^^ Well, if that's how you feel..

At least we all agree it is Ethiopian..... embassy but not as we know 'em.

Originally posted by Ms Dhucdhuc & Dheylo: I became this way after the paraniod pair (Ayoub and Stealth) refused to take in any criticism of their beloved homeland/people. But the thing is..I didnt even criticise but gave them generous compliments . How many are from Muqdishu or Bari here? Do they come to each other's rescue when any criticism is directed at their city/region? [/QB] Make up your mind, will you. What generous copliment did I refuse? this one?

^^ Who me? Edit: Don't know what the compliment is but thanks anyways.

I see the paranoid trio are all here. What a family! North I used to think Muj. Silaanyo was the leader of Nayruus' imaginary "SNM gang". Now he tell us he's under house/office arrest. This is better than Sopranos if you ask me.

Originally posted by Ms Dhucdhuc & Dheylo: ^^ Do you think that is a real picture? I didnt think so. The pictures on the first page seem genuine though. Are you related to Nayruus and ME? Paragon You lucky B.

Originally posted by Sharmarkee: Where in the world is Laas Geel?, I heard Laas Ciidle, I heard Laas dhuure,Laas Caanood too, but never Laas Geel. Here's one bloger's visit to the site. web page

Originally posted by Nayruus: C$N, you know the implication. How come the leader of the main opposition party does not bother to visit his constituent for more than six years? When you are attempting to comment on this question, wouldn’t it be fair if you adopt the mental status of the SNM gangs that claim that they live in a democracy which the “hired pen” described as the best kept “democracy in Africa”? I mean put yourself in their shoes. Tell me in the history of a democracy where an opposition leader has chosen not to bother to visit outside the country let along his hometown for that long… Compare that with waraabe waaraabe’s travel routes for comparatively similar time.. This is not "waxa la yiri". This is the truth..the man is under house and office arrest . He can not even visit Berbara. I hope this helps you brother web page

Mohammed Addow's reports from Somaliland have been great. He is true Ndugu and the channel's no #1 star.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Ayoubow , it’s very simple adee; ****** is a political reality in the North! Their hostile stance against secessionism is necessitated by the mulish stances of the separatist folks like you! The minute you guys give up this crazy idea of dividing Somalia into mini clannish enclaves, the sooner this ****** thing weakens and loses its strength! Until then I think it need be there as it serves a very important function ! Filinkaa hore baan udaawaday! I'm sure you'll invent another use for it when the "cold war" is over. This clannish agenda didn't lose its strength after the Union of 1960, in fact it mushroomed into MOD. What's gonna make it different this time? Was it not Col Yey who sent Col Afguduud to Lascanood, and is not Yey and Afguduud in Kismayo now? All in the name of Unity/Somalinimo of course. You choose to split hairs and support one clannish mission while condemning the other. Again you didn't tell me where you would stop with your secession exercise, and that's quite telling adeer!! I've told you before Somaliland is out the way it came in. Not 2/3 of what came in not 3/4 of what came into the Union. That's how the rest of "shanta Soomaali" (not enclaves) portrayed in your flag should decide their destiny, don't you agree? I've challenged you to name representatives of Somalilanders that were not present when the decision to withdraw from the Union was taken in 1991, you failed to respond. I've asked if you think majority of Somalilanders are pro Somali Republic, you ducked again! What is your argument apart from Yey-conspired clanish agenda? ps--Dooddu madax bay leedahay. Haseyeeshe waxay u muuqataa inaad minjaheeda jeclaatay ! Nice try! Adeer I asked a simple question and you decided to take me wild goose-chasing with arguments used by dimwits of SOL. You even startled me by asking me "who are you" (read "yaa tahay macalinka noh?") Is it possible to get a straight answer to the above question yaa Xiin?

Ms D&D Your Jewish comparison is totally off the mark. Zionist's Greater Israel has a lot in common with Somaliweyn irredentism than Somaliland.

Xiinow you remind me of my old biology teacher who'd try every trick to avoid giving straight answers when questioned about "evolution theory" ("somalinimo theory" in your instance.) You still haven't answered my original question, have you? In the mean time the topic seems to have moved from "Somalinimo = Islaanimo" to "Somalinimo = "territorial integrity" to "Somalinimo = *******". Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Who are you adeer? When you came in, you were not alone, and now to get out, you need the consent of those who were with you! Markii raggu sida odoyadda makhaayadaha jooga u hadlo waa shiddo adeer. Maantoo dhan waxaan ku leeyahay qabiil qurihi qaran ma noqon karo, haddu damco inuu noqdona kuwa kalana waa ku dayyaanayaan, kamana celin kayarsid...but you seem to be ignoring it for your own peril! Name one person that represents the people of Somaliland that was not there when the decision to withdraw from the Union was taken on that historic day in 1991. Maybe you think majority of people don't support the decision to withdraw, is that it? The Union failed. We tried it and it end up as world's # 1 example of a failed state. To use ******** as as a pro-Union is a classic SOL village idi*t argument and you're better than that. ******* is a reshuffle of the old MOD which made the Somali Republic a failure, is it not? Is that an argument to make me change my mind? mmmh.. If you expect me to believe in a "territorial integrity-based unity" that keeps my cousins outside, why can't you accept the Somaliland I want? Do you wish the destinies of Ethiopia's K5 and Kenya's NFD to be decided on this ******* level politics too? I guess not. Sophist You're willing to die for "Somalinimo" but in the mean time you're cheerleading Yey despite all his criminal actions. You're not serious about martyrdom, are you? At least Baashi and Xiin only support his shidh-steering ******* up north while distancing themselves from him in Kismaayo. [ May 13, 2007, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

I think Nayruus is closely related to Mr Me in more ways than one. This is the man who famously claimed he would support Satan if he wraps himself in with Somali flag. He went on to cheer for Xassan Turki who called it meaningless "maro". He seemes to be cheerleading for Satan once again, in the name Islaanimo off course. Go on tell us, how close to Mr Me are you?

^^ Adeer what number are you? (warning: that was a trick question coz Red and Xanthus might dig up somethig that leaves egg on one's face) Don't quit this thead once again will you?

Xiinow are you reduced to using SOL village idi*ts' arguments? Somaliland is represented on the Buluugle's star and you should show it the respect it deserves. The 1960 Union was a building block project to something "greater", which as we now know turned out to be a major failure. This project failed big time and I'm out as I came in, simple as. I'll deal with my problem my way, you deal with yours.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Why don’t you articulate what is sham about ‘Somalinimo’ or false about unity based on the territorial integrity of Somalia? Do you have to be holding a Somali passport and a buluugle-waver to be a member of "somalinimo" club? If the answer is "YES" then rule me and my cousins in Djibouti and Jigjiga out of this bogus club of yours. If the answer is "NO", why the hell should I care so much for a "unity based on the territorial integrity of Somalia" when it's not necessary for "Somalinimo" anyway? If you say "MAYBE, MAYBE NOT" you win. The absurdity of it all!! Mr. Me, I see you've decided it's convenient enough to rejoin this thread again.

Can a djibouti national have this Somalinimo?

^ Baashi, your whole argument is based on the assumption Yey was sincere about the Khartoum agreement. That's one hell of an assumption which overlooks Yey's treacherous nature. His actions contradict your assumptions. While he was talking peace, the defeated Mogadishu warlords were congregating in Baidoa and so were the Ethio troop he promised would come way before ICU's take-over of Mogadishu. This the same Yey who in 90's brought in Ethio troops to fight the wadaado. The Yey you've portrayed seems to be an imaginary one, not the "ciyaal-suuq" warlord we know.

Nayruus you answered half the question.

Nayruus, when did you put on the blue skirt and start cheerleading for Yey again? Windwind online eh?

Originally posted by Kashafa: Sxb. As genuine and noble your good intentions are (again they don't cash that check at the bank), your version of secular Somalinimo is corrupt, bankrupt, and extinct. Deader than the Dodo itself. No more Kacaanka. No more Guulwade Aabahee-garashada Siad Barre. No more orientation centers. I think you're asking a little bit too much of Mr ME. He had sleepless nights last time this subject came up..

Bixinta Qandaraaskii Dhisida Biriishka labaad ee Caasimadda Jumhuuriyadda Somaliland ee Hargeysa Shirkad wadaniya oo lagu magacaabo ADCON ayaa ku guulaystay qandaraaski lagu bixinayay dhismaha Biriishka labaad ee caasimada Somaliland ee Hargeysa ka dib markii dhawr kulan oo qorshayn iyo qiimayn ku saabsan arrintan laga yeeshay labadii bilood ee u danbeeyay. Fadhi ay yeesheen guddiga dhisida Biriishka 2aad ee Hargeysa taariikhdu markay ahayd 10/01/2007 ayaa lagu go'aamiyay in la sii daayo tartankan qandaraaska lagu bixinayo dhisida biriishka laga bilaabo 11/01/2007 lana soo xereeyo qiimaynta 4/02/2007. Waxa tartankan ka qayb galay afar shirkadood oo isku soo hadhay markii qiimayn hordhac ah la sameeyay shirkadihii soo xereeyay waraaqihi ka warbixinayay aqoonta, tayada iyo qalabka . Laba ka mid ah shirkadahaasi ka soo baxay qiimayntii hordhaca ahayd waxay ahaayeen wadani halka mid kale ahayd jayniis (Chinese ) takelana ahayd itoobiyan (Ethiopian). Waxa qiima sheegtoodii soo xereeyay sedax shirkood oo ka mid ahaa afartii qaatay waraaqaha lagu tartamay. Sadexdaa oo kala ahaa mid wadani iyo labadii ajanabika ahaa halka shirkadii afraad ee wadaniga ahayd ka hadhay tartanka. Waxa waraaqihii sadexda shirkadood ee tartamayay lagu furay shir ay iskugu yimaadeen guddigii dhisida biriishka taariikhdu markay ahayd 4/02/2007. Qiimaha ay shirkaduhu soo bandhigeen waxay kala ahaa yeen sidan: 1. ADCON $1,168,261.00 2. SAYT ENG. $1,627,084.00 3. China Construction Company $2,260,608.50 Ka dib markay wakiiladii shirkaduhu ku saxeexeen waraaqihii ay soo kudbiyeen shirka hortiisa ayaa loo saaray gudi farsamo oo ka koobnayn lix farsamo yaqaan (Engineers) si ay u soo hubiyaan saxnimada qiimaynta ay soo gudbiyeen shirkaduhu una soo gudbiyaan aragtidooda midda ay doorbidayaan. Waxa loo balamay kulan kale oo lagu go'aamiyo bixinta qandaraaska taariikhdu markay tahay 8/02/2007. Ka dib markay gudida farsamo darastay shirkasta arrimaha kala ah: 1. Tayada qalabka 2. Waayo aragnimada shaqaalaha, gaar ahaan farsamo yaqaanada 3. qorshaha shaqo 4. Lahaansha waraaqaha shaqada ee Wasaarada Hawlaha Guud iyo Guryayntu bixiso 5. Qiimaha ay shaqada ku qabanayaan marka la barbardhigo ta uu u qoondeeyeey Injineerka Biriishka oo ahayd $1,241,671.00 oo la rabay in ay 10% ka sarayso ama ka hoosayso tan Injineerka biriishka Haddaba, guddigii injineeradu waxay ku soo taliyeen in la siiyo qandaraaska shirkada wadaniga ah ee la yidhaahdo ADCON ka dib markay qodobada kor ku xusan kaga wanaagsanaatay labadii shirkadood ee kale. Ka dib markii la soo gaba gabeeyay suallahii iyo jawaabihii laga bixiyay doorashada shirkadan wadaniga ah, waxa la go'aansaday in qandaraaska la siiyo shirda wadaniga ah ee ADCON. Waxase laga codsaday shirkada in ay soo gudbiyaa magacyadda injineerada mashruuca iyo goobta shaqada (Project manager and site engineer). Shirkaduna waxay balanqaaday in ay soo gudbinaso magacyadda injineerada ka hor inta aan la saxeexin waraaqaha qandaraaska. Halkaasa lagu soo gabagabeeyay kulanadii la xidhiidhsanaa bixinta qandaraaska dhisida biriishka labaad ee Hargeysa. Iyadda oo shaqada dhisidda biriishka la bilaabayo bil ka bacdi marka la saxeexo heshiiska qandaraaska si ay shirkadu u diyaarsato qalabka shaqada lagu qabano sida heshiisku dhigayo. Aadan Axmed Diirye, Gudoomiye, bidix iyo Sheekh Maxamed Sheekh Cumar Dirir, Xubin, midig more info and pictures

Baaq Ku socda dhamaan Dadka Reer Somaliland Muwaadin Maskaxdaada iyo Muruqaaga Garaadkaaga iyo Gacantaada Ayaa Horumarka Dalku ku Jiraa Mudane: sida aynu wada Ogsoonahay, Raxmaadkii Gu' ee Da'ay April 2005, Khasaarihii ay geysteen waxaa ka mid ahaa uguna muhiimsanaa Biriijkii labaad ee Hargeisa ee Caasimadda (sibidhlaydii) oo uu dhamaantii daadkii qaaday, iyo kii waynaa ee Faras-magaalaha Caasimadda oo dhaawac gaadhay. taasina waxay muujinaysaa in haddii Raxmaadkii oo kale Da'aan (Raxmaanku waa sidaynu Illaahay ka TuugaynoNuqsaan la'aane). ay suurta gal tahay in dhibaato intaa kabadani iman karto, Alle kama yeelee. haddaba si arrintaa looga gaashaanto, waxaa shir isugu yimi Xukuumadda, Culumadda ,Ganacsatada, iyo wax garadka dagan Caasimadda .warbixin tilmaamaysa in hay'adihii caalamiga ahaa hungo lagala kulmay ka dib, waxa la go'aansaday. 1- in reer Somaliland isku tashadaan, meel kasta oo ay joogaan si ay Dalkooda u horumariyaan. 2- in Guddi loo saaro wax ka qabashada arrintan iyo Guud ahaanba horumarinta caasimadda, Guddidaas oo ka kooban Culimada, Ganacsatada, waxgaradka, hay'adda waddooyinkaQaranka, Guddoomiyaha G/ Hargeisa iyo Duqa caasimadda. 3- inay u madax banaanaato hawsheeda. 4- waxaa loo bixiyey Guddida Dhismaha Biriijka Hargeisa iyo Horumarinta Caasimadda . waxaanay ka kooban tahay 17 xubnood Muwaadin hordhacaa iyo warbixintaa kooban ka dib. anaga oo aaminsan isku tashiga iyo iskaashigu inay yihiin tiirarka ay ummadi horumar ku hanan karto, kuna gaadhi karto himiladeeda Baryada iyo baraarug la'aantuna ay yihiin Astaanta dibu dhaca waxaanu kula socodsiinaynaa si aad waajibkaa wadaniga ah een Aakhiro iyo Aduun toona kaa lumayn u gudato, in aad wixii talo iyo tusaale ah ama Gacan iyo wax tar ah aad ku soo hagaajin karto Canaawiintan iyo Accounts kan hoos ku qoran. E-mail : biriij@hotmail.com Account: Dahab shiil : D7450 Telesom: 002522 511411 Bank Of Somaliland :US Dollar A/c No. 149 Telcom: 002522 300056 Somalilan shilling A/c No. 335 Xoghayaha Arrimaha Dibada & Gudaha Cabdillaahi ismaciil Cali (Cirro) +2522 424440 ahna Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Hargeisa Xoghayaha Arrimaha Dibada & Gudaha Maxamed shukriJamac Tell: +2522 426199 Xoghayaha Maktabka: Cabduraxmaan Cumar Siigo 002522 410747

^^ How long before Yey is made to answer for the "ciyaal-suuqnimo" he displayed just before his Jawhar exist, I wonder? How long will the egos of Mo Dheere and Qaybdiid be contained in the same box? Time will tell.. To some TFG ascendancy to power was far more dangerous than giving the Habashis and their Neocon backers the perfect pretext they have been looking for ages. You would say that Baashow , wouldn't you? I say: some would rather hand over the country to Ethios than see ICU take control. The Islamic Courts were not much of an obstacle to the TFG (read Yey in this instance) when some Mogadishu based warlords declared war under the guise of some anti-terrorism alliance. These warlords were mostly renegade TFG ministers virtually openly backed by Ethios and gringos. When these warlords were defeated, they were welcomed back with opened arms by the TFG (read Yey in this instance too). What makes it so easy for Yey to make up with his biggest opponents than giving the ICU a chance? He knew the day he made geniune compromise for peace with ICU would have been political suicide as far as he was concerned. Yey went on to allow the re-arming of these Mogadishu warlords under his nose knowing full that their defeat months before was mostly popular uprising by Mogadishu residents. That was the sequence of events and as they say...the rest is history.

De La Hoya-Mayweather: Power vs. speed Michael Hirsley ON BOXING May 5, 2007 12:00 AM LAS VEGAS -- Oscar De La Hoya needs to start fast, establishing his power and left jab early. Floyd Mayweather has to be fast, making his quick punches and footwork a frustrating factor. That is the shared perception of top trainer Emanuel Steward, former heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis and noted boxing historian Bert Sugar as they await the opening bell of the De La Hoya-Mayweather mega-fight Saturday night, a scheduled 12-round bout for De La Hoya's 154-pound World Boxing Council junior-middleweight title. All three note that De La Hoya has been bothered by speed, as evidenced by two losses to Shane Mosley; and that Mayweather, while unbeaten, tends to fight with his chin exposed and could be vulnerable to well-timed jabs. "Oscar has a great jab, but can he catch Floyd?" Lewis asked. He also wondered how much De La Hoya has slowed at age 34, averaging only one fight a year over the last three years. "If you can't catch a person," Lewis said, "you're in a world of trouble." Steward said Mayweather must exploit his superior quickness, a more significant advantage than De La Hoya's size. "Floyd needs to be extremely fast with hands and feet, confuse Oscar with speed," Steward said. "I've never seen anyone physically handle Floyd. Normally, a fight of this type favors the younger, faster fighter." For De La Hoya to overcome Mayweather's speed, Steward said, "he needs to apply pressure behind the left jab, to set up the left hook. And he needs to stay in an upright position, don't make himself shorter than Mayweather." Sugar agreed about the left jab, advising that De La Hoya double- and triple-jab, making Mayweather lean to the right and thereby become vulnerable to follow-up left hooks. That said, here is a Tale of the Tape and a composite of what Lewis. Steward, Sugar and I see as the two fighters' strengths and weaknesses: De La Hoya's strengths?He is two inches taller. He is also bigger, coming down to the 154-pound limit while Mayweather is moving up to that weight. After Friday's weigh-in, De La Hoya could regain enough to outweigh his opponent by 10 pounds or more. He has a thunderous left hook, surely a knockdown if not a knockout punch. In addition, he can jab effectively with above-average speed. Mayweather's strengths?He is fast and elusive afoot. He possesses terrific hand speed and accuracy. His quickness in moving and punching does not diminish as the fight wears on. He can sustain his energy and pace for 12 rounds. Unbeaten and determined to remain so in his quest to be recognized among the sport's all-time best, he has the heart of a champion. De La Hoya's weaknesses?He is four years older and with only three bouts in the last three years, has been far less active than Mayweather, who has fought six times over that span. He has shown signs of tiring in the late rounds of fights. At times he nullifies his height advantage by fighting from a crouch. Speedy opponents have given him trouble. Mayweather's weaknesses?Since he often initiates with power shots rather than jabs, he may not jab as effectively as his opponent. Although elusive, he is sometimes not in position to counter if pressured. He has a history of hurting his tender right hand in fights. As an unbeaten champion who hasn't been seriously tested as a pro, he may be overconfident coming into this bout. mhirsley@tribune.com http://mobile.chicagotribune.com/detail.jsp?key=35452 --------------------- I hope this one lives up to the hype.