Xaaji Xunjuf;821020 wrote: Talks are between the Somaliland govt and the Somalia's TFG govt as the Minister of Galmudug said if Puntland is allowed well than we should be included two its that simple. If PL is part of the TFG than they will be represented by the TFG its really that simple. Galmudug doesn't border Somaliland, Puntland does. That's why they are part of the delegate. But what it shows truly, is that the secessionist region fears Puntland and it is welcomed. But it's great that the mighty administration of Baraxley voiced its opinion.

How do you know they won't agree, they haven't even begun. You ran to your colonial masters, saying you were a British colony thus they should intervene. And why do people from Somaliland brag that it will be held in London, if you are a free and independent country, why not hold it in your capital since it must be so peaceful? It's very embarrassing to be honest.

Puntland is part of the TFG and borders the self-proclaimed state of Somaliland. It's like the US asking Texas to participate in ongoing border disputes with Mexico. And quite frankly it's none of the secessionist region of Somaliland's business to talk about what the opposing party appoints. This shows that it is a frightened people and afraid of the mighty power called Puntland. I mean what else could it be? Logically speaking, why would they oppose? Hah.

It's a good question, why does the secessionist region which calls itself Somaliland feel that the international community should step in and mediate before the talks have even begun? Is this because they love their colonial masters?

Kenya wants to do it horizontally. (Reuters) - A row between Kenya and Somalia over their maritime border may deter multinational oil companies from exploring for oil and gas offshore east Africa, and a Somali official warned that the argument could escalate. The two coastal nations disagree over the location of their boundary line in the Indian Ocean. At stake are their legal claims to sell rights for exploration and collect revenue from any discovery. Kenya recently identified eight new offshore exploration blocks available for licensing, and all but one of them are located in the contested area. "The issue between Somalia and Kenya is not a dispute; it is a territorial argument that came after oil and gas companies became interested in the region," Abdullahi Haji, Somalia's minister of foreign affairs, told Reuters in Mogadishu. "If the argument continues unsolved, it will change into a dispute that may result at least in souring the deep relation between our two countries and (cause a) war at last," he said. East Africa has become a hot spot for oil and gas exploration, spurred by new finds in waters off countries including Uganda, Tanzania and Mozambique. In the Horn of Africa, Somalia's semi-autonomous Puntland and Somaliland regions have also licensed exploration blocks. Kenya announced its first oil discovery in March by British oil firm Tullow Plc, which was on land. The row between Kenya and Somalia threatens to upend some exploration rights that Kenya has granted to oil and gas companies, which have already started exploring in the area. French firm Total and Texas-based Anadarko and the only two companies so far holding licenses from Kenya to blocks in the disputed area. They have no immediate plans to drill there. Both companies declined to comment on the border issue. UN INTERVENTION? Martin Heya, Kenya's petroleum commissioner, said he was confident the United Nations, which could be requested to help delineate the border, would agree with his country's view, and he expected companies to continue their exploration activities. "Do you stop working just because the boundaries have not been determined? No," he told Reuters. Consultants involved in border demarcation said the two countries won't have a legitimate boundary until they sign a treaty that delimits the border, but that is unlikely to happen until Somalia has a stable government. Heya says the maritime border between the two countries should run horizontally east from the point at which the two countries touch on land. The practice in east Africa has been for boundaries to run along the line of latitude, Heya said. "For the time being, this is where we believe the border should be," he said, referring to the horizontal east-west maritime border. Somali officials say the onshore border continues into the ocean diagonally southeast and that a horizontal border would be unfair. If the Somalia-Kenya border was continuous from land into the ocean, making it lie diagonally from the northwest to the southeast, Kenya would be left with a small triangle in the Indian Ocean over which it could claim mineral rights. Kenya has had stable diplomatic relations with its war-torn neighbor, but the east African economic powerhouse sent troops into Somalia last October in pursuit of al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab rebels, accusing the militants of cross-border attacks on its territory. UNSTABLE SOMALIA Joshua Brien, a legal adviser with the Commonwealth Secretariat, who has consulted with Kenya on maritime border matters, said the two countries won't have a legitimate boundary until they write and sign a treaty. The absence of a stable government in Somalia could hinder this process, he said. Somalia's government has been battling an insurgency by al Qaeda-linked rebels for years and barely controls the capital, even with the help of an African peace-keeping force executing a U.N. mandate to prop up its Western-backed government. It is unlikely it would have the ability to wage a war on Kenya. Brien also said the two countries' border disagreement is not unique. Throughout the world there are unresolved maritime boundaries. "It is not uncommon for maritime boundary issues to become heated, especially where petroleum exploration and development is concerned," he said. "In the case of Somalia, the matter is exacerbated by the governance and offshore security situation in that country, both of which are well known." Kenya is pushing on with oil and gas exploration, but petroleum commissioner Heya acknowledged the border dispute could cause problems in the future. Heya said companies will be unable to drill in their respective blocks until the boundary is settled, because it will be unclear where to direct revenue from a resource discovery. "Where the revenue goes is not apparent," Heya said. (Additional reporting by Mohamed Ahmed in Mogadishu; Editing by James Macharia and Jane Baird)

Aah, look at you, trying to save face, it's failing, oh it's failing sxb.

LOOOOL@Feral Kids WTF!

Puntland has: “the best-equipped indigenous military force anywhere in Somalia.” - New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/11/world/africa/11somalia.html?pagewanted=all So please, step off kids.

The name Palestine was used before the Romans. I'm going to be kind and say you need to go back to school (though it doesn't look like you've ever been there in the first place).

I didn't even raise the point when I made a comment. You just mad I proved you wrong about this and the Palestine comment, that's what I do on this forum. Now exist this thread calmly.

Who tells you stuff?:confused: The phrase Palestine was used before year 0.

Puntland has the strongest fighting force in Somalia according to the New York Times. And why do I care anyway, Alpha is part of Somalia. Why call it Alpha though?

Beer-Gaal;820946 wrote: Mogadishu Version of PSA (Puntland Security Agency). Why Alpha group though , magac somali ah miyey waayeen ? It's a dumb name given that Russia already has an elite unit called that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Group

faarah22;820938 wrote: there was no palestine before, so how can it be wiped off the map? There was. If you go to the Houses of Parliament in the UK, you'll see a statue of Richard the Lionheart and on the placard it says Palestine. Yes, it did exist.

Maybe I shouldn't have used that analogy, but the SSC regions (which I meant) is staying within Somalia. Otherwise I don't care what they do, in fact I'd be the first one to welcome their secession. They've ruined their chances to look now, you are right about that.

I have 1 username. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/member.php/20758-Somalia

SpectaKooler;820909 wrote: SomaliLand is that chick that keeps coming up with excuses for why she doesn't wanna be with you. Each time you debunk one truth, another conveniently pops up out of nowhere. Let her go. Indeed, she should be let go, but she needs to leave the engagement ring.

The Sage;820904 wrote: It was only a few weeks ago that your beloved Farole was begging to be included in the talks...essentially trying to weasel his way in like a third wheel. He said that there could be no talks without Puntland's consultation. I bet if I go back to the thread I see a lot of secessionists laughing and being proven wrong as usual. Oops, here it is. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/63071-Farole-did-it-again!/page2?highlight=faroole

Boy: You know you're fine right? Girl: I know, I know.

Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy Dan Meridor told Al Jazeera that Iran never vowed to "wipe Israel off the map," as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly claimed. Speaking to the Arab network, Meridor, who also serves as deputy PM, said Iran's leaders "all come basically ideologically, religiously with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive." However, he added, "They didn't say 'we'll wipe it out,' but (rather) 'it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed'. They repeatedly said 'Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist'." In 2005 Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying that Israel should be "wiped off the map," but it was later revealed that the translation of his remarks, published by media outlets around the world, was incorrect. Ahmadinejad was actually quoting the leader of the 1979 Islamic revolution: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." Asked by Al Jazeera about the possibility of a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities and the outbreak of war in the Middle East, Meridor said Israel does not want a war, but added that Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions." Meanwhile, the United States on Monday dismissed Iran's call for a lifting of sanctions, saying that the Islamic republic must first address concerns over its nuclear program in "concrete" ways. US State Department spokesman Mark Toner called the recent round of talks between Iran and the major world powers in Istanbul a "positive first step." The talks came in the wake of a 15-month halt in negotiations over Iran's nuclear development. However, Toner clarified the talks were the first step in the right direction and there is more work to be done. "No one's talking about any sanctions being reversed or canceled at all," he said. In response to Netanyahu's claim that Iran now has five additional weeks to continue enrichment without any limitation, Toner said "We've got the strongest sanctions in history against Iran right now, and they're going to get stronger as we move into the summer." "Iran is caving under the paralyzing sanctions and has further incentive to come to the negotiation table with practical proposals," he added. Toner said that the United States, echoing a statement by EU foreign policy Chief Catherine Ashton, was ready to look at incentives in return for progress from Iran. "We want to see Iran come up with some concrete proposals moving forward and that if that were to happen, we would look at ways -- Cathy Ashton's statement said as much -- to reciprocate," Toner said. Earlier Monday, Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said that the entire dispute could be quickly resolved if the West shows goodwill by easing sanctions. Salehi further hinted that Iran could make concessions on its higher-grade uranium enrichment, a key concern of Western powers. Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said during a meeting with National Security Advisor Yaakov Amidror that increasing pressure on Iran following the initial round of nuclear talks with the world powers would be "dangerous."

WTF You cool though, you cool.

Somalicentric;820852 wrote: :D stop it. Ok sorry, I once saw a gay, he fled once people found out he was the gay.

Somalicentric;820847 wrote: Question me?! you don't give me much of a choice now do you?! lol Umm, nevertheless I'm not with you, they are not my cup of tea... maybe in a different life, or when i feel like "experimenting" :cool: Lmao. Why would you say "experiment", are you trying to tell you swing the other way? :eek:

I hate people and I hate Facebook, but I love women If you aren't there with me, I have to question you, dude.

Hahaha, rudy invites only hot chicks , that's why.