestinian society paralyzed. Details of the Motions EDM 2041 below calls upon HMG to work with the EU and national governments for the immediate reinstatement of funding and oppose collective punishment. EDM 1984 relates to the damning ruling on the deaths of Tom Hurndall and James Miller and urges the Israeli Govt to comply with International Law. EDM 2041: SUSPENSION OF EU AID TO PALESTINE By Jeremy Corbyn, Brian Iddon. That this House notes the decision of the European Union to withhold funding to the Palestinian Authority; recognises that this decision, together with both the Israeli government's regular closure of trade routes in and out of Gaza, and similar funding decisions taken by the United States, Japanese and Canadian governments gravely threatens the health and well-being of the Palestinian people, and quite possibly the jobs of approximately 150,000 Palestinian employees who have in total an estimated seven dependants per employee; expresses its opposition to this act of collective punishment against the already impoverished Palestinian people in contravention of International Human Rights conventions; and calls upon Her Majesty's Government to work with the EU and national governments for the immediate reinstatement of funding, as well as for the return of the withheld revenues collected by the Israeli government which belong to the Palestinian people. EDM 1984: CORONER'S COURT VERDICTS ON THE DEATHS OF TOM HURNDALL AND JAMES MILLER By Richard Burden, Jeremy Corbyn, Crispin Blunt, Colin Breed, Gerald Kaufman, Phyllis Starkey. That this House notes the English Coroner's Court verdicts of 6th and 10th April 2006 that the two British citizens, James Miller and Tom Hurndall, were `unlawfully killed' by Israeli soldiers in the Gaza Strip even though they were `engaged in lawful activities'; further notes that the jury expressed its `dismay with the lack of co-operation from the Israeli authorities' in the Coroner's investigations of the Hurndall case and that the Coroner drew attention to `inaccurate, misleading and dishonest conclusions being drawn and published from flawed investigations' in the Miller case; pays tribute to the dignity and determination of both the Hurndall and Miller families in their long search for justice; calls on the UK Government to call for appropriate action by the Israeli authorities in the light of the verdicts, noting the Coroner's advice that the UK may itself have the power to initiate proceedings should Israel fail to do so; expresses grave concern over Israel's failure properly to investigate other cases of international civilians and large numbers of Palestinian civilians killed by Israeli forces; is further concerned by the apparent culture of impunity which too often accompanies the actions of Israeli forces in the Occupied Territories; and, in condemning acts of violence against both Palestinian and Israeli civilians, calls on the international community to urge Israel to comply with international law in the Occupied Territories including the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention, and to withdraw from all occupied territories. An Early Day Motion, or EDM, is a motion put down ("tabled") by Members of Parliament calling for a debate on a particular subject. In practice, their true modern-day purpose is to enable MPs to draw attention to an issue and to canvass support for their views by inviting other Members to add their signatures in support of the motion. If sufficient signatures are attained the issue is question is discussed at greater length. Members may table amendments to existing EDMs. How to contact your MP: SAMPLE LETTER MP NAME Your address House of Commons LONDON SW1A OAA Dear _______ MP Re:The Occupied Territories: most recently EDMs 2041 & 1984 I would be pleased to know that you've had time to consider signing the enclosed Early Day Motions, both of them relating to the Occupied Territories. You'll notice that I am your constituent and I am particularly worried about the impending humanitarian crisis if the EU aid is not resumed. Please try to speak out in parliament and/or ask parliamentary questions relating to the peace process at any opportunity. I look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely thanks people

this is the biggest Palestinain rally in Europe. so show your self people. DEMONSTRATE for PALESTINE SATURDAY 20TH MAY ASSEMBLE 12/NOON EMBANKMENT Rally in Trafalgar Square STOP STARVING PALESTINIANS END ISRAEL’S OCCUPATION RESPECT PALESTINIAN DEMOCRACY Speakers include: Tony Benn Dr Karma Nabulsi, Oxford University Tariq Ali Dr Manuel Hassassian Palestinain Delegate to the UK, just returned from Palestine. Victoria Brittain Mr Kamel Hawwash Chair of the Midlands Palestinian Community Association (just returned from Palestine) Lindsey German (Stop the War Coalition) Keith Sonnet, UNISON Stewart Hemsley, Pax Christi Organised by the PSC www.palestinecampaign.org

Apparently a white man wrote this. Hhhm, .... BLACKS DONT READ THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES!!!! We can continue to reap profits from the blacks without the effort of physical slavery. Look at the current methods of containment that they use on themselves: IGNORANCE,GREED, AND SELFISHNESS. Their IGNORANCE is the primary weapon of containment. A great man once said,"the best way to hide something from black people is to put it in a book." We now live in the information age. They have gained the opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of their fight for freedom,yet they refuse to read.There are numerous books readily available at borders, barnes and noble, and amazon.com, not to mention their own black bookstores that provide solid blueprints to reach economic equality (which should have been their fight all along), but few read consistently, if at all. GREED is another powerful weapon of cotainment. Blacks ,since the abolition of slavery, have had large amounts of money at their disposal. Last year they spent 10 billion dollars during christmas, out of their 450 billion dollars in total yearly income (2.22%). Any of us can use them as our target market, for any buisness venture we care to dream up , no matter how outlandish, they will buy into it. Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed. They continually want more,with little thought for saving or investing. They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a buisness. Some even neglect their childeren to have the latest tommy or fubu, And they still think having a big house and a mercedes give them "status' or that they have acheived the american dream. they are fools! The vast majority of there people are still in poverty because there greed holds them back from collectively making better communities. with the help of BET , and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge profits like those of tommy and nike.(tommy hilfiger has even jeered them, saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other while we build solid communities with the profits from our buisinesses that we market to them. SELFISHNESS,ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the major ways we can continue to contain them .One of their own , Dubois said that there was an innate division in their culture. A "talented tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are segments of their culture that has acheived some "form" of success. However, that segment missed the fullness of his work. They didn't read the "talented tenth"was then responsible to aid the non-talented ninety percent in acheiving a better life. Instead, that segment has created another class, a buppie class that lokks down on their people or aids them in a condescending manner. They will acheive what we have. There selfishness does not allow them to work together , their selfishness lets their egos get in the way of their goal. Their so-called help organizations seem to only want to promote their name without making any real change in their community. They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our hotels , and talk about what they will do, while they award plaques to the best speakers, not he best doers . is their no end to their selfishness? They steadfastly refuse to see TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE (TEAM)! They do not understand that they are no better than each other of what they own fact, most of those buppies are about one or two paychecks away from poverty . All of which is under the control of our pens in our offices and our rooms. yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse to read , continue to buy anything they want , and keep thinking they are "helping" their communities by paying dues to organizations which do little other than hold lavish conventions in our hotels. By the way ,don't worry about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T READ!!!!! so what you'll think??

SB: lool; hello to you too; where you been hiding :confused: and no you cannot borrow my life Khalaf: désolé pour ne pas vous dire les bonnes nouvelles. Mais maintenant vous savez. je n'ai pas su que vous parlez français. j'aurais pratiqué mon français cassé sur vous MC hhmm, don't know if i wanna tell you now.

i'm too old for that crap.^^ been there, done that, moved on. :rolleyes: what are you talking about, i am a respected home girl and yes normality is what i want right now. lazy about for a while and do nothing but sleep and sleep and shop and sleep and earn easy money from work.

^^there a different ways of defending your beliefs, telling him to go to hell is not one of them. Originally posted by ScarFace: ibtisam just eat your fish & chips.......coz it seems like you havent got a single clue about somalia and its history.....how can you chat breeze when you havent even been raised in the bloody country.......the only people that can pass judgement is the ones that were there who went through the hardship and the ones that got the pleasures......for once will you stop repeating the same ole shit...... i know more about Somalia and its history than many Somalis that grew up there. What has being raised somewhere got to do with anything? As for people passing judgments, well at the end of the day i know injustice when i see/ hear/read one. i don't have to be in Palestine to understand the hardship. Nor do i have to have lived in Somalia to understand their hardship. first of all did the man kill your mother,father,brother or anyone in your family.... did he abuse your clan or your relatives....... if he did then you can hate him as much as you want........ Well according to your assessment, I am entitled to hate him as much as I want. It seems after all that I don't have to be present to have suffered under his rule. but the funniest thing is your half breed who hasnt been raised in somalia,..........and the amount of hate thats coming out of your mouth is just making me laugh.....the man is dead f...uck....he's dead......move on......he had his time./..... he lived his time........done things that were great in his time....done things that was bad........... And your point is?? I am not in a position to common on Somalia because YOU consider me as half breed. So what if he is dead, I hope he rots in hell. You cannot force down my throat how great He was, he was an asshole, and even when he is dead he is still an A*ss. move on and stop repeatin yourself....no one is portraying the man as a saint......whatever he did is between him and his lord.........BLOODY hell YOU KEEP SAYIN YOU DONT CARE ABOUT what clan he is but i think you do.........come correct [/QB] Everyone is aware of his crimes and it is documented. As for clan, I could not care less, I hate him as a human being, same way I hate Hitler and Sharon, Bush (and I’ve never lived under their rule either) It makes me sick that people are defending him and making excuses for him :rolleyes:

Back to normality: Sometimes your schedule gets messed up, your days blur into each other, you sleep when and if you get the chance, and you forget the notion of going out! On extreme cases you get withdrawal symptoms, spots, nose bleeds etc. It feels good to have your life back, woooooooohooo. No more dissertation!!!!! done, dusted!. I’m back to normal, in my boring job, counting the hrs to going home. weekend; sleep sleep sleep, shopping, sleep. bless

lool water; your work place is madness. there is a size 4/6 women of 25 in my work place who is on a diet the whole year around. I swear she has nothing but Yogurt for Lunch. I actually liked yogurt and salad before i started working in central London, where people consider it as a meal rather than an addition to your meal. My advice, eat as much as you want then dance and hit the gym. No need to starve your self, with a 2liters of water, 5fruits and a yogurt. :rolleyes: In saying that there are a lot more people around who are over weight, and need to get it under control for their own sake.

Actually what I meant by people arguing about clans is that those who say he is a hero mostly would be safe to say they are from the same clan as him. And those against him not his clan. What I’m trying to say is don’t judge someone if he is a national hero or not because what clan they are from. You think so?? :confused: i thought it was just their experience. In any case are your trying to tell me that all the people above who defended him are his clan!! i don't think so. i don't think it matters what clan he is from (i don't even know his clan or any other for that matter) But personally even if he was my uncle, i would have committed murder and double buried him.

^^^ i don't think people are argue because of his clan, rather whether he did anything for the country or not. It always surprises me that when people die they are portrayed as saints just because they are dead. The fact of the matter is that he was an ***** and a murder, the fact that he is dead is a blessing, too bad he did not take the rest of his war lords and soldiers with him. It would have gone along way to reduce resentment and complications that exists in Somalia now. I could not care what clan he was in any case.

If you can't find your clansman from the list, please don't be angry at me, just add him on the list and tell us why is he/she there. i can't find mine :mad: :mad: he is called ABDI ABDI MOHAMMED, he is from cave town

^^^it that so :rolleyes: :rolleyes: scarface you best run along and pay her a visit :rolleyes:

Sweden has withdrawn its aircraft from an international air exercise after finding out Israel was taking part. Sweden had been due to send six fighter jets to the Volcanex 2006 exercise in Italy as part of preparations for international peacekeeping operations. The government strongly denies Israeli media speculation that there was a political reason for pulling out or that it is boycotting Israel. The foreign ministry says it is down to appropriate use of limited resources. The Israeli press ran headlines of a "Swedish boycott" and the National Religious Party described the move as "anti-Semitic". Sweden traditionally sticks to a policy of neutrality, but is involved in UN peacekeeping and Nato's Partnership for Peace programme. It is nothing to do with relations with Israel, which are warm and important at this time Jan Eliasson Swedish Foreign Minister Swedish Defence Minister Leni Bjoerklund said the scenario for the exercise in May, involving 10 European countries, had initially been international peacekeeping missions. Not mentioning Israel by name, she said the armed forces were told at a late stage "that a state not belonging to the Partnership for Peace, and with which Sweden did not previously have bilateral military co-operation and which does not take part in international peacekeeping missions", was to take part. 'Practical' reason She said the government advised the armed forces that "Sweden's participation was no longer regarded as appropriate". Foreign Minister Jan Eliasson said due to the high cost of taking part and limited resources, Sweden had to focus on exercises that involved its immediate partners. "We don't see Israel as a country that we will in all probability co-operate with in peacekeeping operations for the time being," he said. He said it was in no way a boycott and was "purely practical". Mr Eliasson said his ministry would talk to the Israeli government to reassure them of their position. source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4950980.stm

^^^you wish :rolleyes: scarface you wish too, get a life you losers :rolleyes: you could not get within 30miles of me :rolleyes:

^^^loool. trouble maker!!

loool yeah about 2mins; what! them books are depressing. :rolleyes:

look at the difference between now and back then..... the people wer healthy, eating and happy.....some wer happy others werent....different situation....different times...different people.... What!!! Maybe you were happy, healthy and eating well, but there are many who will disagree with you. Situations are the product of time. The current situation is a direct result of the Siyaad’s bad rule, which has been reproduced, time and time again. I doubt you will ever get a Somali government that cares 2cents about anyone but the little town and diverting funds.

ThePoint i will try and find you a good book on the issue. Scarface :rolleyes: that’s 21years that I didn’t see, I guess it depends on where you (your family was sitting) some people are not so thankful for his crimes. As far as i am concerned, he and every single warlord are idiotic, evil people that deserve the back of my shoe. And people who have admiration for them need to be slapped into reality no disrespect. In fact i am against any Somali man over the age of 35, they are the roots of all problems, and responsibly for spreading hate and twistedness/ backwardness. Get rid of them an dyou will get peace in somalia

yes i have only ever seen one farah there and i've been a regular for 3years that i've been at uni . Heaven on earth

Ibtisam we have ourselves a date me no take no for answer any time sis. as long as you don't drag ur farahs with you. For shisha. Oxford street has many places, that are cheap and cheerful. not telling you where, don't want it backed out with SOL farahs

Firstly. I have no attachments or blinded by any tribe, someone who lacks a tribe themselves does not affiliate themselves with people that they do not share anything with. So you are wrong to assume that I am blinded by tribe etc. My pass 15yrs have been perfect, living on fish and chips is not hard at all. But as a human rights campaigner I have issues with that man. The problems Somalia is having up to till this day is an extension of his evil actions. He hired a couple of hold guys to write the alphabets, mind you, it is not necessarily a good things, not from my perspectives, because if it was not for him, Somalis would've still been using Arabic, and i would be having an easy life. In any case I think at times someone’s faults and human rights abuses can far over weigh any supposed good they did. Back to Mandela, what you have typed in one version, the popularised version. Read around and you will find his so called four by four cell looks different from m angle. Good luck with your research. Cheers