casestudy 2 far away from any 'civilisation', an indigenous tribe is discovered in the amazon rainforest. they've absolutely no contact with the outside 'world'. are they punishable? becos in islam it says all must 'submit' to the will of Allah? what if the message of islam doesnt reach them?

N.O.R.F;851135 wrote: What is morality? a set of values, norms and standards. not incumbent or merely derived from religion. there is a universality to it. casestudy 1 - atuk is a young man. the year is 450BC. he lives in a remote island off the coast of haguta empire. hatuga empire is going through an inserrection of sorts lol. a new man who allegedly claims to be god is causing a revoution. the empire condems this man and sends him into exile in aluta islands. he visits atuk and his family. he spreads his message to their village. the man recruits many members of the village and very soon establishes an effective administration and jails all the tribal elders and demi-gods. basically this follows Things fall Apart plot. atuk is condemned by the new man as a apostate. atuk is a moral person according to his values, norms and standards of behaviour. assuming this man is the ultimate truth and his message is the truth, how will atuk be judged and peceived in the 'afterlife' which is one of the main tenets of this new faith?

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no gaal can make any predictions based on scientific guesstimations.

i woke up at 13:30pm. it was a long night, lets just say! manshallah that your jimce was brilliant. it is said a muslim who doesnt go to friday jummmah for 3 or 4 times isnt a muslim.

in case there were any doubts over this new partnership of strength. ----------- AYOUB;850250 wrote: Alpha, l'm humbled by your acceptance. Thank you for your thought-provoking threads my friend. Thanks for the kind words I hope you do stay as member of SOL. for i am also indeed humbled by your request. of course, this will mean that we must now plan how we hope to synergise our combined strength and established a period of pax somaliland.

Narniah;850454 wrote: Love is... certainly not you!

manshalah brother arafat!

^ what are you negotiating babes?

So, when i logged into SOL this morning, i noticed that my notifications had reached 3, the other two notifications are useless and i havent bothered to respond. i was thinking it was the usual 'inaadeero' self-opinionated bile that arafat sends me all the time. me and arafat are now well acquainted and just the other day our friendship reached new heights now that the facebook formalities have finally been signed between our two respective accounts. although, its a friendship, Arafat gains more from given his one profile picture, which i doubt is him and too many likes, which doesn't shed any light on him. yet, when i clicked on this new and mysterious notification, it was non-other than a frienship request from AYOUB. AYOUB is not someone i've paid particular attentions to during my years on SOL but like the apprentice show's evetual winner, he's always had that the nonchalance and non-partisan nature (with the exception of SL affairs, which we are in agreement) that in the end catapultes a common man into stardom and ever-lasting success. i'm humbled by AYOUB's kind offer to be friends and I quickly reached the firm decision that such an action warranted. AYOUB, this is a great day for potential cordial ties, ties built on productive relations, team work and loyalty. we shall overcome any obstacles to our joint strategic endeavours and will lay traps and destroy all rabble-rouses whose aim is to undermine our collective spirits. from this day forth, all your enemies are my enemies, your friends my friends and i pledge absolute loyalty and dedication to this new partnership of strength. hail AYOUB the Great and God Bless Somaliland. Al.

how can proceed forward when UNICEF owes the rights to somaliland's education curriculum?

another classic from the empress of roots!

lol@vanilla homie, i don't think i'd particularly want to contact che if he posted his number. there is something very unsettling about this demeanor.

these bunch of homegrown militant atheists are ruining many a threads with their anti-god stances. this is unacceptable.

^ baal nacaskan eega! waar nagada ciyaarta dee lol. research can be engendered based on the framework you're working under.

Narniah;849925 wrote: We can only do this to those we love, no stranger would obviously do this. However annoying they are, I will always love them and love doesn't always mean saying yes..It's ok to say no sometimes. (Reassuring myself:p...Now I just need to put it all into action. such is the corruption of indulging in western type consumerism that it now appears to have permeated all seemingly 'good' somali households. i remember in our family, we shared everything that could possibly be shared maybe with the exception of clothes.

If y'all could provide further feeback to my questions that would be greatly appreciated. don't worry this is only for my own research purposes and i promise i'm not sharing it with any third party with a vested interest lol. ElPunto;847907 wrote: LOL @ Alpha starting this. Not gonna answer until you tell what sorta of Muslim you are though I have a pretty good guess lol@el punto, the sorta that is between a rock and a hard place lol. only kidding mate. a salafi. yes, i'm a salafi. that is the closest methodology that is imbued with my deep piety and social compassion-'ism' .

lol@NG, have you no xishood for goodness sakes. of course, all somali men. i read her book and felt that she externalised her somaliness noo, you know the 'i'm a somali from a distance, but i have no issues grotesquely caricaturing and exaggerating the somali experiences for western audiences'. i think k'naan can also be accused of this too. these fools have sold out and should be excommunicated and asked to leave noo. we need more authenticity and locally sourced and produced talent. what is 'real' and what is 'fiction' baal, these are questions i grapple with on a daily basis - not becos i care as my own values are shifting but rather becos it an ordained duty i have to fulfill, in my capacity, as a conscious cultural critic and an ethical hedonist. i wonder if i'll be given a seat on the panel and be allowed to express my opinion?

i shall be there. i hope to meet some of the writers and organisers and in particular nadifa mohamed. i want to put nadifa mohamed to the litmus test and figure out whether all somali women with some semblance of logic think themselves superior to their somali men lol.

recently performed this on karaoke. lol.

The International Criminal Court handed down a 14-year jail term to Congolese warlord Thomas Lubanga in its first-ever sentence, after Lubanga's conviction for using child soldiers in a brutal conflict in the central African country. "Taking into account all the factors... the court sentences Mr Lubanga to 14 years in prison," presiding Judge Adrian Fulford told The Hague-based court, set up in 2002, on Tuesday. Lubanga, who has been detained in The Hague since March 2006, will however effectively only spend eight years in prison. Fulford said the court had taken into account the time Lubanga has already spent behind bars. Lubanga, 51, was convicted in March of war crimes, specifically for using child soldiers in his rebel army in the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2002-03. Criticised for its slow progress, Lubanga's sentence marks the ICC's first since it started work a decade ago. Alpha Sesay, the legal officer for International Justice at the Open Society Justice Initiative, a foundation that promotes human rights and accountability for international crimes spoke to Al Jazeera. "These children were told to kill and rape. That was the education [Lubanga] gave these children " - Former ICC chief prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo He said that the judge considered a range of issues, but they also considered mitigating circumstances, as Lubanga had cooperated with the proceedings. "So the prosecution did not get what they asked for," said Sesay. "There was dissenting opinion though with one of the judges saying that the sentence disregards the arms so far during the conflict in the Ituri region." The Hague-based court's former chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo, who has since handed over this position to Gambia's Fatou Bensouda, earlier this month called for a 30-year sentence against Lubanga, saying his crimes were "of the most serious concern for the international community". "These children were told to kill and rape. That was the education [Lubanga] gave these children," said Moreno-Ocampo. During the trial, prosecutors told how young girls served as sex-slaves, while boys were trained to fight. Significant ruling Lubanga was found guilty of abducting children as young as 11 and forcing them to fight and commit atrocities in the DRC's northeastern gold-rich Ituri region. NGOs site some 60,000 people killed in the war since 1999. Al Jazeera's Peter Greste, reporting from Goma in the DRC said that Lubanga was a Hema and was seen by the Hema as a protector of their community, but it was "not necessarily a war over ethnicity, this was a conflict over the vast gold reserves in the Ituri region, from which a lot of people suffered." "Certainly people particularly the Ituri region recognise that this is the very first time that we have ever seen anybody held to account because of the crimes committed in Eastern Congo." At the time of Lubanga's conviction in March, Moreno-Ocampo said he would be ready to accept a lesser sentence of 20 years should Lubanga "sincerely apologise" and actively engage in helping "to prevent further crimes". He pleaded not guilty and has maintained his innocence, adding at a June 13 hearing to discuss his sentence that the court's decision to find him guilty of war crimes hit him "like a bullet in the face". "I am being presented as a warlord... but I never accepted or tolerated such enlistments taking place". Lubanga, who has been detained in The Hague since 2006 is the founder of the Union of Congolese Patriots and commander of its military wing - the Patriotic Forces for the Liberation of Congo. So far Lubanga's team has not indicated whether they would appeal his conviction, sentencing or both. Other ICC cases The ICC - the world's only independent, permanent tribunal to try genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity - has issued four arrest warrants for crimes in the DRC since opening its doors in 2003. Two militia leaders, Germain Katanga, 34, and Mathieu Ngudjolo Chui, 41, who fought against Lubanga, are currently facing trial on similar charges. Former UPC leader Bosco Ntaganda, a Lubanga ally, is also wanted by the DRC for his role as the leader of a group of mutineers known as the M23 movement. The ex-general and 13 of his deputies, still to be arrested and face the Hague-based court on war crimes charges, were dismissed from the DRC army before they went on to violently claim a mineral town along the border with Uganda as recently as Friday. Ntaganda and the M23 fighters are still caught in an ongoing struggle with the government. The ICC is investigating seven cases, all based in Africa. Six countries - Austria, Belgium, Britain, Finland, Mali and Serbia - have indicated their willingness to accept prisoners sentenced by the ICC.

no she's one of the many habros tho lol.

i might have to marry the maid too, although she's not too pleasing to the eyes. she lost the house keys today and i'm livid, words cant express how angry i am.

is nadifa engaged as i heard recently?

jb, sxb, hows the book tour coming along? when is the grand opening of this years festivals? is nadifa mohamed gonna be there. i want to meet her.