Shame on you for supporting/excusing/being neutral to this. Shame,,,,, Thousands flee Mogadishu as fighting claims 59 (AFP) 11 November 2007 MOGADISHU - The toll from some of the worst fighting in Somalia’s war-wracked capital climbed to 59 on Saturday, as thousands fled the city fearing more clashes between Ethiopian forces and rebels, witnesses said. The continuing violence came as the UN secretary general’s special representative to Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, held talks with Somali president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed in Nairobi over the crisis. Sixteen bodies, including one of a Ethiopian soldier, were recovered on Saturday in and around Mogadishu’s Black Sea district, where rival sides have pounded each other with artillery fire since Thursday, witnesses said. According to figures compiled by AFP, the latest fighting has claimed 59 lives. “It was a very gruesome scene. They indiscriminately shot innocent civilians who were fleeing the fighting,” said local elder Ali Muse Mohamed, referring to the Ethiopian soldiers. Residents recovered bullet-riven bodies, ripped limps and shattered skulls on the blood-streaked streets and in bombed-out houses. They said women and children were also targeted by the Ethiopian troops battling Islamist rebels. “They shot any moving creature around the neighbourhood ... They also killed children,” lamented Hassan Sugule, another elder. “The Ethiopians are killing even the women let alone the men, so we have no option of staying. We are looking for safety,” said Ali Mohamed Barqad, adding that his neighbourhood was deserted. A tense calm prevailed in the battered city Saturday, but rival sides dug into their positions girding up for fresh combat. Meanwhile, thousands of residents fled Mogadishu, many on foot and others aboard trucks and on donkey, heading for the calmer outskirts already choked by hundreds of thousands who left their homes earlier, witnesses said. The talks between Ould-Abdallah and Yusuf came a day after the UN envoy met with Ali Mahdi Mohammed, who chairs a Somali government-backed reconciliation panel. The outcome of both sets of discussions remained unclear, although they centred on stability and the appointment of a prime minister to replace Ali Mohamed Gedi, who resigned last month. The Ethiopian army came to the rescue of the feeble Somali government last year to help it oust an Islamist militia that briefly controlled large parts of the country and sought to impose Islamic law. The Islamic Courts Union (ICU) was defeated earlier this year, but its remnants and allied militants have since waged a guerrilla war aiming to destroy all pro-government targets. Two weeks of clashes in Mogadishu had already displaced at least 90,000 people, according to the United Nations, worsening the humanitarian crisis that has blighted the nation for 16 years. On Saturday, panic reigned supreme in the city. “We are unable to flee to far areas because we do not have enough money,” said Nur Adan Mohamed, loading stuff onto a cart. “Some of my family members are still trapped in Suqaholaha (neighbourhood),” said Muhubo Shilis, a mother of five who only managed to escape with three of her children. “We ask Allah to have mercy on us because nobody cares about our predicament,” she added. Intense fighting erupted Thursday, killing several people, and frenzied civilians dragged the body of an Ethiopian soldier on the streets. An attempt by Ethiopian troops to recover the body worsened clashes that continued into Friday, leaving a trail of fatalities and destruction of property. The Ethiopian army crackdown in Mogadishu has blown the lid off decades of complex ethnic, social and political hatred between the two nations which have fought two wars in recent years. The New York-based Human Rights Watch meanwhile accused both sides of sweeping violations. The world “should condemn these attacks and hold combatants accountable for violations of humanitarian law, including mutilating captured combatants and executing detainees,” said Peter Takirambudde, the group’s director for Africa. In his quarterly report on Somalia, released Thursday, UN chief Ban Ki-moon said deploying UN troops was not a “realistic and viable option” and instead suggested sending a “coalition of the willing”. AFP

Well done reer London. I would have ecpected Xubeer/Paragon to be on that loud speaker

Originally posted by chubacka: OMG Khalid Yasin lives in Sheffield?! :eek: And? Sheffield had the highest proportion of reverts in the UK at the time and probably still does.

Originally posted by NGONGE: North, State schools (in the Arab world and the West) are usually of a lower standard than private/public schools (lets confuse the north Americans a little ) . Yes, there is an element of pride and showing off involved but, for most parents, that's just a lesser reason for sending their children to private schools. When I went to school in the UAE (the early part of my school years at least) the government used to pay us, feed us and cloth us (arr sheikh Zayid o duceya). Going to school was free and parents had to pay no fees. But for the past fifteen years or so, state school has ceased to be free for non-citizens. Parents were required to pay a token sum (or so it was called) for each child they enrol at a state school (this was for parents that worked in the public sector, those that worked in the private sector were not even afforded that choice). Since the aim of sending a child to school is to have him/her educated in the best way possible and at the hands of dedicated teachers, many parents decided to send their children to private schools. I am assuming that it is a very competitive market now and that these schools try to attract new pupils by showing past results of previous students and the awards that the school won. On the whole, private schools produce a better type of student (Serenity and Layzie aside). At any rate, if you find this puzzling wait until you meet some of the Arabs that boast about having their sons studying at Eton, Harrow or Winchester! It wouldnt be so bad if kids went to these private schools from about 11/12 (high school) but they start from nursery/KG1. There are quite a few kids who cant speak Arabic which has lead to calls for some sort of reforms. Now these schools should be teaching Islamic studies and Arabic by law but most simply dont. When caught its a meager fine. It is a very competitive market now with astronomical fees and increases in recent years. The thing is, with more and more expats coming over and the ever increasing emphasis on western education its bound to only get bigger but not necessarily better. There are many unqualified 'teachers' in these schools. Jumeira Jane who worked in a call centre in the UK but is now here with her husband is teaching in aGEMS school. :rolleyes: They have only recently formed a body to regulate the private schools. There are some very good schools run by Muslims with more emphasis on learning Islam (in both English and/or Arabic) and with qualified teachers in addition to the IGCSE and IA Level programmes. There have been calls to revamp education in the gulf states but its a tad late dont ya think? Who builds all the roads? Schools? the Burjs etc? Who project manages them? etc etc There is a long way to go. Most of time will be to simply change the attitude of I can sit around and let others work for me. I should be complaining I know they are paying my wages. All I remeber about state school in KSA in the mid 80s was being affraid of that cane/whip/shoe if I got my Quran wrong. A good boy was I Serenity: North, I'm glad to learn the little one is learning Arabic already Who told you that? She was doing well with her Somali until she went to blighty and returned speaking English :rolleyes: . Those fish and chips kids have brain washed her. I was doing well teaching her Somali :mad:

Shaykh Khalid Yasin (one known as 'Abu Muhammad' [1], 'Abu Muhammad Khalid Yasin' [2]) and 'Abu Muhammad, Khalid Yasin' [3], born in the 1950's [4] in Brooklyn, New York, is a former Christian [5] whom converted to Islam and is now one of the worlds most respected and leading Islamic lectures throughout the world. He has given thousands of lectures, many of which are available on DVD. Khalid Yasin now lives and operates his Da'wah organisation in Sheffield, England. Yasin founded, directs and runs the 'Islamic Broadcasting Corporation Ltd (IBC)', 'The Purpose of Life Centre' on Shirecliffe Lane, Sheffield. The organisation was formerly known as the Islamic Teaching Institute (ITI) [6] and the Islamic Information Network Ltd [7] [8], where it is believed in the past ten years, the ITI has converted more than 5000 persons to Islam [9] and an additional 1700 since the September 11 attacks. [10] Other organisations he has operated or worked with are http://purposetv.tv and http://purposeoflife.tv Khalid Yasin constantly tours the world delivering lectures with the goal of educating people about Islam, conducting Da'wah Training Courses, and providing new Muslims with a specially designed 'Islamic Training Program'.[citation needed] He is frequently honored [11] as a guest speaker [12] & VIP [13] around the world. wiki

^^The solution to bring about peace is to rid Somalia of those who are doing/excusing these killings! ICU are trying to do that (although not in perfect manner). You keep on equating them with the likes of the TFG and Ethios but with as much anti ICU write-ups anyone could muster, they have never done what the TFG has so far excused or what the Ethios have done. Time will come insha Allah when the Ethios head back across the border like the Yahuuds did in Lubnaan last year.

Ngonge, state schools here are not that bad surely. It has more to do with wanting kids to be educated in English which will benefit them later on than a lck of education in state schools. Why are they so quick to tell you 'he goes to private school'? If only they would be taught a bit of common sense,,,,,,

Originally posted by Eccentric Nomad: Hey wats wrong with London?? Haters..i know you all secretly wanna come here.. So true

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Documentary to be shown on the next Witness Special Friday 25 February 2005 Noor Al Houda Islamic College Gets $1M Over Contaminated Land by Kylie Williams Source: News.com.au http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12357932-1702,00.html An Islamic college has been awarded more than $1 million after the school site it leased at a Sydney airport was found to be contaminated. Noor Al Houda Islamic College successfully sued Bankstown Airport Limited (BAL) in the NSW Supreme Court over land it leased at the airport from 1994. Justice Clifton Hoeben today awarded the school $1,094,430 in damages, finding the Federal Airports Corp (FAC) and subsequently the BAL owed the school a duty of care to disclose a report that the land was contaminated with sewage waste. The land was originally leased from the FAC but was transferred to the BAL when it took control of the airport in 1998. The school sued on the grounds that BAL was negligent and in breach of contract because it failed to inform them of 1994 Envirosciences Pty Ltd report which said the land was contaminated with sewage waste. It relocated to an alternative site at Strathfield in January 2003 because of the report. "The term which the plaintiffs sought to imply into the 1994 lease was that the leased premises were fit for the conduct of a school," Justice Hoeben said in his judgment. "They said that the premises were not fit for a school due to soil contamination and that as a result they were entitled to sue for damages for breach of contract." However, the judge said the $5.1 million the school was originally seeking in damages was "unrealistic" because the cost of moving was only an estimate. "Those costs were estimates since at the date of the report the College had not yet moved," he said. School principal Silma Ihram said she was thankful for the support of her community who helped the college pay for its legal bills. "It's because of the community we represent that they've all hung together," he said. "They've put their homes on the line. They've put their finances on the line." Year 12 student Haneefa Buckley said she was relieved with the result but the fight had pulled the school community together. "We've been through so much hardship," she said. "The school's almost a family. We're so happy we've overcome this." http://muslimvillage.net/story.php?id=2048

Documentary to be shown on the next Witness Special Friday 25 February 2005 Noor Al Houda Islamic College Gets $1M Over Contaminated Land by Kylie Williams Source: News.com.au http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12357932-1702,00.html An Islamic college has been awarded more than $1 million after the school site it leased at a Sydney airport was found to be contaminated. Noor Al Houda Islamic College successfully sued Bankstown Airport Limited (BAL) in the NSW Supreme Court over land it leased at the airport from 1994. Justice Clifton Hoeben today awarded the school $1,094,430 in damages, finding the Federal Airports Corp (FAC) and subsequently the BAL owed the school a duty of care to disclose a report that the land was contaminated with sewage waste. The land was originally leased from the FAC but was transferred to the BAL when it took control of the airport in 1998. The school sued on the grounds that BAL was negligent and in breach of contract because it failed to inform them of 1994 Envirosciences Pty Ltd report which said the land was contaminated with sewage waste. It relocated to an alternative site at Strathfield in January 2003 because of the report. "The term which the plaintiffs sought to imply into the 1994 lease was that the leased premises were fit for the conduct of a school," Justice Hoeben said in his judgment. "They said that the premises were not fit for a school due to soil contamination and that as a result they were entitled to sue for damages for breach of contract." However, the judge said the $5.1 million the school was originally seeking in damages was "unrealistic" because the cost of moving was only an estimate. "Those costs were estimates since at the date of the report the College had not yet moved," he said. School principal Silma Ihram said she was thankful for the support of her community who helped the college pay for its legal bills. "It's because of the community we represent that they've all hung together," he said. "They've put their homes on the line. They've put their finances on the line." Year 12 student Haneefa Buckley said she was relieved with the result but the fight had pulled the school community together. "We've been through so much hardship," she said. "The school's almost a family. We're so happy we've overcome this." http://muslimvillage.net/story.php?id=2048

Why do Muslims in the west wish to send their kids to Islamic schools and Muslims in the Islamic world wish to send their kids to western run schools? There are many aspects of life in the ME one notices. ps no trolling please,,,,

^^Your not as rugged a Burco on your first visit. Give two or three visits.

^^I see you got yourself together. Good for you. Hope your security level is slightly more stable.

The Burco-Berbera road is in good condition. The Hargaisa to Berbera road is alot better than before.

Hmmm, interesting. Connect in Rabat towards London? Air Arabia to set up hub in Morocco By Ivan Gale, Staff Reporter Published: November 07, 2007, 23:32 Dubai: Air Arabia will establish a second hub in the Moroccan capital of Rabat that will allow it to carry passengers to Europe, North Africa and the Middle East, the company said yesterday. The Sharjah-based budget airline announced on Wednesday that it has signed a management agreement with Regional Air Lines, a private carrier in Morocco. Under the agreement, Air Arabia will assume management control of the carrier and apply its business model to its management. In addition, Air Arabia and Bahrain-based Ithmaar Bank will invest capital in the Moroccan airline. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "This agreement provides us with the opportunity to reach into fast-growing markets in North Africa and across the Med-iterranean into southern Europe," said CEO Adel Ali. "Air Arabia will now be able to expand this coverage area across the Europe, Middle East and Africa [EMEA] region." Mohammad Hassan Bin Salah, chairman of Regional Air Lines, said, "Considering that Morocco expects to welcome an estimated 10 million tourists a year by 2010, this is an timely announcement. There is also a very large Moroccan diaspora who will benefit." Air Arabia, widely expected to place an order of 34 to 50 aircraft worth $4 billion at next week's Dubai Airshow, has said in the past it wants to develop three hubs in total. Air Arabia was founded in 2003 and became profitable two years later. In 2006, it carried 1.7 million passengers. It is the first budget airline in the Middle East and North Africa, but it will not be the first to establish a second base of operations. That distinction goes to Kuwait's Jazeera Airways, which opened a hub in Dubai earlier this year. source: Gulf News

Egypt air? You will transfering in chaotic Cairo miyaa?

Say hello to all the Algerian/Black African brothers. If you see wax Somali-ah you will be lucky but you never know baryahan. Meel walba wey joogaan,,,,

^^Welcome back. Feeling better?

Enjoy your stay in Francaise JB! Bonjour = Hello Merci = Thank you Puis-je avoir un ketchup de tomate avec cet amour ? = Can I have some tomato ketchup with that love? You will be eating alot of bread,,,,,

Djib, to put it bluntly, Djabouti airport is a nightmare! The people there dont give a damn about the passengers, are rude and very arrogant. As soon as it hits 12pm the men are nowhere to be seen as they are chewing, the seating area is cramped and when busy people stand for long periods of time. I will do everything to avoid that place in future IA.

I'm not supporting this admin and their LA stance regardless of how I love to rile reer PL about it on these forums. My point has always been for reer LA to sort themselves out before pointing fingers.

Socodow, baryahan waxad noqotay oday! Keep it up. Very good post.

the SOL group?

the SOL group?