Generator has gone down again 48 degress C!!

^^Who are LFC playing tonight?

JB, A little slow on the up-take I see. It’s always a sight to see someone blow their own trumpet long before a debate has started let alone ended (reminds me of my teens). I’m not interested in quoting you one line at a time ya JB as it can get very tedious and tends to divert the topic. Your ever predictable comments about religion/belief have been noted along with your urgency to try and divert it towards such a debate. But, this is not about MY beliefs and how I came to such a conclusion Johnny, its about YOUR beliefs and how YOU reconcile them with what you (and many of your Atheist friends) have been shouting off the rooftops all along ie ‘research’, ‘findings’, ‘empirical data’ etc etc. Is there a chance that this same methodology you champion when questioning a believer is not being used by yourself when making such decisions as there being no deity? Is there only one form of research result you’re willing to accept (the absolute form I mentioned earlier)? I have been asking you a question which can easily be reconciled with the article. The title being ‘Agnostic about Atheism’. When I asked you if we were created ‘from a puff of smoke’ I was pulling your leg (with the ‘puff of smoke’ bit) but I still expect you to answer the question on what you believe is how we were created. If the answer is you don’t know then don’t you think you’re having your cake and eating it? Think long and hard now,,,,,,,,,,,

Racism is everywhere. Its how you deal with it that counts.

^^Didn't know that was you saxib. You're famous dhe I have enough documents on my desks saxib but I would like to read this law. I may just have some comments on it. So whats your take on Somalia? Is it a good time for oil to e found?

Bokero I worked on establishing the oil law in Sao tome Are you serious? How involved were you and what were the terms? The nitty gritty stuff.

8 weeks to go Rahima, all the best IA

^^then what?

Looks like NG is onto something here Careful with the lads saxib. One day they are staunch nationalists, the next they don’t mind SL going its own way so long as the people of SSC have a referendum! Today its reer Awdal who are being kept hostage

JB, Pointing at other people’s beliefs and dismissing them is all well and good (and expected) but by using such reasoning (there being a lack of evidence) one is expected to apply the same thought process when making his/her views clear to others on their own beliefs or lack thereof. Or is it a one way street? There are many ways of conducting research and results either point to a ‘likely’ outcome or make recommendations on something absolute. In this case (is there a creator?) we are dealing with the former. We will get onto that later (God willing ) Back to my earlier question. I did ask you how we (humans) came into being. Now, without the usual merry dance routine, can you answer the question? Enlighten us

A secret meeting has taken place in Baydhabo city, the capital of Bay Region [south-central Somalia], between interim Somali government defence minister Muhyidin Muhammad Hajji Ibrahim and senior Ethiopian army officers who have been in the city these past two days. In the two-day meeting, which ended yesterday, the two sides discussed cooperation in maintenance of security in Somalia, which has been lately worsening. The security situation in Baydhabo, which hosts parliament, is particularly on the verge of spiraling out of control. Sources close to the meeting told Somaaljecel.com that the Ethiopian officers and interim Somali government defence minister agreed to cooperate on security, with the Ethiopian government suggesting that Somali government army soldiers be trained to take part in maintenance of security. Somali government defence minister Muhyidin Muhammad Hajji particular requested the Ethiopian government to provide arms to Somali troops, saying that they did not have adequate weapons with which to keep security and defend themselves against the insurgents. Reports say that the Ethiopian officers accused some Somali soldiers of working with the insurgents, even selling arms and ammunition to them and sometimes taking off their uniforms and fighting alongside them. To counter this matter, the Ethiopian officers are said to have proposed that Somali soldiers undergo training as well as work with Ethiopian troops based in Somalia, that every Somali army unit be led by an Ethiopian officer so that their activities are known. The Somali defence minister accepted the proposal. Interim Somali government soldiers trained in Ethiopia are stationed in Bay and Banaadir regions. Another batch of soldiers trained in Ethiopia have not yet arrived in the country; they are said to have encamped in Doolow, a locality that straddles border between Somalia and Ethiopia. Interim Somali government defence minister told the Ethiopian officers that the Somali government lacked financial resources and therefore his ministry could not pay soldiers salaries. He requested the Ethiopian government to temporarily pay salaries of Somali government soldiers. Originally published by Somaaljecel website in Somali 13 Jul 08. © 2008 BBC Monitoring Africa. Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning. All rights Reserved. Story Source: BBC Monitoring Africa

Waligeed Burco may arkin'e (last year's trip doesn't count) ha u bixin. Laakin qaar badan way dhaantaa (like saxiibkaa who threatens to unleash people with supposed super powers on you if you're not careful )

Those nigerians must be raking it in

LoL at Rudy

Ngonge,, you've lost me saxib :confused: Originally posted by Paragon: What's this? A reer Burco convention? Paragon, you're welcome to join us

what she calls Baadhi (Party)

You have expanded your horizons dhe

^^I doubt he would do that unless he gets the ambassador to UK position promised to him the typical opportunist he is Name change? This is my real name (apart from the missing first name).

^^You mean the Iraqi style 'Awakening' councils?

I didn't know what his name was the Development Minister :confused:

^Do you send money to JG then?

THE TRANSITIONAL FEDERAL CHARTER OF THE SOMALI REPUBLIC FEBRUARY 2004. NAIROBI. If we were to look at the Transitional Federal Charter (yes there is one), we would easily pick out the failure of the current Ethiopian sponsored admin. Here goes: PREAMBLE. In the Name of Allah, the most Merciful, the Beneficent. WE, THE DELEGATES REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF THE SOMALI REPUBLIC have solemnly resolved to enact a Transitional Federal Charter for the Somali Republic; DETERMINED to live in peace and unity as one indivisible, free and sovereign nation; RECOGNIZING the gross violations of human rights inflicted upon the Somali people and the need to re-establish peace, democracy, the rule of law, social justice, the dignity and integrity of all Somalis; COMMITTED to establishing and nurturing a Transitional Federal Government for the Somali Republic; DETERMINED to foster reconciliation, national unity, and good governance; DO HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO THE SOMALI PEOPLETHIS CHARTER. There is no peace and today Somalia is NOT a sovereign nation. There is no recognition of the gross human rights violations against the Somali people. In fact, the very same government who pledged to establish peace, democracy and rule of law has been to blame for the human rights violations. Where is the reconciliation? Where is the national unity and good governance? Ethiopian tanks roaming the capital are not equivalent to national unity! More to come,,,,

^I'm not sure if I do but I really hope Somalia is not raped like countries. Oil is a good thing to have but it must be managed correctly with the right political framework/constitution and above peace all in place prior to exploration. Somalia has none of the above at the moment but has plenty of greedy opportunists who would sell their own mother let alone a country's future revenue. See the other thread 'Somali Politicians' for what I think should be up-coming state laws. The next one being a law against the selling of any Somali infrastructure and utility companies to non-Somali firms. In the case of oil, careful drafting of any agreement to ensure a balanced give and take sitiation should be the way to go like the South Koreans are doing in Kirkuk, Iraq.

^^It has come to that and by the sounds of it you're struggeling for info,,,,

^^Go to Stepney dear,,,,it should be approaching Dhuhur now,,,,