Nonsense. The guys with you, were they not surprised at your reaction? Such a greeting is perfectly acceptable in Somali surrounding especially coffee shops. 'Waad saalamantahay' or 'waa lagu salaamay' or 'salaan sare' are all variations of greetings. You need to stop translating things back into English and understand the context. In this case he greeted but his alter ego told you about it (as a 3rd party). Disclaimer I'm no language expert.

One and all means everyone. Any nationality (ok maybe not the Chinese). You on the other hand don't take too kindly to someone greeting you

I saw the video clip. The lady spoke well. Good luck to them.

Islaan ayaa Burco lagu xidhay for not paying an $80 VAT bill. The way things are being done is haphazard to say the least. The whole government seems disjointed. No clear strategy for any ministry (planning maybe).

^ Ngonge, what I heard would be considered rude by one and all. What you heard though, is only considred rude by you

I doubt this has been thought through. BOTH the prices of locally produced and the imported goods will increase. VAT is currently a hot topic in the SL business community. Businesses have been issued baseless VAT invoices resulting in high level meetings and disagreements. The minister hasn't come out of it smellig like roses.

NGONGE;770972 wrote: He was being rude. In what world does a stranger walk into a place and say to people "you have been greated"? Wax fahan. In a Somali world saxib. Such a greeting is normal among Somalis. Wax fahan.

Waxeeyu waa kaftan and the guy you had a go at wasn't being rude

NGONGE;770938 wrote: ^^ What he/she/it said. "You all have been greated" begs the question "by whom?", saaxib. The person that greated us is there and I can already see him but since he chose not to do it himself by saying "waan idin wada salaamay", the assumption (and a valid one at that) is that he's speaking on behalf of others or, which is the proper reason, he's using the royal 'we'. Arrinto marka micniheedo waa "ii wada kaca oo dhulkan iga horyeeya fiiqa ama nadiifiya, boqor baan ahay". To ask "adiga iyo?" puts him in his place by forcing him to meekily explain his words (I also use the same method with qolada jecel the phrase "waxa la yedhi", usually they end up confessing "aniga idhi"). Admittedly, Somali isn't my strong point and I could (though i doubt it) be wrong. Wax fahan. Isagaa idin salaamay but chose to tell you as a 3rd party. There was no need to pull him up on it. Meeshu maaha Shaariqa. Siday carabtu isu salaamaan ilow! Somali optician u tag

'Waa la idin salaamy' doesn't mean more than one person baa idin salaamay adna waxaad waydiisay adiga iyo? Stick with shaay rather than shaah Carabyahow.

^Mar mar you should turn off the Arab in you and realise Somali baad dheh fadhidaa. Haven't you been greeted with 'wa alaykum asalaam'? 'Waa la idin salaamay' baad ku jowaabtay 'idiga iyo? War bax

^Now thats just rude (sorry) Subtlety isn't a Somali trait.

Cheh, They would like to think they do (and there is no problem with that). It doesn’t negate their observations of rude/obnoxious behaviour by other Somalis. Abu Salman, I don’t think much can be done. You would hope those who know better would use whatever influence they have to stress the importance of manners. There are so many Somali TV stations with many religious programmes (although in a haphazard manner). I’m sure an email or telephone call to them could set the ball rolling.

We have great unspoilt beaches/nature (in SL/Somalia - which ever way you're leaning). Feels good when you're there and you know IT'S ALL YOURS. YOUR land. YOURS to develop. YOURS to invest in.

BE good people and SMILE.

22 April 1993 Stephen Lawrence is stabbed to death in an unprovoked attack by a gang of white youths as he waits at a bus stop in Eltham, south-east London, with his friend Duwayne Brooks. 26 April 1993 Four prime suspects are put under surveillance. 4 May 1993 The Lawrence family complains that police are not doing enough to catch Stephen's killers. 7 May 1993 The homes of brothers Neil and Jamie Acourt and David Norris and Gary Dobson are searched. The Acourt brothers and Dobson are arrested, then released on bail. Norris surrenders to police three days later. 13 May 1993 Identification parades are done for Neil Acourt, Dobson and Norris. Neil Acourt is identified by Brooks as one of the gang responsible. Acourt is charged with the murder of Lawrence and the attempted murder of Stacey Benefield a month earlier. Norris is charged with the attempted murder of Benefield. 23 June 1993 Luke Knight is charged with Lawrence's murder and remanded in custody. 29 July 1993 Committal proceedings are scheduled for Neil Acourt and Knight but the Crown Prosecution Service formally discontinues the prosecution after a meeting with the senior investigating officer. August 1993 A review is set up by Scotland Yard. 22 December 1993 The Southwark coroner, Sir Montague Levine, halts an inquest into Lawrence's death after the family's barrister, Michael Mansfield QC, says there is "dramatic" new evidence. 16 April 1994 The CPS says the new evidence is insufficient to support murder charges. September 1994 The Lawrence family begins a private prosecution against the prime suspects. 18 April 1996 The murder trial begins against Neil Acourt, Knight and Dobson at the Old Bailey. 25 April 1996 The case collapses after Mr Justice Curtis rules that identification evidence from Brooks is inadmissible. All three are acquitted. 13 February 1997 The inquest into Lawrence's death ends with a verdict from the jury that he was "unlawfully killed by five white youths". Lawrence's parents make a formal complaint against the Metropolitan police. March 1997 Kent police launch an inquiry on behalf of the Police Complaints Authority. 31 July 1997 A judicial inquiry into the case is announced by the home secretary, Jack Straw. 15 December 1997 The Police Complaints Authority report on the original police investigation into Lawrence's murder identifies "significant weaknesses, omissions and lost opportunities". The report finds no evidence to support the allegation of racist conduct by any Metropolitan police officer involved in the investigation. 16 March 1998 The public inquiry under Lord Macpherson begins. 17 June 1998 The Metropolitan police makes a formal apology to the Lawrence family. 24 February 1999 A report into the case and its wider implications by Macpherson concludes that the police investigation was "marred by a combination of professional incompetence, institutional racism and a failure of leadership by senior officers". The charge of institutional racism in particular prompts a series of changes within the Metropolitan police. March 1999 -2003 The deputy assistant commissioner John Grieve begins a third major investigation, Operation Athena Tower. 5 May 2004 The CPS announces there is insufficient evidence to prosecute anyone for Lawrence's murder. April 2005 The government scraps the double jeopardy legal principle, which prevented suspects being tried twice for the same crime. July 2006 A BBC documentary alleges police corruption in the Lawrence case. It is suggested that Clifford Norris, the gangland father of one of the prime suspects, might have paid the former detective sergeant John Davidson to be kept one step ahead of the investigation. 9 August 2006 The killers of Damilola Taylor are convicted after a forensic review of the evidence finds spots of blood. The acting deputy commissioner Cressida Dick decides to mount a full cold case forensic review of exhibits in the Lawrence case. 14 October 2007 The Independent Police Complaints Commission finds no evidence of police corruption and no evidence of dishonest links between Davidson and Clifford Norris. 8 November 2007 Police confirm they are investigating new scientific evidence in the case. 7 February 2008 Doreen Lawrence opens a £10m architecture centre in honour of her son. Two weeks later vandals smash its windows in a suspected racist attack. 22 April 2008 A memorial service marks the 15th anniversary of Lawrence's death. Scientists tell police they have found a spot of blood on the collar of Dobson's jacket. 7 September 2010 Dobson and Norris are arrested. 8 September 2010 Dobson and Norris are charged with the murder. 18 May 2011 The court of appeal quashes Dobson's acquittal, paving the way for the trial to go ahead. 14 November 2011 Dobson and Norris face trial. 3 January 2011 Old Bailey jury finds Dobson and Norris guilty of murder of Stephen Lawrence.

Many of you were either too young or have never heard of this case but the impact this had on the UK, policing and investigation techniques has been huge. I remember the news and the shock that this could happen. The McPherson report labelling the London Met Police as 'institutionally racist' has cleaned up policing (it's not perfect by a long stretch). http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/03/stephen-lawrence-verdict-guilty-murder I hope the rest of them are brought to trial again.

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Maxaa dhacay?

Just can't resist can you? What you mentioned there isn't a big deal but for your fish & chip ego

^I would include your cyber persona to the list of rude Somalis. Sidaada kale you're a fish and chips

NGONGE;769889 wrote: So even though it's illegal in Germany there still remains a market where one can make 100,000 euros from one trip? 1.7 tons! It is not the same becuase there is no ban in Holland & the UK (though the number of addicts isn't that much different to those in Germany, unless the man was eating it all himself). Thats a small market if 1.7 tonnes of qaad gets you 100k Euros. The cost of each bundle will be high cos it's ILLEGAL dee I doubt German Somalis have the same family/community issues effecting UK Somalis (in relation to qaad) BECAUSE OF the ban. Wax fahan.

^are you sure about that? Perhaps the wrong place to be thinking about politics and one-upmanship. ps do you know many groups carry their respective flags at Hajj?

^Boqol kun oo uroo ayuu caydhsanaayey ps it is the same story as in Holland and UK.

^Not only are many rude they're also inconsiderate. Talking loudly on a bus or in a restaurant or in the mosque. The environment one grows up in plays a large part in what is acceptable behaviour. I still think it can be addressed through the media but it needs to be well coordinated.