^^Not good enough, try again. I know you really do believe that most humans are ****** and follow crazy men. But try to be reasonable.

Cicero is still alive and kicking; Haadya comes from Allah. Telling him/her you are going to kill him makes him think you are sub-human and your religion is crazy. Cicero your example really is pants; I know you can do better. :rolleyes: Sayid if you was nicer to start with, you won't have to keep saying sorry all the time. plus I like messying with people

Aliamos; The video should come with a warning. I feel sick! :eek:

^^I have a father, and it is not SOL :mad: If it makes you feel better; yes Shitan was racist. Does that mean he only tries to tempt black people? So white people don’t have shitan whispers? I should’ve been white after all. Lool they should let you teach again- out of our hair. P.s. I am not Sikh :eek:

Originally posted by Sherban Shabeel: Well, maybe not around schools and kindergartens, but everywhere else sure!

^^No man, they think "prophets" were Schizophrenics individuasl or had so sort of psychological disorder, or they just wanted power. Aliamos, I think it is the opposite; Sayid really likes you, he wants to provoke you, so that he can have a reason to PM you (to say sorry) and have his opening. He is looking for a 2nd wife and has a habit of running into all nomads till he establish and writs them off his list because they are: 1) Atheist 2) Male 3) Married 3) over 50yrs

@ Sayid: Err Satan was not racist, it was pride. Had nothing to do with colour, just that Adam was made from mud (unless you are saying black people got the dark mud which white people got white beach sand) Che, they don't believe in prophets how can they accuse them of racism?

^^^ :confused: Che yaa? No, I don't know what athiest would say, I don't speak for them you know

^^^Yes, if I want pray 10times a day or wear a Burka it is my right to do so, give me the space and the freedom I need. Even if you don't believe that I should be praying so much or be in a mini dress. Cara: My first language is not English, it takes a while for people to get my point. I think maybe even online, the niqab is stopping me from expressing myself clearly

One of Adam son (the one who killed) was darker

Lool Cara I'm here. But Somehow this week I've been allocated to hold the front for the waados, the rest are on holiday somewhere. So between writing essays to them, I don't get much time to troll. But I'm here now, hayee?

^^You are a proud, ignorant man

^^Are you wondering if she is still scared for her future?

^^Johnny it is not a huffy statement, the conditions me and Lazy already agreed on, drawn from the translations she posted. And we already agreed that the garbasaar (providing it is it not see through and covers the hair (not starting from the shoulders) is also hijab. So why pick on one form of hijab. The Indian Sari does not count, the belly shows. You and Lazy can never be "us" because wa complete different end of a different stick. At least me and her are holding the same damn stick. P.s. Even if there was a direct command for the niqab in the quran on the first page and it was repeated five times, you argument will simple be, I don't believe in this book. So you are the weird opportunist busybody. This is a personal issues, at best it is a Muslim women issue. Why then do you feel you can give you 2cent or even try to say which type they can wear.

Ailamos; in this case if Sayid practiced Taqliid, he would be acting perfectly, but instead he is following his hawa and emotions. Somalis have a saying about the dacwo that left its footprints yet could not reach that of the hyena. Lost in the middle. I understand, I think something’s need Ijtihad, other things just need perfect taqliid, no need to re-invent the wheel if the conditions or circumstances are the same or similar. Sayid: assumption is the mother of all [insert word here] So take baby steps before you call such serious names. Hence why I mentioned your paranoia in page1

Juxa: Lord help the women who ever give Sayid a present, he will think the Thank you message is a marry me. Juxa, adiga you work with Somalis, you will never get a diamond ring even if you get them lots of money, even a thank you xaata. Malika, dhee are you going to tell me how we are related or what? I tried finding you on facebook, goormaad ii delet garaisey?

^^Yes, because of the 7 is not a "man who argues with atheist on the bus or forums" And in Islam fantasies count for nothing, it is your actions and intention. I feel like I've been made to sound like some kind of freak fundamentalist. I'm just a girl (with opinions), stop asking me questions and find a knowledgeable shike/ shikha.

^^The end of the joke was that her friend digged up the grave the next day, got cheque and cashed it Hey CL

^^Johnny you have no place in this discussion,dis-figuring women kullah, I mean seriously you would rather everyone (the good looking ones at least) walked around naked. The Islamic-ness of the Burka is that it fulfils the basic characteristics of a hijab, (if it had a whole in the backside revealing their as*s then no I won’t support it or call it a hijab.) Furthermore it is not banned in Islam, and in Islam everything is lawful unless it is declared unlawful. I'm not an open-minded person at all, I just don't like people telling others what to do. Don't get it twisted atheer. I am always with the Muslims right they be or wrong; If they are right I will support them, if they are wrong, I will support them by correcting them- hence I can never be open-minded.

Not so fast dear, I asked you: 1) Vocally object to a women who has chosen to cover her face for her own reasons: Maybe out of piety, maybe because she thinks her face is too pretty, maybe she finds it comforting or is shy. 2) OR support legislations by non-Muslim to ban or advocate for the oppression of this Muslimah who has made a different choice. What makes you (the said advocate) any better than the Taliban who tried to enforce the opposite. Explain to me how you are not the two side of the same coin please? The Bukra is a form of hijab that fulfils the conditions of a Hijab and covers additional areas (hands &face) which they don't have to; Now if she made that choice, regardless of whether it is pretty or comfortable or she looks like a robber (Arab or otherwise) What is your objection and why would you force them to take it off?? :confused: That has been my question all along, since last year I’ve been watching you and trying to figure out exactly what it was that your objection was based on; At one point I thought you was against all hijab, another time I thought you was fashionable and felt embarrassed by them, now I feel like you are just pis*sed off they going an extra mile that they don’t need to. Go back and read any thread on this topic I have ever commented on; I’ve always said, it is not required, however it is a form of hijab and for those who made their own choice to dress that way I will support them and we have no right to bully them. As for pious reasons, I don't like to comment on it because Allah knows their intentions, whether it is for their husband or Allah or friend, or maybe they feel it helps them spiritually. I have wore niqabs a few times, I don't think I could say it was for pious reasons, often it was because I was in a situation where 1000 Muslim men were coming out and they just stare at you or if you are doing a charity collection, you don't want to mess up their intentions and I'm shy, plus I don't want them to see my face. This is similar to What Aisha said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihrām (the sacred state one enters when going to hajj or ‘Umrah). When they came near, each of us would lower her Jilbāb from her head over her face, and when they passed by we would uncover (our faces).” [Narrated by Abū Dāwūd, 1833; Ahmad, 24067 Asian do this by using their hijab as part covering over their lower face. In any case, I like having that option. Btw, I have worn a niqab and a Burka previously and it was very comfortable, aside from the people who kept looking at me, I felt free and light, It was summer (English summer), maybe you should try to wear it. My atheist friend and I swapped clothing for a day so she can experience a day in the life of a Muslimah(she wore gloves, niqab and Burka) while another friend followed us about with a video recorder. Although it took her a while to get use to walking, and it was only for a day, her main complaint was that as a model she is use to people looking at her when she is out and about,but now people looked at her with suspicion and that made her want to laugh or scare them. P.s. you do not have a signature? :confused: P.s.s. I don't want to end the discussion (Aliamos & I came to a common ground) now I'm trying to do the same as you. So please put your ego of Lazy is right aside and answer the questions so I can at least understand why you feel the need to dictate to these women what to wear (like the men you hate on) Can't they just do what they want without you or a man or government telling them so? What of the man who forces a woman to wear the darn thing on a hot, humid day? Atleast the ban would allow her to breath normal. Can the folks on the other side of the aisle say the same thing? The man and you who wants to force them to take it off are the same to me, neither of you have any right to do so. Just let be will ya. P.s. Marx is right, but think of me as a hair dresser- she can't control where people go or who they show their hair to after she made the hair beautiful and sexy

Arraweelo was a fab Queen, although I do wonder how much of what we hear about her now is true. I think Somalia could do with an Arraweelo right about now. We should start a forerunner group: The rise of Arraweelo. There is division of roles in Somali culture, but Somali women despite not getting the same opportunities in education, marrying young and so on, haadan when you hear stories I can't help but marvel at their wit, intelligence and independency in thought and in household decision making.

^^Hello Jibreel, how is you and your family?

Ibti - when you are shouting at me - don't i deserve the kid gloves and the niceties that you are encouraging me to handle with atheist?? and for your information - i don't work with atheist. - however i don't mind working with hindus Sayid it piss*es me off when Muslims act so unreasonable, and you should know better because we have a perfect example in the prophet (PBUH). Look in the Sirah on how the prophet dealt with hypocrites like AbdAllah ibn Ubayy . Muslims did not follow them about, swearing and abusing them and the prophet forbade that anyone harms him and his group, even though Allah revealed to them that they were not believers and were plotting against them and undermining them. So I don’t feel the need to babysit , convince or abuse people who have followed a different path. On the same token, you and your actions are ambassador of Islam, so I will be harsh on you. P.s. Hindus and Atheist are the same from a Islamic point of view. Both have not believed in Allah. So naga daa sheekad. Aliamos I was thinking like him, till she stood up

Sayid Keligi Muslim ha nooqan. Religion is a private affair between inviduals and Allah. Maxaad ka rabta people? I'm looking to visit Spain, Itlay and France this year inshallah, but I don't like open racism. I'd rather they hide it well like the English.

My fav one is the office party http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbUKIkRieM&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=136C35B8803CC87B