SB A forced marriage without the consent of the woman is illegal in Islam the same as a wedding without the blessing of the parents/guardians. As per the sunnah So what say you good SB? Do you agree?

Forced marriage law 'not needed' The Home Office has decided a specific law to ban forced marriages in the UK is not needed. Ministers had asked groups and individuals if there should be a law criminalising the act of forcing someone into marriage. Most thought the disadvantages of a new law would outweigh the advantages, and possibly drive the practice of forced marriages underground. The Home Office will put forward three recommendations to stop the practice. These included better training for those who work in this field and "engaging more with communities". 'No justification' It also called for an increase in the work done with statutory agencies in sharing best practice and implementing guidelines. The third recommendation was to ensure that existing legislation was fully implemented, including making better use of civil remedies and the family courts. Home Office minister Baroness Scotland said: "Forced marriage is an abuse of human rights and a form of domestic violence which cannot be justified on religious or cultural grounds. "This consultation has been very useful in stimulating debate and generating recommendations from those with expertise in the field. "In the future, we will continue to provide information and assistance both to potential victims and to concerned professionals who are confronted by this abuse." At present, anyone found guilty of forcing someone into marriage can be prosecuted for kidnap, false imprisonment or rape. About 300 forced marriages are reported to the authorities every year - often involving people from Britain's South Asian community. In most cases young women are pressured into marrying, but at least 15% involve coercion of men. 'Stereotyping' The Southall Black Sisters, a group which campaigns against domestic violence, says it believes that young people will not report their parents for fear of criminalising them. Pragna Patel, chair of the group, told Radio 4 that existing laws were sufficient. "We don't see the need for criminalisation of forced marriage, which is yet another way of stereotyping and criminalising entire communities at a time when there is heightened racism in this country." The government has made it clear that it is not attacking the idea of arranged marriages - a popular practice in South Asian communities - when both bride and groom give their consent. Ministers have said that they recognise the problem is not exclusively South Asian. Baroness Scotland said people with links to the Middle East, the Balkans and Africa were also affected. bbc.co.uk

Cameron attacks Radio 1's hip-hop BBC Radio 1 has been accused of encouraging knife and gun crime by Conservative leader David Cameron. Mr Cameron singled out the station's Saturday night schedules which feature DJ Tim Westwood's hip-hop show. Radio 1 strongly denied Mr Cameron's accusation, saying it took its responsibilities "very seriously" and followed strict producer guidelines. It said hip-hop was a "vibrant" genre which sometimes reflected the "harsher realities of people's lives". The Conservative leader made his comments on Tuesday evening at a British Society of Magazine Editors event. "I would say to Radio 1, do you realise that some of the stuff you play on Saturday nights encourages people to carry guns and knives?", said Mr Cameron. 'Courage' He was responding to a question from June Walton, the editor of Good Housekeeping, about how the Conservatives would tackle the growing problem of knife crime. Mr Cameron said his remarks were an example of him having "the courage to speak up when you see something that is wrong" despite the fact that "you will get a lot of bricks thrown at you". Mr Cameron's comments about knife crime follow a string of high profile cases in recent weeks. A spokesman for BBC Radio 1 said: "Radio 1 strongly refutes any suggestion that the station condones or encourages knife or gun culture. "The station takes its responsibilities very seriously and has strict producer guidelines that govern all of the output. "Hip-hop is a huge international genre with a vibrant UK scene and that music reflects the sometimes harsher realities of people's lives and cultures." 'Apalling' lyrics Only five months ago the Tory leader appeared on Radio 1, in what was widely seen as a bid to demonstrate his youth credentials. Interviewed by presenters Colin Murray and Edith Bowman, he said he was a fan of The Smiths, Radiohead and Pulp, and selected Cheryl Tweedy when asked which of the Girls Aloud group he thought most attractive. The Tory leader is not the first politician to link song lyrics to violent crime. In 2003, then home secretary David Blunkett dubbed so-called gangster rap lyrics "appalling" and vowed to speak to music producers and community leaders in a bid to curb them. And former culture minister Kim Howells attacked some rap artists for creating a culture "where killing is almost a fashion accessory". In July 1999, clergyman's son Tim Westwood was himself injured in a drive-by shooting in south London. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5055724.stm

Its not exactly difficult to listen in on the khutba, with all the hi-tech James Bond gizmos at their disposal they could have had a nice day in the park listening in, very strange developments though :confused:

^^harsh luck, i have taken my months leave to be back in the UK for most of the tourny these arabs are abit slow when it comes to the beautiful game

Round about this time last year a crazed man ran inside shouting he had a bomb as we listened to the khutba. It was panic stations as people thought he was telling the truth. Anyway he was apprehended and handed to security who initially thought he was a muslim. There were angry scenes outside afterwards. Could they have been MI5 these guys dressing as women?

Mogadishu battle - turning point for peace? While some Somalis - and certainly the US - are deeply dismayed at the sight of the Islamic militia seizing control of Mogadishu, others argue that it may prove it to be a turning point in the peace process. Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Ghedi says he would rather deal with the Union of Islamic Courts than the warlords who have controlled Somali's capital for the past 15 years. "It was an excellent step forward... because they [warlords] were not ready for a government, they were not ready for peace," he told Radio France Internationale. Mr Ghedi's transitional government was set up after two years of sometimes tortuous peace talks in neighbouring Kenya between all of Somalia's different clans and armed groups. Great care was taken to ensure that all sides were represented. As a result, the Mogadishu warlords were all named as ministers even though many did not really believe in the government. 'Opportunity' Optimists say that if the Islamic courts do consolidate their grip on the capital, negotiations between just two groups may prove simpler, leading to the country's first effective national authority for 15 years. Islamist leader Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and Mr Ghedi, based in Baidoa, 250km (155 miles) north-west of the capital, have both said they are ready for dialogue. Editor of the BBC Somali service Yusuf Garaad Omar says the fact that a single entity controls the capital is a huge opportunity to bring peace to Somalia. "The Islamic courts and the transitional government need each other," he says. "One is the legal government, the other is a popular force in control of the capital." But he warns that it is only a step forward on a long road towards the end of war. He says the Islamic courts are likely to become whatever others want them to be. If treated with respect - as partners - they could turn into the group which delivers the capital to the government and so end years of conflict. But if they are viewed as a hotbed of Islamic extremism, that too, could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Personal history The moderate leader of the Islamic Courts Union, Sharif Shaikh Ahmed, has said that his militia does not want to impose a Taliban-style Islamic state on Somalia. But some Islamic courts officials have said they would only support a government based on Islam. Furthermore, President Abdullahi Yusuf fought a successful campaign against a previous Somali Islamist armed group, al-Itihaad al-Islamiya, when he was in charge of the northern region of Puntland. Al-Itihaad al-Islamiya leader Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys is a key figure in the Islamic courts. Mr Aweys has said he has nothing against Mr Yusuf personally but this history could make negotiations difficult. President Yusuf condemned the US for allegedly backing the warlords against the Islamic courts. But he did not say it was morally wrong - just that the money should be channelled through his government instead. Mr Ahmed has said he wants an end to the fighting, which has killed at least 350 in the past few weeks. But there are reports that his militias are advancing on Jowhar, where some warlords have fled. More conflict? Fresh from what seems to be a comprehensive victory in Mogadishu, the Islamic courts might seek to achieve what no other group has managed since 1991 - to conquer the whole country. President Yusuf was last year trying to build up a new national army and may command the loyalty of gunmen from Puntland. However, US-based Somali analyst Omar Jamal says the Islamic court could defeat government forces, if they so wished. "If the Islamic leaders want, they could kick the government out of Baidoa very easily - not only on military grounds, but also on political grounds, the government is so weak, the Islamic extremists are far ahead in gaining the hearts and minds of the people," he told the AP news agency. "This war will not stop in Mogadishu." Another possibility, just as bleak, would be that the US is so concerned that the Islamic courts were harbouring al-Qaeda elements that they hugely increased their support for whichever group promised to fight them. This would only prolong the instability that most Somalis are desperate to put behind them. bbc

Somali Islamic state 'ruled out' The Union of Islamic Courts does not want to impose a Taleban-style Islamic state in Somalia, says their leader. Sharif Shaikh Ahmed told the BBC they had no political aims beyond enabling the people to decide their own future. His militiamen have been seeking to shore up support after taking over the Somali capital from warlords on Monday. President Bush has expressed concern over the recent unrest and has warned the US will ensure Somalia does not become a safe haven for terrorists. "Obviously when there's instability anywhere in the world we're concerned. There is instability in Somalia," Mr Bush said on Tuesday. "First concern of course would be to make sure that Somalia does not become an al-Qaeda safe haven, doesn't become a place from which terrorists plot and plan," he added. The US was accused of backing the warlords defeated by the Islamists but has neither confirmed nor denied the persistent reports. Sharia law concerns Sharif Sheikh Ahmed told the BBC Arabic service that the Islamic Courts were not a movement. Map of Mogadishu "They are a kind of popular revolution by the Somali people after 16 years of anarchy and killing, plunder and kidnapping," he said. "This body is not a political one. Rather we want to give power back to the Somali people so it can make its own decisions and decide its own destiny." The violence in Mogadishu has been the most serious for a decade with some 330 people killed and about 1,500 injured in the past month. It began when warlords who had divided Mogadishu into fiefdoms united to form the Anti-Terrorism Alliance to tackle the Islamic courts, who they accused of sheltering foreign al-Qaeda militants. The Islamic courts deny this. They were originally set up in Mogadishu as a grassroots movement by businessmen to establish some law and order in a city without any judicial system. 'New era' The Islamic militia warns it is now within 20km (12 miles) of Jowhar, the town where the defeated warlords fled. However, clan elders have warned the Islamists not to attack Jowhar. A senior Somali MP told the BBC's Network Africa programme that the takeover of Mogadishu could be a step towards ending years of anarchy. Former Information Minister Mohamud Jama said the Islamic courts might improve the security situation in the capital and make negotiations with the interim government easier. On Monday, Prime Minister Ali Mohammed Gedi, whose government wants talks, sacked four Mogadishu-based warlords who had been serving as ministers, as they were losing the battle for the capital. bbc

^^i will not make a prediction as they usually go terribly wrong.

A politically savy UIC is a very encouraging sight. To draft such a letter in order to pre-empt the mis-understanding of the situation by foreign powers is very well thought and executed. May there be eternal peace IA, ameen

But who will be taking it home?

Rooney '300% sure' ahead of scan England striker Wayne Rooney has told coach Sven-Goran Eriksson he is 300% certain he will be fit for the World Cup finals in Germany. The 20-year-old will leave England's base near Baden-Baden and return to Manchester for the crucial scan on his fractured metatarsal. Eriksson said: "I'm confident he will take part in the World Cup and he is 300% confident he will play. "I have been saying for one month that I'm sure he will take part." Rooney will leave Germany at 0900 BST on a private jet and fly back to Manchester with England doctor Leif Sward. The scan is scheduled to take place at the Whalley Range private hospital at about 1200 BST. United doctor Tony Gill will discuss the results with Sward and specialists at the hospital. If they cannot come to an agreement over his fitness then an independent consultant could be drafted in to make the decision. Eriksson will then be informed by phone how the recovery is progressing and whether Rooney can fly back to Germany and re-join the squad to continue his rehabilitation. If not, his place will be taken by Jermain Defoe of Tottenham, but it is possible that an announcement may not be made until early on Thursday. The deadline for a decision on whether to replace Rooney in the squad is Friday at 1400 BST, 24 hours before England's opening game against Paraguay. Eriksson has remained confident Rooney would make it since he suffered the injury in April, and has been boosted by the striker stepping up his training in the last few days. "I think he looks very good - but let the surgeons and the specialists have their say," said Eriksson. "I look forward to the point when we don't discuss scans and Rooney's foot any more. "Very soon we will know what is going to happen about him but I have always said I think he will be ready." The Manchester United player spent Tuesday's training session in Buhlertal, near the squad's base, with one of the England physios going through some sprinting skills and some limited ball work.

Well people, its finally here, the much awaited tournament that pitch the greatest teaams in the world against each other. Time for the talk to stop and for the walking to begin. We all have our favourites, we all have our prediction of surpsises and we have the wish to see the African teams do well. Things will be unfolding during the coming month. Here is the essential information: Schedule So grab your comfortable armchairs, the take-away leaflet on top of the fridge, the TV guide to catch all the action, the remote (very important for those of us married), send the kids to summer camp (in-laws), get your excuses ready for going missing in the middle of the day at work, your pocket change to purchase the tabloids, get the shopping done for a whole month instead of the usual weekly shopping, the items needed for watching in the local cafe , service the car (dont want to break down do you?) and so on,,,, Enjoy,,

Well my Arabic has seen much improvement (still a long way to go) so thats an encouragement i suppose. Other aims which i have slept on for many moons include understanding the Quran fully, travel (not always possible), a sustainable farm back home, Hajj (soon IA), buy a house (not sure where yet)

Did you even read my posts? Not really, i usually know what to expect then proceed to 'skim' through it. Of course I can, I'm SB. Man of stats and facts. Ibn Waraq (spelling!). Regardless of your view of him, agree with him or not, you gotta admit the man knows his stuff. How does he know his stuff SB?

Sheh some good points indeed. I shall respond in due time. For the record i did not mean 20 somthings to be islaamo.

Never personally met a Somali non muslim but i hear they do exist. SB, let me get this right, you are prepared to accept an apostate's view on Islam but you are not willing to accept the well grounded/researched knowledge of Islamic Scholars/Students? Your argument was something along the lines of "i dont believe everything i hear" but in this case you are prepared to accept 'everything you hear'. Is it because it is anti-Islam by any chance? (Ibn Warraq's view)

I dont know, i'm a little sceptical about this report. Does a high population of a minority group(s) make an area 'deprived' as opposed to an area with a high concentration of whites? If you live in London your house is probably worth over 200K, but you are probably still in a 'deprived' area. The study, carried out by researchers from the universities of Derby, Warwick, Birmingham and Oxford, found that the UK's 1.8 million Muslims were more likely than other religious minorities to be unemployed with 50 percent of those aged over 25 jobless. Again this is not what can be described as 'descrimination' as many of our (Somali/Asian) 'islamo' do not work. Yes things can be better but the level of unemployment will change if this is considered. There is an increasing level of descrimination towards muslims yes but this report is either half complete or a straight 'dig' at us.

^^So long as you dont do it before i finsh reading saxib. That may take time due to a busy schedule :rolleyes:

So these guys atteneded the same mosque and took part in the same activities organised by the mosque. That is enough to arrest them? Give me a break Canada. Mr. Bukhari said Mr. Jamal never openly embraced violence or talked about Al Qaeda, but was "very vocal and I believe could incite these young kids for jihad." Not violent, never spoke of terrorism but 'could' still be a threat. What a load cr*p based on falsified information. What happened to the freedoms and rights of the Canadian people? If they are muslims then its ok i suppose?

School books bring hopes for harmony SCHOOL children in Oldham will learn about Islam under an educational programme devised by the Muslim Council of Britain. Their 'Books for Schools' project is being introduced into the borough by the council. The initiative will provide 45 primary schools with a number of educational materials including books, cds, dvds, posters, worksheets and a collection of objects that are commonly used by Muslim children across the world. The aim to create a better understanding of Islam. It will raise concepts that Muslim leaders in the UK often claim are misunderstood like jihad which is often portrayed as the principle underpinning suicide attacks but which the majority of Muslims see as a peaceful struggle for faith in Islam. Nick Hudson, the Council's assistant director of school improvement, believes the pack will strengthen youngsters understanding of different faiths and cultures. He said: “The ‘Books for Schools’ project is designed to supply teachers with educational materials that enable them to provide informed lessons and promote a positive image of Islam. “Oldham’s communities are incredibly diverse and by giving the children of Oldham a better understanding of different faiths and cultures at an early age, we can break down barriers and move forward in our efforts to encourage a cohesive community throughout the borough.†Iqbal Sacranie, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, added: “The ‘Books for Schools’ is a practical demonstration of the Muslim Council of Britain’s aim to work for the common good of all British people. “Supporting an accurate and authentic teaching of Islam within schools will, we hope, in time result in greater mutual understanding, respect and tolerance between all of Britain’s diverse communities.†hfgfggdfdf

Muslims most deprived in the UK: report Regional-UK, Politics, 5/16/2006 Britain's 1.8-million Muslim population suffers from the worst deprivation in the UK, according to a new government-sponsored study. Muslims were found to be more likely than other religious minorities to be unemployed and live in poor housing in the most deprived parts of England. Half of Muslims aged over 25 are jobless and one in three live in the worst deprived areas, said the study carried out by researchers from the universities of Derby, Warwick, Birmingham and Oxford. The community is also particularly vulnerable to long-term illness, poor levels of education and housing conditions. "Taking the Muslim population as a whole, they face some of the most acute conditions of multiple deprivation," said the report, commissioned to review the prospects of faith communities in England. The academics were asked to review existing evidence, including information from the 2001 national census on the Hindu, Sikh and Muslim communities by the Office of Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott. It found that the three faith communities were likely to remain concentrated in the same areas where they were geographically concentrated across England. The "dispersal" of the groups is likely to be limited by the desire of families to stay close together and remain near their places of worship, the research said. Between the 1960s and the 2000s, the regional distribution of the communities had remained largely stable. It included one in three Muslims in England living in the 10 percent ratio of most deprived areas, but where white Christians formed the majority. A government spokeswoman has reportedly said that the study will be used to encourage equal opportunities for members of all religious communities. The Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) Monday castigated the findings. "Despite the recent EU initiative to make religious discrimination in employment illegal, there is still no support-structure in place to address the needs of victims of such discrimination," the IHRC said. Its chairman Massoud Shadjareh said that it was 'incredible' that such a situation exists in 21st century Britain, whereby it is perfectly legal to discriminate against certain religious communities and not others. "Despite the Muslim community continuously raising this issue with the government, nothing has been done and as the report shows, Muslims continue to face discrimination in every section of society," he said. The study, carried out by researchers from the universities of Derby, Warwick, Birmingham and Oxford, found that the UK's 1.8 million Muslims were more likely than other religious minorities to be unemployed with 50 percent of those aged over 25 jobless. It also confirmed that Muslims were also most likely to live in poor housing in the most deprived parts of England and were particularly vulnerable to long-term illness and poor levels of education. The Muslim Council of Britain said the research showed the poverty and other deep-seated problems that have contributed to the marginalization and disaffection felt among many young Muslims. "We hope that this report serves to highlight the need to develop policies that are able reach into these communities and fulfill their needs," MCB Secretary General Sir Iqbal Sacranie said. The IHRC said that it deals with many victims who have consequently been left to suffer in silence. It called for reformed laws to outlaw religious discrimination in all sectors and service provisions. http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/060516/2006051609.html

Detainee OO: 'The Cruellest Case in a Catalogue of Cruelty' (There is at present a Contempt of Court Order by SIAC prohibiting the publication of the name. Instead he has been given the initials “OO†by SIAC) The decision by the then Home Secretary last August to lock people up and deport them to countries which actively practiced torture was a shocking one. All of the men arrested on August 11th last year had already been accepted by the Home Office as being so at risk in their respective countries of origin that they could not be deported; i.e. they were acknowledged as being in grave danger. The Home Office’s sudden decision was that they could be deported, and that all the UK had to do to avoid being in breach of its binding obligations under the Refugee Convention was to get the country of origin to sign an agreement that they would not torture those particular individuals. Thus the United Kingdom broke ranks with the International Human Rights Community who view such memoranda as giving the green light to those countries that continue to practice torture as the norm in their society. Furthermore, such memoranda are universally acknowledged as “not to be worth the paper that they are written onâ€. However the most shocking and the most baffling decision to deport an acknowledged refugee came on 26th January 2006, when a wheelchair-bound stroke victim, a respected and law abiding imam, (who had never been questioned by the police in this country where he had lived since 1991 entirely lawfully with his family (all British citizens), was suddenly arrested. This arrest came as the cruellest shock of all to the informed community however accustomed that community had become to injustice and cruelty. In the most simple of humanitarian terms, even the police who arrived at Detainee OO’s house to arrest him on the orders of the Home Secretary were shocked; they had not been warned to expect a man unable to walk, confined to a wheelchair, paralysed down one side, suffering from diabetes and possible kidney failure. His general practitioner and the doctor who had treated his strokes immediately signalled their extreme concern; an application for bail was initiated the day after his arrest; but SIAC in return gave the Home Office the latitude of extended time to respond to the urgent medical reports filed within 24 hours on behalf of Detainee OO. Meanwhile the Home Office served its “evidence†as to why Detainee OO was a risk to national security and why he should not be granted bail. Their objections revealed nothing concrete with which Detainee OO could even grapple. It was simply stated “he is assessed to be a member of an Islamist extremist group which has been linked to extremist activity in the UK and overseas†and it was suggested that there was a significant risk that he, an immobilised invalid could abscond even if allowed home under conditions which amounted to complete house arrest. The Home Office used SIAC’s secret hearing procedure to make good its case. No one knows what is said there. SIAC refused Detainee OO bail despite compelling medical evidence. He had to be taken almost immediately from prison to hospital with bleeding to the brain. A second bail application was immediately initiated. It was again refused. Even Detainee OO’s own attempts to monitor his food within Belmarsh prison (in order to intake the few foods he knew that his system could absorb, he being a trained medic himself) met with the suggestion that his condition was his fault because he was “not cooperating†with Belmarsh. He was refused bail a second time. On Thursday night he was rushed again from Belmarsh to hospital, suffering again from bleeding from his brain. This time, his condition was even graver; he was transferred overnight to a specialist neurosurgical unit where drainage could take place; he for a while showed no reflexes at all; he remains unconscious. His family have struggled to see him. Every conceivable difficulty has stood between them and their vigil with a man unlikely now to survive more than days. There is no prospect whatsoever that this man could be deported. To subject him and his family to any continuing pretence that this is possible is merely a device that impacts totally upon their rights (and his) to privacy, to respect for their religion and their family life and their right to freedom from the infliction of cruel and inhuman suffering, mental and physical. This is the cruellest case in a catalogue of cruelty. We should be ashamed. Birnberg Peirce 1st June 2006 SOURCE: Muslim Prisoner Support Group

Rageh Omaar, who went from boy immigrant to ‘Scud stud’, is angry with pundits and politicians who claim to understand Britain’s Muslims but don’t know what they are talking about Sunday 18th June: 4-6pm: Celebrating Sanctuary'. Refugee Week event at South Bank, organised by the Refugee Council. Organiser: Orlando Arnold and Maeve Sherlock, Chief Executive, The Refugee Council, 240-250 Ferndale Road, London SW9 8BB. Tel (direct) 020 7346 6709 Monday 19th June: 2pm: Event with Bristol Libraries at Bristol Central Library, College Green, Bristol. Mumawar Hussain - 0117 9037 244. Tuesday 20th June: 7pm: Evening event at Stratford Circus, Theatre Square, in assoc with Newham bookshop, 745-747 Barking Road, E13 9ER. Vivien Archer - 0208 552 9993. AF to attend. Saturday 24th June: 12.15pm: Camden Libraries event at Chalk Farm Library. Bob Gryspeerdt Camden Libraries, London Borough of Camden. Tel. 020 7974 6509. Fax 020 7974 6532 Sunday 25th June: Brighton Refugee Week event. Tuesday 27th June: Event at West Bromwich Town Hall. In assoc with West Bromwich Central library and local Muslim organisations. Paul Voyce - 0121 556 0351. Wednesday 28th June: 7pm: The Road to Kandahar event at the ICA. The ideal of Umma. Event with Jason Burke, Azzam Tamimi, Director of the Islamic Centre of Islamic Thought in London and Ziauddin Sardar. Organiser: James Harkin, Director of Talks, The ICA, The Mall, London SW1Y 5AH Email: jamesh@ica.org.uk . Tel: 02077661424 Bookselling by ICA bookshop. Russell on 02077660438/52 Thursday 29th June: Event at the Museum of Film and TV, Bradford. In association with Bradford Libraries. Paula Truman - 01274 433915. Sunday 2nd July: 10am: Train from Paddington 12.30pm: Lunch with Somali leaders in Cardiff. 3pm: Event at National Museum of Cardiff in conjunction with National Festival of Muslim Cultures and Beyond the Border Lit Fest. David Ambrose, 20 Ewenny Rd, Wick, Vale of Glamorgan, WALES, CF71 7QA. 44 (0) 1656 89 02 89 Monday 3rd July: 6pm: Event at Grand Opening of Richmond library, Little Green, Richmond, TW9 1QL. Praveen Manghani, Acting Assistant Head of Libraries & Information Services, 1st Floor, Regal House, London Road, Twickenham, TW1 3QB. 020 8831 6100 ------------------------------------------------ I shall certainly try and attend one of the events,,,,IA

lol@rocko Viking, Ghana are playing some good stuff! Stars of the WC? Appiah - Ghana (will he finally realise his huge potential) Kewell - LFC lad Gerrard - LFC lad Fabregas??