It should also say if you spray like that see a urologist ASAP. Loool @ He thinks he is on a diet!

Next week he is going to pull up all the East London crew, HAHA should be interesting to see what follows for the local brothers. I found it interesting, although I agree with Toaster, like the Muslim driving school it is JUST Pakistanis rather than about Muslims. Toaster do you want to participate?? The thing is the only people who agree to speak to the media as mullahs with bad english and attention seekers, it is not suprise the Ajurm Choudray are always speaking for us.

North; that is a lot of food, I don't think you need all that. It is part of your iman for you to eat only till your hunger goes! Iska kal daa will you. Juxa: Eat your cake women, who cares.

A&T you are on thin line, adigu deenta ha ka saarin. I have yet to see Castro, Lazy G claim to be anything but Muslims. As for Ailamos,Cara and Naden I have yet to see them claim anything. Nor have I seen them openly mocking Islam like Cicero or being disruptive or demeaning to Islam. The fact that they have different views or ideas does not mean that they cannot discuss Islam. The fact that they are not as militant as me or as rigid as Khyr or as fasex as you does not give you the right to push them into one camp or another. I don’t like what is going on here because you are making enemies out of people who have kept to the normal lines of discussion and the rules of respect, despite having their own doubts. It is irrelevant what people believe or don’t believe as long as they respect that we believe and therefore it is not open for mockery (note this does not mean it cannot be discussed). Islam requires us to question yourself rather than blind following, why then can we not be more patient with people who has some questions, and take the time explain rather than legitimizing their hostility, isolating them in their own misconceptions. You are the current ambassador of Islam, so by all means defend and stick up for vision and ensure what is sacred to us remains so, but this is bordering on military operation. Allah knows best which one of us will die as a Muslim, but for the time being don’t be responsible for pushing someone who had doubts or aqeeda problems into complete denial, dambika adiga aya lago heesta. What I find mind blogging is that most of you work with non-Muslim colleagues, neighbours etc, you all interact with them in a civilize manner and even occasional preach to them, so why do you suddenly flip out when you meet a Somali or an online character who questions your position. :confused:

Someone PM me something you said :mad: I don't know if I am talking to you anymore! Something about wax gaaban, buuran or maadow! Xagaad igu aragtey? :mad: Juxa I cannot believe the madness he got away with, look what Oz quoted? :mad:

Sorry my bad, that beer needs cages and not ropes to tigh the Lion like a camel.

When did Somalis eat lions, the SNM finished the ugaad (like biicit and the sakaaro) but Lions, that is a tall order. :eek: That Zoo is not fit for animals

Hey Juxa I cannot decided if this is nice, or just plain sad (most of the time I think it is sad) but people sent me message asking if I was okay because they have not seen me post on SOL for two weeks. I need inan meeshan iskaka taago. A newbie sent me a massage saying "are you not going to welcome me to your site" :eek: and I had someone asking me to PM admin because he would listen to me :eek: I am so yapping at this madness, but I need to get gone. Even worse a real life friend who hardly calls called me three times, when I asked miyaad igu so walatey, they said they are a slient reader on SOL and that is how they keep upto date with me (if you are reading this *shakes fist*) hence why they are calling. :mad:

It makes my room look Somali and xafash, I've been a storage room long enough.

^^Don't they teach Somali in Qardho :rolleyes: When I woke up this morning I was cussing you; can you come pick up your stuff or take it back to dadki laga so qaadey.

Faheema did they bring you another Ciilin to marry?? Morning all

I guess then incontinence, periods, strength exercises for urethra's sphincter muscles after childbirth etc

One of the only few somali songs I like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErIy8qwo0dM

What is their specialty?

What happened to Troll thread, who are these gate crashers and who let them all in. :mad: This is more like the old somali men perve corner. shidhouse. Where are CL and Juxa?

^^^Don't feel so boxed in dear, I think somepeople have been rubbed up the wrong way last week and now they have allergies. Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Are you explaining militant Islam to Ibti? If Islam were explained in political terms, Ibti would be on the centre right and you would be on the far left. The militant Islam you speak of IS Ibti. Waali, you think anyone who prays 5times a day is militant So ya waxa ka deegseysanya! A&T I don't want this to turn into her Islam Vs Mine, so all I am saying is quit being an apologist.

I don't believe in tactical reason, here you are making concessions that are not yours to make! But as you were, wa bila cakku ya haween> opening doors you cannot close there!. I will leave you to it in any case, although I would always say Speak the truth and shame the devil.

A&T: "militant faction within Islam" is an oxymoron. Aliamos few weeks away from SOL, seems like I've missed a lot. :confused: Maxa Dahacey? what did Johnny do? BTW as for lack of criticism from the Muslim world (there is no such unit first) Secondly condemning unIslamic acts will be a really tall tasks and a loooooooooong. Muslims as individuals can and do condemn murder, rape, killing etc but I doubt there will ever be a statement each time a "Muslim" does another crime. I certainly don't expect people living in the west to apologies for crimes committed by the governments let alone western individuals. Is it not enough that Islam condemns such crimes and has done so for centuries. The quran explicitly condemns this practice, as Muslims out statement is the Quran.

^^No, but you can expect him not to rely on the Quran as evidence, or attempt to do his own tasfeer, as we know he has yet to study it. In any case You are claiming the high ground here, you want a debate, so cover your basic point of entry. The aim of the discussion is not to bang your heads together, I assume you want to try and benefit them, so you need to put in the effort, otherwise you are not doing your job as a daaci. I guess if the aim is to just argue for the sake of it, then it makes sense that neither of you do your reading and then we can just see who shouts the loudest.

It is snowing again!!! Heavy too. Hey Val and chubacka and Serenity.

Peter Taylor normally is a well balanced guy. Will remember to watch it inshallah and see what he brings.

^^Just because it has happened, does not make it a valid mode of discussion. If you cannot be bothered to read the book, then there is no reason why anyone should respond to what you posted, unless Hamza is going to appear and defend or counter argue, you cannot do it on his behalf because you have not read the book. since you don't want to read the book I can only assume you did not seriously want to engage them (those who do not agree with you) instead you just wanted a hit a run- something that I expect of Johnny.

Just like I do not feel responsible for everything a black person or a Somali person does, I do not feel responsible or feel the need to apologies for everything that someone with a Muslim name does. I think Islam could do a lot for societies that practices such horrendous, as Islam outlawed these barbaric practices in the Arabian peninsula when Islam arrived (They use to bury their daughters alive) Religion is never judged by those who follow it because we know that humans have twisted it and abused the masses using religion in history (all religions not just Islam). The Sikh and Hhindu communities in the UK have centers and help groups to tackle honor killings and family disputes that lead to such circumstances. I think the Turkish/ Kurdish and Pakistan communities need similar initiatives to stomp out these traditions and cultural horrors. P.s. I feel like I missed the SOL war of the year and everyone has picked the line not to cross.

North, you must read the book first, otherwise it is as pointless as Johnny quoting me something from the Quran which I know he does not understand nor can comment on, all he would be left with is quoting me what another said, which is never as stong as what and how you can say something. Don't be lazy, read the damn book, it is not that long. Cicero: when you manage to post without mocking Islam, Muslims and their book can people discuss with you anything, till then it is best people ignore you all together. It is a shame with all your so called education and libration, someone could not teach you basic manners and discussing an issue without emotional crying and chewing tour nails. Acudubililahmina shidan rajiim. P.s. they also forgot to tell you that we are called Muslims not Mohammadans.

SalamAlikum everyone