^^^Ignorant people, well sadly that would cover 95% of the somali men. I don't agree, I'm just aware that these views are there and I have to contend with. It would be silly to deny them and act blind.

^^^You are still half Arab old man, I'm not going to argue about reality with you. I run into these realities on daily basis. Apparently women also don’t have a brain nor should they disagree with the self important Somali men. :rolleyes:

^^What the hell do these dots mean? you are posting them all over the forum.

^^That is the reality old man, I don't like it either. :mad: So have a word with your brothers.

^^^Inshallah. @Poker Bit to late for that now, I invested in long coastal lines instead

^^^YEah evidently, big issues, allah haa kuu saahalo. Do you often think everyone wants something from you?

^^I meant I will get someone to vouch for me As for getting involved, I will continue to work with NGOs, but I have no interest in the politics.

^^^No it just start of term, Exams finished in Dec. So sad of you to think they were just using Gaza as an excuse! LOL

A number of Muslim soldiers have been dismissed from the French army for refusing to go to Afghanistan to fight their "Muslim brothers", The Herald can reveal. A military spokesman in Paris confirmed yesterday that disciplinary action, including termination of contracts, was being taken against "a relatively small number" of Muslim personnel. Although French law does not permit the manpower of the armed services to be broken down according to religion, almost every regiment in the army contains immigrants of North African or Arab origin. A spokesman said: "The government chooses to order the military to engage in operations. Individuals within the military do not choose their own missions. Such cases are relatively rare, affecting as few as five soldiers a year. The vast majority of those within the ranks of the army, navy or air force who follow the Islamic faith perform their assigned duties without question." The most recent case involved a Muslim from the French 1st Infantry Regiment, based near Sarrebourg on the Moselle. Having expressed his reluctance to face fellow-Muslims on the battlefield, he was persuaded to follow orders by a Muslim chaplain. But when he reached training for deployment to Afghanistan, he went sick for three weeks and could not be sent. France has 2600 soldiers and airmen serving as part of the NATO mission in Afghanistan and has lost 25 dead so far, including 10 killed in a Taliban ambush last year. A British doctor, who has done two tours of duty in Iraq, has been tried in a London military court and convicted for refusing to make another trip to the battlefield. Only one British serviceman, Flight Lieutenant Malcolm Kendall-Smith, an officer in the RAF, has been punished for conscientious objection since 2003. He was sentenced to eight months in prison two years ago for calling the US-led war an "act of aggression" and refusing to participate any further - an action the British military considered an illegal act of defying a lawful order. A handful of others have been quietly allowed to leave the armed forces, including at least one Muslim. Source: here

...why doesn't Israel swap an F-16 for some? The worrying part about whether the ceasefire in Gaza can hold together will be whether the international community can stop the flow of arms to the terrorists. Because Israel's getting their planes and tanks and missiles from somewhere and until this supply is cut off there's every chance it could start up again. The disregard for life from these terrorists and their supporters is shocking. For example Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist, wrote that the purpose of the Israeli attack must be to "inflict a heavy death toll and heavy pain on the Gaza population". Replace "Gaza" with "western", and that could have been written by al-Qa'ida. Maybe this is the problem: the Israelis are writing their policies by downloading statements from an Islamic Jihad website and just changing the place names. Also, if the Israelis think the Hamas rockets are as lethal as they say, why don't they swap their F-16 fighters and Apachehelicopters for a few of them? These things are capable of terrorising a whole nation for years apparently, yet the Israelis have neglected to buy any, wasting their money on gunboats and stuff. Given that their annual arms budget is $7.2bn plus $2.2 bn in "aid", they'd save enough to buy a selection of banks in every country in the world. The military advantages would be enormous because the Israelis' complaint about Hamas is the use of tunnels to smuggle arms. But if Israel gave Hamas a few planes and tanks and helicopters, they could probably be persuaded to shut down those tunnels that seem to be the cause of such bad feeling. Whatever you say about Israel, at least it moves its weapons about legally – except for when it secretly built a nuclear arsenal against an array of international agreements. But they did it above ground and not in a tunnel and that's the main thing. Watching the reports from Gaza, another reason why the ceasefire may break down becomes apparent. The Israelis might claim that their satellite pictures now show Palestinians in possession of huge mounds of rubble – lethal if thrown over the border. Luckily these weapons are easy to spot. Most of them are next to women howling, "Look what they've done to my house," but perhaps the airforce should bomb them again – just in case. The Israelis say they fear Hamas will once again break the ceasefire by sending over those rockets. But the whole point of the operation was to make that impossible. Because they must have asked themselves the question, "If we slaughter 1,300 people, including 300 children, is that likely to make people: A. less cross or B. more cross?" And presumably they concluded it will make them much less likely to grow up full of hatred and determination to retaliate. Perhaps they saw medical research that shows when someone is suffering from anxiety and bouts of irascible ill-tempered behaviour, the best treatment is to pen them in with no food or medicine and then kill some of them, and that calms them down a treat. Another way to allay their worries about Hamas breaking the ceasefire is to read the report from their government's own Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre. This states that during the ceasefire "Hamas did not take part in any rocket fire and sometimes prevented other organisations from attacking." Still, with all that's been going on I suppose they haven't had time for reading. Despite all this there might be one cheery sign, which is that never before have so many people seen through the Israeli government's excuses for handing out mass destruction. The demonstrations in support of Palestinians have been bigger than ever before, and even the United Nations and the Wall Street Journal have suggestedIsrael has committed war crimes. One poll in America suggested that 60 per cent of people opposed the bombardment, and the change of opinion reached the point that an Israeli diplomat has admitted that "The harm to civilians in Gaza is causing us huge damage." Maybe, best of all, was genetics expert Steven Rose who appeared on Radio 4's Today programme to talk about a new study that's located "morality spots", the part of the brain that deals with our morality. Asked how we could know whether this was true, he said in a marvellously posh academic Radio 4 voice "Well we could test the brains of the Israeli cabinet and see if they've got no morality spots whatsoever." And the most immoral part of all is the perfectly cynical timing, as if three weeks ago Bush shouted: "Last orders please. Any last bombing, before ; time's up? Come along now, haven't you got homes to demolish?" Source: The independent

Students at King's College London are staging a sit-in protest on campus over the treatment of Palestinians in Gaza and the honorary doctorate bestowed on the Israeli president, Shimon Peres. In the latest of a flurry of occupations at English universities in response to Israel's actions in Gaza, more than 100 students took over a lecture theatre in the university yesterday. Kings students are demanding that the university issue a formal statement condemning Israel's bombing of Gaza and revoke the honorary doctorate Peres was awarded in November last year. The protesters also want King's, and its vice-chancellor, Rick Trainor, to provide five fully funded scholarships for Palestinian students, help organise a cross-campus fundraising day, establish links with educational institutions in Gaza, and donate any surplus educational resources to them. In addition, they are calling for King's to publish a list of any links it has with the arms trade. In a statement, the students said: "We stand in solidarity with the people of Gaza and refuse to let our university, one which we are very proud of being a part of, award a doctorate to a man who has not only been an advocate of the recent brutality in Gaza, but also a protagonist in the history of bloodshed that has scarred the Middle East." They added: "It is important to note that there have not been university occupations like this since the anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s." Erin O'Byrne, a first-year law student, said: "It's disgraceful that Shimon Peres was given an honorary doctorate. None of us think that can be done in our name. "There's usually a lot of apathy among students especially in King's, which is quite conservative, but the humanitarian crisis in December pushed people into doing something now." She said the university was allowing the protest but ignoring the students' demands. King's said Peres's doctorate was in recognition of his past efforts to find a peaceful solution to conflicts in the Middle East, and there were no plans to take the "unprecedented action of revoking the award". A spokeswoman said the university's senior officers understood the reason behind the protest. It would make no formal statement, but concurred with a statement made by Trainor on behalf of the vice-chancellors' group, Universities UK (UUK). Trainor, UUK's president, said: "UUK supports calls for an end to the conflict in and beyond Gaza. We are particularly aware that many of the civilian casualties have occurred in educational establishments. "The UK's universities are resolutely committed to the right to education, enshrined in the UN universal declaration of human rights. Higher education, in particular, is a global activity and we value our academic links with universities all over the world. "The international nature of higher education means it is a force for understanding, tolerance and respect between peoples." Over the last week, students have held occupations in five other universities: the School of Oriental and African Studies, the London School of Economics, Essex, Birmingham and Sussex. The director of Soas, Paul Webley, said it would be "inappropriate for the school to make any overtly political statement as an institution". In a further indication of rising tensions on campus, a campaigning group against antisemitism, Engage, has claimed that students and lecturers at Soas have been trying to cancel a series of lectures on Tel Aviv at 100 by Prof Colin Shindler. It said Shindler, professor of Israel studies at Soas, had been bombarded with "highly aggressive, vituperative emails" from many people, but most worryingly from his academic colleagues and fellow members of the University and College Union. In a letter to staff, Shindler said it was "terribly unfortunate" that the timing of the lecture series had coincided with the situation in Gaza. "Any call for cancelling this series will be seen as not based on opposition to the centenary, but on the participation of Israeli academics; a resurrection of the attempt to boycott academics simply because they are Israeli regardless of their opinion about the tragedy in Gaza. Soas as an institution and the British government have always strongly opposed and condemned such a boycott," he said. "Academic institutions rightly do not suppress different narratives and different opinions." Adam Pike, national chairman of the Union of Jewish Students, said: "The recent protests, which have been met with widespread derision from students, have served only to inflame tensions and increase intimidation. "UJS is really concerned about the creation of an unsafe atmosphere for Jewish students at university and, while we will do all we can to support our students, we expect the leadership of the higher education sector to do all in their power as well. "We shouldn't let political fringe groups determine the kind of university experience that all students, including Jewish ones, have while on campus. The rising levels of antisemitic incidents across the UK should be a cause for concern for everyone." Guardian One of the main campuses at Oxford was taken over by students yesterday as well, interestingly enough, most of the participants are not Muslim. EDIT: Add Warwick, Birmingham Leeds, Manchester Met, and Newcastle who have campuses taken over by students. The Muslim students are joining late at last as they are a majority in these universities.

^^I'm female my support or lack of it counts for nothing. When and if I want to work in BU and they tell me no for my lack of support, I will just get a second husband who is a well known SL supporter.

A&T and those against sharif, I don't see your point, if the likes of Yey, Nur cadde, Mohammed Dheer and the other Mohammed, not to mention Morgan and Aidid's child, qanyar and every other warlord can all aim to be Somali president and have people supporting them, Sharif is the lesser evil or should we say the better option for Somalia. He will have a real struggle with Al Shabab though, it is near impossible to deal with such decentralized organisation.

You guys are really early, you do know it is not even Feb yet

^^^Blessed, Nep and KK were up in this house before, but then sheh started shouting "the roof, the roof is on fire" and they run out, we never saw them again LOOOL @ Spy on people, SS you are mad! LOOL, I had a imagine of you sneaking planting all these little cameras, in his pocket, a pen camera, watch that picks up sound so you can hear what he says to others, a sensory one on his shorts HAHAHA Actually in London via your mobile phone you can spy on your partner, every time you text a number, it will text you their location, so if he said he is at work and then you find out he is in the opposite side of town, oh boy trouble eh.

Waaxan kuu qoosley waa shaydamiin kuligood because Ngonge wrote about this on the general section a while back, then I saw waa dad ilaahay nacay I was like :eek:

The cartoon is beyond sad Waalhi. Subxanallah, graphic iga deeh.

Originally posted by Qalbi-Adeyg: These secessionists waa majnuun, waa dad is nacay, waa dad ilaahay nacay, waa dad walaahood nacay, waa shaydamiin kuligood. :eek: @ waa dad ilaahay nacay, I don't know which is worse^^^ or when you wanted to rape their women :rolleyes:

Now that we've got your attention, here's what really happened. A bus driver refused to drive a bus carrying an atheist advert. The driver in Question was Mr Ron Heather who objected because the message conflicted with his Christian faith. The Telegraph covered the story on a fairly factual basis without any sensationalist rhetoric. Whereas the Mail used the opening phrase "For the devout Christian and man of principle, it was a step too far" Just imagine how different the coverage would have been if the bus driver was Muslim? Still not convinced Islamophobia exists? Mpacuk.org Telegraph headline: "Atheist bus adverts: Christian refuses to drive bus declaring 'there's probably no God'" Daily Mail headline: "Christian refuses to drive bus with atheist message: 'There's probably no God'"

^^^YEah as long as they have Burco iska deeh I'm kidding Ngonge, *ducks*

^^^LOOL It is not good to be paranoid and suspicious either. If you don't trust and think the best of people you will find fault with everyone. Don't be sad about it. LOOL @ SS, I guess it is just not in my nature, I think it depends on your childhood, I was a lone child and use to keep everything to myself, play by myself, go out by myself, I'm still largely the same . As for the lady, I think she was doing on her own, she had a little plan that she was going to spy on him and find some facts, by the time they talked her up, it did not matter that she had no evidence and was just going to sound like an emotional paranoid women. He probably just laughed at her, and her family told her bring the proof or keep your husband. Now he knows she is watching him and will be careful.

^^What do you mean?? You want him to take you there?

What does mganaga mean? loos women?

I was waiting for the punch line Ngonge, but all i got was a slight dig LOOl Thanks, kept me company while I had lunch

Malika only reason I go to politics is because this place is slowly dying, I need to annoy people and piss people off on daily basis dee. If the general section is live, you won't see me in politics. LOOL nunne I'm not that hopless. But you guys should teach me one word a day. Malika deal?