Pioneers in every sense of the word!

^^LoL, ninka ma ka qaleesid?

Originally posted by Northerner: Thousands dead Fleeing refugees killed Shortage of food and water No medical supplies Outbreaks of Cholera and TB Refugees turned away Uncertainty Hopelessness Dispair Hunger Strife Lost Unjust rulers

Aha, now we really know 'why' he visited. To assess a case for human rights abuses. Not the PR exercise the intelectually challenged TFG wanted LoL.

"Clearly there are major problems with the way these attacks were carried out, clearly major abuses went on," said Mr Holmes. Hence their wish for new leadership in the other thread.

Mrs D&D Northern I am told that Just For Men is excellent. Do you think it is? Never had the need for it. If i did i would do an NGONGE

I remember seeing something on the Listening Post on Al Jazeera. There is a website who specialise in how to reply and play along to their requests. They would make them feel as though they are serious about giving up their details but ask them for more info. This is where it gets interesting. Web cam videos of Nigerians dancing and doing silly things were shown. One of them went to three different locations to meet someone he emailed only to get an email stating how sorry the respondent was for not turning up but asked him meet him elsewhere the next day lol. Sadly I cant remember the website. By I would suggest you reply with an odd request then take it from there. Keep us informed though

Originally posted by Sophist: I stand by what I said; Soomalinimo YES Qabiileysi No!! Northener: Maandhoow it seems you have been conversing with your adeeradaa of late; what a tosh they have fed you bro!. Be careful yaa ibn Akhii of their poisinious miasma!. LOL Likewise. Your regurgitation of the ‘official party line’ in your previous post did not go unnoticed ya Sophist. How convenient the shout for Somalinimo is today just like your silence over the past few months NOTE: Somalinimo should be practiced before it is preached in order to be taken seriously. Silaanyo has spoken out and Hadraawi is an active advocate for peace and unity both at the grand old ages of 70+. Seems as though my adeerayaal are practicing more Somalinimo than yours

^^LoL Just For Men

LoL Time for the xino on a regular basis

Lime green? Is she Irish NG?

^^I just dont agree with a country not running on Sheria. It will take time for things to evolve and maybe lessons can be learned from other non-Muslim countries but a full distance no Islamic law etc is not right. Take where I am for example. There is a lady we know who lost her dear husband (Allah yarxamu). They had a joint account but cant have the money purely because of the bank's greed. The man was Egyptian and she is British. Now if they or one of them was a national then there would be no problems. Her two sons are at Uni in UK. In the UK she would have got her money regardless of her nationality etc. This is what i mean by Muslims not fully following Islam. Picking and choosing. This is only a small example but when this sort of principle of picking and choosing is adopted within law and politics then the seeds of corruption and discontent begin to crack the country.

I havnt listened to the link yet. Will do when at home.

Peacenow It is every man for himself. And how can you have a community, when it is ruled by puppets and people who dont work for the national interest of their country. Somalia should emulate Singapore and forget about muslim world, islamic culture and arab . I was about to agree with you but for the bit in bold. Somalia left Islam and thats the very reason it is where it is today and not because of it.

As you were.

^^The conditions for a reconcialiation conference are not ripe. There needs to be trust before anything else. A reconcialiation meeting with warlords taking positions will only extend the status quo with nothing in the form of a functioning well respresented govnt materialising.

Now this is a funny thread lol

^^another turn around?

lol All i said was that 'parts' of the SSC regions are disputed. If i'm wrong come up with something to categorically say the whole of the SSC regions are disputed. SL is not disputed. No one would even care about it if it wasnt for the disputed 'parts' of regions. Talk of changing postitions,,,,,,

^^your doing quite well for a lazy Sunday i tell ya. My anti TFG stand stems from them bringing gaalo to kill dadkooda when peace was so easy (the best opportunity) to attain. I would speak against anyone who does that. Which also means speaking against their supporters. I did not and still do not consider my pro SL stand as being contrary to the aformentioned. Niether does a more holistic approach to the Somali political arena. Sorry but still at work,,,,,

I bet Ronaldhino cant do that!

I would love to reply but i'm at work and strapped for time. JB, have you provided any proof for your stance yet? I mean, at least I can provide you with something for you to think about. What have provided? Nada!

Originally posted by Allamagan: quote:Originally posted by Caano Geel: The hypocrisy in some peoples attempts at a put down is astounding. How do attack some one of the TFG support when you yourself advertise and champion a clan based nation.. Exactly! It is like I-see-others-but-not-myself kinda attitude! I need a mirror, can you provide one or are you just going to state it and run like the rest? Caano Geel, Well I’m not here to justify why there is SL, an SL admin and all those mucky questions as that’s a forgone conclusion (why and how we are all aware of). Now, for an entity to ‘preserve’ itself it must be threatened in the first place. I just don’t call the first peace for 16 years a ‘threat’ hence my objections to their self preserving methods. Somali politics is dirty and its all about self interest but one is free to judge on the ways that self interest is achieved with a degree of comparability to other more peaceful entities. If others consider that hypocritical while equating it with the same entity that is doing the dirty then thats their prerogative. But I would hazard it’s a flawed view. For the gallery I objected to the recent clashes in Dhahar between SL and PL.

I support one over the other. If the other was not involved in killing their own people and worked for peace then my support would be given. Question is, can one talk peace and support the TFG?

They obviously accept through belief whereas the others refuse to believe mainly due to their lives being curtailed somewhat. Oh imagine the inconvenience of it all.