Originally posted by Haneefah: Believers are supposed to give each other reminders, khayr. It's a product of faith. Reminders or Advice? Is there Adab in interrupting a muslim reading quean in the masjid to correct him for not having the right 'arabic recitation'. I seen this happen last week to a brother and guess what, he was making an attempt to read the quran while the others in the masjid were chit chatting. Or How about correcting someone's salat just after the Imam ends the salat. Is there only one fiqha in the deen? :rolleyes: Where was the kuushuc in the person's salat when they were thinking about their neighbour's salat??? People hate and leave the deen when Zealots look for negatives in their brothers/sisters and do not point out the positives.

If it makes anyone feel better, they can call me Abu Khayr or ina Khayr

^^^^ Great discussion of old.

Have you ever met the Pray Police? You know, the one brother or sister that comes across the masjid to say Salams to you and tells that you did something wrong in your salat? in your quran reading? You know the one brother or sister that prays besides you and right after the jamma salat is over, says to you "salams,I saw that you didn't do x and y in your salat and want to tell you that you should do v and w like I do. (What about their salat and there remembrance of their neighbors salat over the remebrance of Allah?) :rolleyes: The Prayer Police - Big Brother/Sister watching is you Have you seen them lately?

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I hope that you know how to swim with sharks!

The Disappearing Male Pt.1 85% abnormal sperm count in the young male :eek: Males now have 1/2 the sperm count their fathers had. :eek:

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: He said: "Obviously he'll influence the president to be pro-Israel. Why wouldn't he? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to be mopping floors at the White House. Thats is what is called a Gaffe. It might be the truth,however; in politics you never display all your cards at once. All that is being done is damage control because that was an overt statement from the Chief of Staff's Father. Bombs over Gazaaaa! :rolleyes:

Sayyid, Why is the concept of Unity sacred in Islam? Unity on what level? pyschological, geographical (my land is their land) etc.

Originally posted by Norf 1: It's spelt 'Sheffield' mate :cool: Is that the vid with Fathi the chef? Don't know but the Butcher in the video is a regular purchaser. I wonder how he cuts his meet. Are the Somalis in the UK getting shipments like these and are they supplying it themselves from overseas or getting it from the Yemenis?

You can't be too nice. Ambitious people get somewhere with desire, deterimination and a die-hard attitude. Niceness is only a commodity to get something better - POWER! Be as gentle as a Dove and as Cunning as a Fox

Sayyid Somali, What is your interpetation on this? Unity on what level?

QAT IN SHEFFIELD This is hilarious. Qaat gives them pictures of Saana (old man) The guy at the end says " we sit in the same spot for hours" when chewing. So guess what his solution is, lean on the other shoulder and switch postion while mainting the same chewing angle UK folks are sooo damn funny.

National interest is and will be the guiding principle of our future solutions. Spoken like a true card carrying, flag waving yank. So, what is the rate of return on your $500 investment in Bank Obama? a 10% increase in your residential taxes, income tax increase of 10%. Better yet, why don't you ask Oprah. At least her 1.5million got her a backstage pass with Obama on election night.

You want the animosity towards America to stay high, but the world really can't afford to, much as it might gall you. The world? Which world? Who's interests are being represented here? You lack perspective. Blind Optimism is a heroic fault. Alexander the Great thought he could conquer the world, but fell prey to it. Sean Penn thought he could stop the Iraq war by flying to Iraq but caught a bullet instead in the azzz The gambling addict too has Blind Optimism when they are at the slot machine, fresh off a loan from the Casino!

You are all dupped by this euphoria. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if the people of Congo are cheering him while at this current time they are getting slaughtered. :rolleyes: If you checked the popular vote, it was even. The yankees (that includes you card carrying faraax's and xalimoos that are expecting a pay-off from this win) were split down the line. Electoral votes were won by narrow margins in some states.... It has been the pattern for the last little while, to change political parties that have had the white house for 2 consecutive terms. On to the issue of the cabinet, Bama's chief of staff is a staunch pro-israelist zionist. For those saying that it will be similiar to Clinton's administration. Do you remember a damn thing about Clinton's administration???? - It was Clinton's Administration that made the Bosnian muslims nearly extinict (arms embargo anyone? :rolleyes: ) - It was the Clinton Administration that got you folks on FLIGHT 13 from your lands. - It was the Clinton Administration that cut off funds to the impoverished Americans. - It was the Clinton Administration that made thousands of Iraqis starve to death. A snake is still a snake no matter how many times it sheds its skins. Remember how the people of Pakistan were quick to forget what Bhutto did to them and were cheering her on last year. Now her hubby is in charge. Dramatic irony or Poetic Justice

I was watching the facade labelled "Doha debates" and basically, the debate was whether Obama was the better Canadate for Presidency. A larger muslim audience was extremely pro-Obama and no amount of proof that Obama couldn't careless about Muslims would decrease their support for him. As a Somali and/or Muslim, what postive Changes are you hoping from Obama? Do you anything about his foreign policy? i.e. His support for Israel? This applies to all the nomads because this Rock n Roll star is a worldwide phenomena now.

Originally posted by Deputy: What oodweyne would say to this: My dear lad you have it would seem by some peoples thinking gotten to the nous of the matter-moreso- Used my preeminent ESL english to detract from my worthy postings on such matters. I shall as usual ignore any pertinent issues you may have raised and shall instead dear lad invite you to a cup of cha and invite you to a moment of sequestered reflection so that you might see the many/ myriad issues with you attempt at a post. _____________________________________ who are the somalilanders.........no really who are they, please tell me. _______________________________________________ A&T you have been a member since February, although you always have something intreasting to add to any discussion trust me it will be pointless to debate on the style of certain members postings. Whats funny is, you mimicked his style to the T and he did the exact same thing on this thread.

ThePoint, Incase you missed my q to you, here it is: However, what I would like to ask is, what if they stoned a married rapist? Would that make a difference to you - Serenity and thePoint and Roobleh.

Is that why Sean Penn is coming out with the Pro-Gay movie (I think its due out in Nov.) in which the state of California made it legal to be homosexual and engage in a homosexual lifestyle.

Originally posted by hamza9163: That said, humans are bound to make mistakes, but as muslims, it's the intention of the person that counts. Bringing up cheap propaganda often cited by ant-muslim fanatics shows your kind of character. It instills doubts and fears in peoples minds. You are what you think and see.

Originally posted by Deputy: Khayr, brother come down here with the little people and realize that even if the islamists where to win the war outright for them to govern or for any part of their vision to be enacted a government suitable to the Somali people as they see fit will have to be devised. Otherwise they will also prove to be an interregenum in Somalian history. Truth be told saxib, I don't think Somalis or most modern day muslims want Shariah/Islamic government. Reason being is they are happy with their lives and things such as privacy, freedom, tribalism etc. are sacred to them. Also, when some muslims eschew for an "islamic government", often their image is of Utopia i.e. Economic prosperity (creation of jobs and wealth), healthcare, evening duugsi class etc. In anycase, I was critiquing the article and not you saxib. Fi Amanillah

Originally posted by roobleh: ^One of the reasons of their failure may have to do with the lack of Constitution and democracy. I believe that Islam and democracy can go hand-in-hand. We can learn a lot from the American Constitution, especially, the Bill of Rights. Even, the influence of Islam could be traced back to the Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776. One of the forefathers and the 3rd President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, read and had a copy of the Quran. Saxib, I thought that it was Halloween today and not April Fool's. You sound like an American Muslim equating American values with Islamic Values i.e. Democracy is Shura (NOT). The notion of Constitution is a new phenomena and is driven by the Idea of Democracy and Equality. People write the Constitution and put in it what they want. If the time is right and with enough VOTES, they can change it too. In anycase, please answer my earlier questions saxib so that I can adquately give a response to your "thread question".

Originally posted by ThePoint: ^He's where they all seem to be - nowhere to be found. Behold - The Immaculate Fornication. ThePoint, You know "stoning" of an adulterer is a very sever hudood and it has very stringent requirements i.e. 4 witnesses present, confession Not a wise political move on any movement to begin applying such hudood, so soon. However, what I would like to ask is, what if they stoned a married rapist? Would that make a difference to you - Serenity and thePoint and Roobleh. All I hear is whaling from you guys. :rolleyes:

encourage Somali religious scholars and intellectuals to devise a suitable form of government , which is able to regain the trust of Somali people, and interact with the rest of the world. And only, that type of government will be able to stop the fanatics that tend to destabilize the region in the name of Islam. I'm confused. You want to have religious scholars involved, yet at the same time extinguish any islamic insurgency. :con ....Oh, I get it, you want them PACIFIED and acceptable to the superpowers.