Ibti..it feels like you are talking about me. My brother and his wife call each other "babes, honey, xabiibi" in front of my parents and sometimes they hug or cuddle. This could be embrassing for others. But to me..there is no way i could say any of that infront my friends/siblings let alone my parents. I feel that this is to do with the issue of modesty, and the issue of keeping ones romance/love/affection behind closed doors. Of course I cant speak for others. No not at all, they were not aimed at you personally or anyone else. I don't know you to make assumptions. In any case I think you are still getting me wrong, I was not referring to romance/ affection/ love, but just basic interaction. In any case every person takes with them their own personality to every situation and the deen is the same. I personal just don't like the term waada and Shike, they have been so over used and abused that they have lost their meaning and significant in distinguishing God fearing people from others. I think a new name is badly needed. loool @dashid, please don't send the hood rats to the mosque to temp the maskeen that come there to hide out.

:rolleyes: they way you two follow each other about, i'm not suprised Urban did the test for you two, in fact he got there before me, i would've done the same thing :cool:

^^having a bad day Dear^^@sharmark^ or maybe just bad manners :rolleyes: Maybe we need new Mod, some clearly need to be deleted. I know where the door is. Hello CL. I only ever Hijack topics i think are not worthy of any discussion in the first place (like why are women fat!!) :rolleyes: .. but yeah i'm sure she was talking about me. Val I have an idea, maybe admin should allow people to delet their threads, i'm sure some people post in moments of madness and when they see it later wish they never did that.

^^ I think thats what the moderators are here for? or maybe not, maybe they should do a good Spring clean. I'm sure they are busy now, soon they will be back and deleting everything like the old days.

A friend of mine is developing this project and she's asked me to let people know in case anyone wants to do it: --------------------- Yalu Theatre Company are seeking professional and non professional Muslim performers to take part in a new project currently in its second stage of development - 'The Hijab project' (working title). The piece explores ideas of female Muslim identity in Britain and uses the experiences of Muslim women in Slough as points of departure. The project has been funded by Arts Council England SE and the European Social Fund and will involve an intensive rehearsal period leading towards a sharing for funders and possible partner venues on 14th March. Dates: Friday 9th March - Weds 14th March. Times: 10.30 – 18.30 each day Location: West Wing, Slough Audition: 1st March 2007 time TBC Yalu Theatre Company are looking for professional Muslim actresses from all ethnic backgrounds with good movement and improvisation skills and a desire to explore this sensitive work. Applications from emerging performers and new performers looking to develop their skills are also welcomed. Performers will be paid related to experience. We are also seeking a professional vocalist to support this project who can sing in a wide range of vocal styles including Middle Eastern. If you are interested in applying for this work please send your CV and headshots to hijabproject@hotmail.com or contact 01753 47 66 51 for more information

Woow, these pictures are so nice, damn, why did we even leave the place, let alone stay away so long. I wonder how these places look now

Ibti xabiibti I really cant speak for wadaad couples but i can shed some light as to why they are formal when outside. I see couples that are married kissing, holding hands, sitting in each others laps in public. Why is there a need to perform for the public? Just cos you dont see wadaad couple being effectionate with each other in public, it doesnt mean that they are boring or that they dont do what other couples do. Everybody (men and women) have feelings and they are intimmate but the difference is their modesty. And Thank God for that. I would hate to grabbed in public by my husband. Any stranger out there would see a muhajaba being grabbed by a man as they have no way of knowing that he is my husband. I have an image to uphold as a muslimah and as such I should act like one. that’s not what I meant honey. Public display is bit distasteful if you ask me, I would hate to see a doomed out sister standing on a street corner with her husband who is dressed as a Muslim. I would have to shout "get a room" just kidding, but that is not what I meant. In my experience and I have spent my whole life around waado couples and families, they are formal with each other, even in their speech, the structure is often (not always rigid) and they get too tangled up on my rights over you etc. Obviously there are normal couples as well, In the Somali community it might be more down to culture than religion. I don't have a problem with waado's. But every Tom and Harry lay claims to being waado, so I think there are many Fake people who use religion to their advatage when it suits them, and act against it when it does not. I have learnt that the amount of chapters you finish, maadress you teach at or how many volumes of riiyaad uu salhin or taasfir of ibn Khathir you swelled, religion or waadinmo can only be attained via the practice of what you accumulate.

:eek: :eek: Exposed: lets just say i lost total respect for some people who posted on this thread :rolleyes: I thought this site was moderated :cool:

wow reading that was painful. On similar issue, I think waada couples have very formal marriages, it is kind of strange. But then I think Somali couples have strange marriages: I swear all they talk about is how the kids are and food and clothing and cleaning So what of the somali waada couples sorry, no doubt Cambraro will hit me over the head for saying that. From the outside they appear to be boring each others brains out :rolleyes: Maybe thats why divorce rates are high :confused: Azmaya: He can't have been much of a waada if he hanged out with you and your friends hun (no offence) he might just have been a shy guy, which is different to a waad guy.

^^stop bullying the girl, khaasaab maayah AAliyah I'm not looking forward to being bored out of mind and since i don't know any one there, i have to keep busy! and i can't enjoy myself doing nothing (if you can call that enjoying yourself) for the rest of my life i die of bordom lool @lalala baalbala

^^i knew here was a reason i liked you ^^

^^right I'm glad for the insight honey, but sweetie really you don't say. Maybe you are not so observant after all, even though you insist on observing my habits I'm here Monday to Friday between during my work hrs and excluding break times lets just say some of us are good at dosing during work hrs. Why baad iiga daabashakhaanisa may I ask? That it self is shaaqo laana :rolleyes:

Nacasnimo Haalaa iimianni aaniga please < when you finish trying to read what the hell that says, you will find the door lool

How does that Equal anything, it is a chain process, in the order of relevance, first and foremost you the Quran (all said) if you can't find in their you check the hadith of the prophet (Mohammed (PBUH) said...etc. If you want to play childish games by all means go ahead do it on your own. As for your level, May Allah increase it for you, and give you the ability to understand and reason is all I can say, I’m not in a some kind of race nor I'm egoistic. Once again you are hiding behind other issues to avoid the real issue. I believe you have nothing more to say and will leave you to your self acclaimed statuses of the knowledgeable one. When and if you ever answer the question directly, we shall see.

^^you know where the door is honey, use it! who invited you in anyway :rolleyes:

^^You know I read that through and you have yet to present any evidence. All I saw was self admiration and arrogance mixed with rudeness and personal attacks. I won't even mention your manners or lack of it, shall I say. When has this patronizing/ arrogance and rudeness become the way of Islam. You should be ashamed of your self, :mad: What happened to humble, nobility, goodness and politeness in people who aim to as you claim “educate people!” The issue is not whether I have doubts in my religion or not (that’s none or your business) nor is it about any other topic that I have commented on, or about me as a person, or what you know or do not know, or how important or knowledgeable you are, frankly I could not care less. And my ignorance is not your concern either, now show me a clear evidence without insulting me, or getting my personal belief involved or dragging anything else in. I don't want your opinion, I want evidence. Let me clarify that for you shall I. Evidence in Islam is (Allah said, the prophet said, the Sahab said and finally the scholars said) I don't see your name on that list brother, no offense. p.s. I am so glad I'm not on your level, alhumudlilah

Honey I told you aadiga aay toontay saakhayaan ppl, out of the million ethnicity you could have chosen from :rolleyes: I did not expect anything better from them anyway, in fact when I warned you about them, you were tripping about how I was jealous coz Capitan was in the army and knew who to shoot while JAc was a reer baddiya (hence you had the best of both worlds :rolleyes: ) you need to learn from your mistake and get on with it. Time to stop over eating that ice creAM, come see when you want a real man and i'll show you were they are kept locked up

^loool^ miskeen. looool. sorry i nearly choked on my salad when I read that, who the hell keeps money inside their bar these days, i remember in my retail years few money started digging money out of there, i was horrified to say the least! Well sorry dear but serves you right for being a gold digger and leaving all your money at home or spending it on bags and the biggest crime of all time: going on a date with a farah, what was you thinking Girl! Now now easy there on the ice cream dream, you are going to be OK

Every muslim knows that and it is like asking proof for zakaat, fasting in the holy month of Ramadan or going to Hajj and Umra, can you see it? Total and absolute non-starters. Khalas! Finito! Understand? I doubt it. What is wrong with asking for proof of Zaaka and Fasting, the evidence is there for whoever needs it regardless of if it is obviouse or not. You made a claim, so support it from the Quran and sunnah otherwise don't impose it on people. The burden on prove lies with the one who is making the claim, for we know that everything is hala unless it has been said that it is haram with evidence. On this issue i have only come across the hadith northerner posted and that is in relation to the jews! No one knows who will die as a Muslim or as a non Muslim, and wishing someone Salam has not been a major problem in different school of thoughts! With the exception of the Salafi's who maintain that you can not say the last part of the full salaam, which is their opinion.

CL i made the tea, girl what did he do to you, you poor thing. I had an idea you might be singing This but i guess i was wrong DO tell, here is the ice cream and double choc cookies

^^lool^^ nice come back. Haaye JACy biie sheekadi kuu jeestah Either way i'm worried what you two did to the poor girl, she did not show up for work today and her phone has been off. I might have to call 999 is she does not show up soon!

^^go on?? split the beans, she is gonna give me a full up date anyway, don't you know girls talk (about everything, sooner or later I’m hear how you flopped big time, so you might as well get your side heard first

I wanted to stick my tongue out at ya, but they don't have the face on here. So how was you night out with CL??

i want to be there. boohoo, thats never happened in London

^^loool. yeah right :rolleyes: