Adiga qosl iyo deeldel ey kula tahey, laking these are people's life we are talking about. Well there has been lots of blood, too much that victory no longer matters because no one is winning, everyone is losing.

Xaaji Xunjuf;702025 wrote: Ibtisam indeed waxa fiican qof qadiyadisa ku dhinta, however some one can see the light look at keyse he was the mayor of widiwidh for puntland then he joined ssc then he joined NSUM then he joined ssc again. And last but not least he joined Somaliland it could mean that he found out that Nationhood is much and much better then tribalism Aint you a dreamer? It means he is a man with no principles who is selling his people to the highest bidder. Nationhood kulaha, I saw pigs fly

I hate flip floppers- they are the ones who create and fan this crazyness so they can get paid and double paid- shame for selling your own people even AFTER people have died. THat;s assuming XX is not creating news

bilan;702009 wrote: Ibti seriously do you not see the difference between SSC war with SL and TFG one, but let me try if the war between SSC clan and SL was about 2 clans fighting it would not be a big deal after all these people have been fighting since Allah created them in these areas, so it would not be a surprise to anyone or big deal odayo would sit together, exchange geel end of story.. but the what is going on in SSC is about principle, it is about SL forcing its ideology on people who do not want it, and finally it is forcing SSC people to become second class citizen or minority in their own country, so there is no way we can compare what is going on in Mogadisho to what is taking place is SSC. I support SSC,becauseI agree with SSC that Somalia cannot be divided, and I support TFG because TFG is fighting to get Somalia as a country back to its feet, so honestly I do not see how the two are contradicting each other. BTW it is SL who is forcing people out of their homes so if you are supporting SL I do not really see why you cannot support TFG. I don’t support SL in any military capacity, so there is no contradictions in my values; laakin here is my problem; if you support SSC because SL is being unjust and forcing them etc, then with the same token you should NOT be supporting the TFG who is trying to impose their rule on the Whole south region with foreign military force. We disagree because you think TFG will get Somalia back on its feet, I think that's like cutting off the two front legs of an elephant and still expecting it to get up on its two back legs and support its full weight like that- i.e. impossible. TFG has taken the lifes of so many more Somalis in their years (yes the names have changed and different leaders, but the rotation has been from the same pile) and this cycle will continue until something out of that cycle comes along. You are wasting people life because at this stage people will support the devil himself if he guaranteed them peace laakin as always that train is never late and after more loss of life TFG will shrink back and new meetings will install new leaders and so on. Anwar, I must have missed that, what did they do??? al shabab is still chopping people up and chasing each other backwards and forwards since 2006.

Ima diibto if you or anyone (and they do) started threads about how great their USC or SSDF or D clan is, good for them, max ii waley aan uu daab carari, if it is something worth admiring I will say well done and congrats, if it is just faanfan then wa arag oo daaf. Did you ever investigate- maybe if you stop paying them attention and freaking out over their praises wey iska amus lahaein?? I find it hypocritical that people who were goading the clan war between SSC and local SL clans in other threads, laakin when it comes to TFG suddenly daadka waxad ku xukumysa that they sleep with the devil? I agree with Vans, TFG maha alternative or even half an alternative.

So many threads about Somaliland each at least 3pages long- surely there is only so much that can be said :cool: As for the topic, maxa ka galey nin geel baadan, if Somaliland wants to get its people yaa ku heesta? go and get them and take em back please!!! It can only be a good thing even if they take ONE person

@ JB A message to the UK Gov ... in Somali :confused:

^I hope it is not, afar bilcil iyo two cows after this build up :D

Jb, I want to see this place- write it down in your growing list of places to take me

Well it is friday morning @ Juxa :D

I'll be in the sky, yeah yeah yeah, I'll be in the sky. Salamalikum and Jumca Mubarak ppl

Why should Somalis die for 7 Danish people? They are not being harmed, pirates wa business lacagtoda ha siiyo and they shall let them go, no need for families to lose their sons- either that or the Danish should send their own troops. AUN to wixi dintey

Liqaye;701002 wrote: ^^^ Ibtisam respectfully sometimes it is a good thing to realize when the situation has moved on from benevolent neutrality, when it moves on from prudence or farsightedness to just pure cowardice to be sitting on a fence when it is stained with blood. For me your views in this day and age are just fifth columnist rumbling akin to when people ask " did AS really bomb hotel shamo?". The honest thing is that bad government will and can be improved, and AS will only improve you permanently by giving you a one way ticket to heaven. P.S I do not mean you personally are a fifth columnist just mean you are putting you as deep in danger as reverend neimoller. With respect my dear I am not sitting on the fence, but here is what you and GD asked us to pick from; 1- Al-Shabab: A bunch of kids who are uncompromisingly blood-thirsty with guns and ability to play ghost and melt into the crowd if things get hot, in the process killing and taking everyone down with them in their quest for power. 2- TFG: A politically weak and inept entity which has existed a number of years without any impact, a contributor to the mess and most importantly led by a former Jihadist- the father of Al shabab who is now the puppet of Eithos- The same people we didn’t want in the country as far back as Abdililah Yusuf. The same people who were in here calling the TFG gaalo for inviting foreign troops are now heading the TFG with the same foreign troops and asking for more. How can anyone have faith in that, in him, in the organisation he leads, in foreign troops? How can we accept it from HIM when we rejected it from Abdililah Yusuf? TFG is accountable because they are THE government, but how can people have confidence in former warlords and Jihadist backed by foreign troops? IT shows at once again a desperate man trying to hold on to power and extend his term. It is no coincides this push is coming now, and at the expense of Somali people, the civilians and those too weak to leave the city. Al shabab is evil, no doubt about that and they have distorted the teaching of Islam for their own gain, but so has Sharif, they are both after power, whatever the cost. So please don’t patronize me and try to paint one with the bright brush. I understand why Duke feels the need to support TFG after all it would be hypocritical of him not be a supporter now as he was in 2009, laakin I am venomously against any foreign intervention and I believe the more and longer foreign troops pour into Somalia, the bigger support Al shabab will receive both from the young Somalis and outsiders to resist the invaders. Without the Ethiopians and foreign troops Al shabab have no relevance or support; with them in the country and a pitiful alternative that is TGF, they have nationalize and fighting invaders to cling on to justify their case. TFG will never win, Al shabab will melt into the background only to resurface again once the push subsides- the country cannot be kept on emergency lock down with foreign military forever. So tell me now what is the use in backing TFG, when I know as well as I know my own name that TFG will once again be chased back to the 5km they use to control taking casualties that exceed that of the hotel and students, if people died one at a time by a bullet, does it make their death any less important, far more people died in the recent bombing and push than in the hotel. So you go and support the TFG, put your faith and your keyboard and your voice behind them, I am going to support something worth supporting when I see that alternative, but for now I am with the people and the civilians and I will do what I can for them.

GD wa markad inhad isku so tuur jirtey; YOU replied and said I said this and that, when I ask you about your LIES you say look at the title of the thread. Caawlimo xumo wye kan. Carry on kiddo, knock yourself out- :cool:

^^^yad yad ya is all I heard GD; Sister or not, I didn’t say what you claimed I said; As for I rush in here when yad ya and whatever is mentioned- in case u missed it- I post on here about everything- clearly u always have your clan glasses on and see things in that way. If Godane and Afgghani were my family (I don’t mean clan I mean family) that still will not make ME feel responsible for Somalia's current situation, its not that I don’t understand, it is that I am not involved and refuse to be so. Weligaba, I am not spew madness- I told you beenta iga daa and come out of your bubble. Again you are telling me about NGONGE views- THOSE are not mine- they are HIS; what part of that did you not understand brother :cool: Polnyi: If XX is from Somaliland then he should be kept in a special place along with few others and only allowed out once in a while.

XX is your creation- the person who says nutty things SO you can feel justified to have an rant and outburst about a particularly clan. Its pretty pathetic GD so everyone ignores this little show of my clan is better than urs. You may have contributed to the chaos by supporting one warlord or another or wherever your uncle is head at but I don’t pay for or support anyone in Somali politics. Excuses me if I don’t feel responsible for everything an Issa*q person does by default. So no I don’t feel like I had any ROLE in creating anything in Somalia or even Somaliland good or bad, let alone mayhem. Lastly, grow up!!!! stop making up lies about what I said; don’t CREATE lies about what I said, while I am here; find where I said Somaliland is different and unique??? Horta iilah miyaad ka baaqenini? I am ME, not a clan and I answer in life as a person not a clan; so all this "you did this and that iska jooji" particularly considering most of the posters here (aside from JB) are a welfare raised product from the streets of western cities and awr halabey ciid kuma wediso let alone a clan- yes including you. Realitycheck for you there; ^ P.s. The GIRL is called Ibtisam- try be a man- once in a while. :cool:

You and your waali- yeah wa altera ego/ sasha of someone :rolleyes: Caadi maba aha

^^Real what? human? who reads and writes af somali- yes I would think so.

NG anigu miyaan "billa" maxa iga kaley nin geel baadan ma gaajo ayan ka cabsanaya. Creative or otherwise anigu xool uuma diranayo.

JB Maxad ku qosli- Xajji Xanjuf is your friend- marmar wax uu sheeg, ever heard that saying "ninkii waalan, tolkiis ayaa uu miyir qaba" Be a toll for the dude and help him

Juxa I agree, just saw his posts in the politics section- not the result of a boy with "mental health issues" Van, SOLers once welcomed 8-10 newbie’s in a matter a few days( each opened a thread saying I am new from a different place wlc me, each had a different personality and different genders)- it turned out afterwards that all the accounts were one and the same person- since then when a newbie says welcome me, everyone assumes it is the same person until we see a few more posts So wlc and so daaf and I hope you enjoy your time in this asylum. Juxa do you remember the time no one believe Caadan was really a white man on a Somali forum and they made him post pictures, and still no one believed him so he posted a picture of him holding signs with memebers names on them :D :D lol

Wait: you guys are complaining about $66-$70 for a whole tank?, seriously that is cheaper than London- its around £65 here- which is I guess $80 or so; But then again normally people just use the public transport. Me thinks the prices need to go up a bit more to keep up

^^^THAT is NASTY on so many levels; :eek:

Somalis always want to chose between two evils and say it is the lesser evil; They are BOTH bad, I can't bring myself to support either (by funds or arms) and I would not be willing to die for either, both have crimes to answer for, and both are responsible for burning Somalis to the ground. Even worse Shariff has invited foreign troops back who as always are quick to shoot and build support for the madness of Al shabab. Xajji Xanjuf and GD have more in common then I thought- XX is telling Duke (a forum name to fix Somalia) and GD is telling XX your clan is responsible for all the mess. Waali.com

JUXA: Salams dear breath and police ha uu yeedin!!! JB yaa? waxad tiidiba lagu yiid