Duke, the TFG has failed thus far. Lets focus on how things will get better shall we?

Just saw the Euro-Trash video and I'm afraid most of what he is saying is nonesense! I'm mean, where does he get his stats from? About crime figures and employment figures etc. I think what he said was very unfair because most of his words could also be applied to someone who has lived in the UK for 15-20 years who also sits around and gets his bi-weekly caydh money!

Sharmaakow safar salaam (Riyaadh???) and make sure to contact me if you are in my kneck of the woods.

LoL I can see some of it was recorded at Ambassador ya JB.

Wish I could have gone to hear things from someone who was there.

A victory for the TFG!!!!

The TFG is a typical Somali organisaton. Give them a bit of percieved power/influence they abuse it (just like the current SL leadership). Sooner or later they tend crumble from within (as already in TFG cabinet).

These guys are great to talk to. When we frst landed in Ingriiska we stayed with an old man who had been there for some 40 years already Allah Yarxamu. Some great stories I tell ya. J11, is there really a Seamen Missionary located in Poplar?

The teenagers in Xamar iska celiya!

if anyone should be banned it should be you and the others who constantly declare a victory when helpless somalis are massacred Fat chance mate fat chance

LoL Good to see a bit of 'professonal' TFG support around. The rest are just cheerleaders,,,,

Yes but the PM has called for talks with those are in fact violent. This contradicts with what you just said. Its been a whole year ya Duke. A year of major support in terms of milatary, logistics and political. The TFG has not achieved what the Int. community expcected/wanted hence the comments by Condi this week and other US officials. The pressure is on. Considering no progress has been made in all fronts (peace, reconciliation and other items in the charter) what is the TFG's new strategy to achieve goals set but the Int. community? You cant repeat 'we will wipe them all out' yet again when this has obviously not been working.

^^Come on man. I'm talking about the 'inside' news. What is the new strategy of calling for talk etc after comments by Condi.

Someone should have told him to remove the plaster covering the hole for the drip he has been on for the past 3 days,,,,

^^Welcome back old boy. Hope all is well in your kneck of the woods. So what is the inside scoop?

Pirates Accuse Hostages of Killing Their Comrades An armed showdown continues off of Somalia's northern coast for the third straight day, with a coalition of Somali, American and German warships surrounding a group of pirates holding people hostage. The group of Somali pirates is estimated to number 60 heavily-armed men, according to military sources in the Somali region of Puntland. The pirates hijacked the Golden Nori chemical tanker in late October, but after weeks of hunting, authorities have managed to surround the ship near Puntland's port of Bossaso. A spokesman for the pirates told Radio Garowe that the Golden Nori destroyed a fishing boat and killed two Somali civilians related to the pirate leaders. The hijacking of the Golden Nori was in response to the double murder and the destruction of valuable property, according to the pirates' spokesman who declined to be named in print. He claimed that the Golden Nori's owner "promised to pay" for the damages, at which point the hostages from Benin and the Philippines would be released. Relevant Links East Africa Economy, Business and Finance Conflict, Peace and Security Crime and Corruption Europe and Africa Somalia Transport and Shipping United States, Canada and Africa But the Puntland administration considers the hijackers pirates and has threatened to use military force to retake control of the Golden Nori. The pirates have thus far refused to accept to surrender, despite dire warning issued by Puntland Fisheries Minister Mohamed Said Rage. [ Full story] Many fear the showdown will lead to a bloody battle between the pirates and coalition forces, setting a new precedent of violence along the Somali coast. http://allafrica.com/stories/200712061056.html

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: loooooool ,,, qaxooti ?? ,, Hell NO ! ! ! i can't be qaxooti in 2007

Hindu gods get summons from court A judge in India has summoned two Hindu gods, Ram and Hanuman, to help resolve a property dispute. Judge Sunil Kumar Singh in the eastern state of Jharkhand has issued adverts in newspapers asking the gods to "appear before the court personally". The gods have been asked to appear before the court on Tuesday, after the judge said that letters addressed to them had gone unanswered. Ram and Hanuman are among the most popular Indian Hindu gods. Judge Singh presides in a "fast track" court - designed to resolve disputes quickly - in the city of Dhanbad. The dispute is now 20 years old and revolves around the ownership of a 1.4 acre plot of land housing two temples. You failed to appear in the court despite notices sent by a peon and post Judge Sunil Kumar Singh in letter to Lord Ram and Hanuman The deities of Ram and Hanuman, the monkey god, are worshipped at the two temples on the land. Temple priest Manmohan Pathak claims the land belongs to him. Locals say it belongs to the two deities. The two sides first went to court in 1987. A few years ago, the dispute was settled in favour of the locals. Then Mr Pathak challenged the verdict in a fast track court. Gift Judge Singh sent out two notices to the deities, but they were returned as the addresses were found to be "incomplete". Local say the temple belongs to the gods Pic: Mahadeo Sen This prompted him to put out adverts in local newspapers summoning the gods. "You failed to appear in court despite notices sent by a peon and later through registered post. You are herby directed to appear before the court personally", Judge Singh's notice said. The two Hindu gods have been summoned as the defence claimed that they were owners of the disputed land. "Since the land has been donated to the gods, it is necessary to make them a party to the case," local lawyer Bijan Rawani said. Mr Pathak said the land was given to his grandfather by a former local king. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7132124.stm

A token gesture Somalia's leader leaves hospital Somalia's interim President Abdullahi Yusuf has been discharged from hospital in Kenya after three days' treatment for respiratory problems. A frail-looking Mr Yusuf, 72, who had a liver transplant 13 years ago, said he would now be travelling to London for a routine check-up. "I had bronchitis and am feeling better, my doctors say I can go to London," Mr Yusuf said. His Ethiopia-backed government is battling insurgents in Mogadishu. Anxiety had gripped Somalis and foreign diplomats after Mr Yusuf was urgently flown to Nairobi on Tuesday from the government seat in Baidoa. Some health officials had described his condition as serious. 'Liars' The BBC's Anne Mawathe in Nairobi says the interim president was earlier being pushed in a wheelchair around the hospital. Dr Mauro Sio, who has been attending to Mr Yusuf for more than a decade, said all X-rays show that he has responded well to the antibiotics that were treating his condition. "He is in perfect condition, and I do not think there is any cause of alarm," Dr Sio said. President Yusuf took issue with reports that he had died and cautioned journalists against misreporting. " Some journalists told the whole world that I am already dead , I saw this on the television but you see me now. I think this is enough proof they are liars," Mr Yusuf told reporters in Nairobi. The UN says 60% of Mogadishu residents have fled their homes because of this year's fighting, meaning one million Somalis are now homeless. Ethiopia helped the transitional government end the Union of Islamic Courts' (UIC) six-month rule over large parts of southern Somalia, last December. But Islamist insurgents continue to stage attacks in the capital. Somalia has not had a functioning national government since 1991. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7132311.stm

Emporer here s the real version. Do try to read from different sources mate Rice urges cease-fire in Somalia (CNN) -- Somalia should reach a cease-fire with its "non-extremist" opposition and finish plans to draft a new constitution, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday. Speaking after a meeting with with African leaders in Ethiopia, she also urged Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi to take "concrete steps" to avoid a renewed war with neighboring Eritrea over its long-running border dispute. Rice's visit to Addis Ababa came as Ethiopian troops are mired in a nearly year-long insurgency in Somalia, where its army is supporting the country's U.N.-backed transitional government. "There must not be a resumption of hostilities initiated by either side," Rice said in a statement issued after the talks. Somali government and Ethiopian troops are battling insurgents led by the Islamic Courts Union, which controlled much of the country before being deposed by Ethiopia's December 2006 invasion. Recent fighting has sent an estimated 200,000 people fleeing the capital Mogadishu, where a government shakeup saw Prime Minister Ali Mohammed Gedi replaced last month by Nur Hassan Hussein, a former Red Crescent official. "A cease-fire agreement with key stakeholders, such as clan and business leaders, would be an important step in helping to facilitate delivery of humanitarian assistance, and would reduce the level of violence and create the conditions for longer-term security sector reform," Rice said. "I also encouraged Prime Minister Hussein to develop a timeline for the remainder of the transitional process by early January, including the drafting of a new constitution and electoral law as the first step in this process." The United States accuses the ICU of harboring suspected al Qaeda figures and did not protest the Ethiopian invasion. At the same time, U.S. and NATO warships are patrolling the waters off Somalia to keep an eye out for suspected terrorists and crack down on the hijackings of merchant ships by Somali pirates. Rice also met with leaders from Africa's Great Lakes countries, which include Burundi, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Rwanda and Uganda, during her visit. Uganda is the sole contributor so far to an African Union peacekeeping mission in Somalia, which Ethiopia had hoped would help keep order and allow its troops to leave. Ethiopian officials Tuesday demanded that the international community step up its support for the mission. But in November, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon reported that the security situation made the deployment of a U.N. peacekeeping operation unrealistic. Uganda has about 1,800 troops in Somalia, officially as the vanguard of a larger African Union peacekeeping force, though so far no other countries have sent reinforcements. Ethiopia, which sent soldiers to Somalia late last year to wipe out Islamic militants, is not part of the peacekeeping force and is hoping to withdraw. "We do believe the Ethiopian forces should not have to stay in Somalia past a certain point, and that will require peacekeeping forces, very robust peacekeeping force, and so that will be part of my discussions here," Rice said. Peacekeepers have tried to pacify Somalia before, with tragic results. More than a decade ago, a massive U.N. relief operation was launched for thousands of civilians left starving because of fighting in Somalia. But 1993 attacks by Somali militiamen that brought down two Black Hawk helicopters and killed 18 U.S. servicemen were followed by the withdrawal of U.S. troops and the eventual end of the U.N. peacekeeping operation. Rice is only the fourth secretary of state to visit Ethiopia and the first in a decade. Madeleine Albright made a stop in Addis Ababa in 1997, according to the State Department historian's office. In her first meeting Wednesday, Rice met with leaders from Burundi, Rwanda, Uganda and Congo to discuss fighting in eastern Congo that threatens stability throughout their Great Lakes region. "We had a very thorough discussion," Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said later, adding, "Part of the danger in Africa is handling issues in a superficial way." Rice said dealing with rebels in eastern Congo is critical to re-establishing normalcy in a region that has been devastated by decades of war and genocide that have killed millions. On Sudan, she said she would tackle elements of the Darfur conflict and the faltering peace deal that ended Sudan's long-running North-South civil war, even though President Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir's government has signaled it will not see her. Rice said she wants to focus on overcoming logistical hurdles in Darfur to standing up a joint U.N.-African Union peacekeeping force for the vast region which has been ravished by years of conflict. "We're just going to have to remove these obstacles and get on with it," Rice said. As for the 2005 peace deal between al-Bashir's government and southern rebels, she said "it's time to refocus our efforts there." "That is really an agreement that we cannot afford to let unravel," Rice said. cnn.com

LoL I'll wait for him to turn up and flood the forum then :cool:

Its very unusual of Duke,,,

Caamir, this obsession to paint a bad picture of the ONLF by yourself and others is getting pathetic! The struggle is an assett for the 'real' nationalists and a liability for the fakers (TFG supporters).

If Floyd can 'manage' Hatton's never stop style then I think he can find the openings.

Originally posted by LLPP: quote:Somalia President's Health Fuels Speculation Over Successor Why worry when we have Abdullahi Yusuf's son as his successor! Who is 'we'? Waad is kashiftaye