Transport?, healthcare?, education?, economy?, energy?

[Chimera]

What exactly has the government done in these sectors? If countries like DR Congo, where Africa's ''world war'' was raging, can spearhead foreign direct investment and manage the rehabilitation of important economic transport systems, why can't we?

 

The typical claim that we need stability to do rara is getting old. All of this focus on politicians and their hissyfits or succession is making me nauseous. We all know visionary individuals like Ali Fatah will not be chosen specifically because people like him would focus on the above sectors. Shariif with all the popularity and support he received both domestically and internationally has done ''fck all'' for our country.

[N.O.R.F]

^With peace comes development.

[cynical lady]

What exactly has the government done in these sectors? If countries like DR Congo, where Africa's ''world war'' was raging, can spearhead foreign direct investment and manage the rehabilitation of important economic transport systems, why can't we?

 

The typical claim that we need stability to do rara is getting old. All of this focus on politicians and their hissyfits or succession is making me nauseous. We all know visionary individuals like Ali Fatah will not be chosen specifically because people like him would focus on the above sectors. Shariif with all the popularity and support he received both domestically and internationally has done ''fck all'' for our country.

And what have you done for your country?

[Thierry.]

It is not easy to attract Foreign Direct Investments (FDI), put your self in the shoes of Multinational Corporation, why should they invest in Somalia, the DR Congo example is not in the same parable for the DRC provides a real incentive to invest (Fantastic reserves in natural resources).

 

The bottom line is Somalia does not have educated workforce, the infrastructure is non existent, the rule of law is weak, Political instability is pandemic, lack of Good Governance, Unproven natural resources).

 

If you want to spearhead FDI it should first start from Somalis, why should foreigners invest in Somalia when the wealthy Merchants of Eastleigh and Dubai don’t make the necessary first move.

 

Somali Folks should develop their regions, only then will you see moves in the right direction.

 

Somalia has not had a strong central Government for over a decade, we cannot expect the poor sole who leads it to make miracles.

[Chimera]

Originally posted by N.O.R.F:

^With peace comes development.

These guys at TFG won't win us peace, nor will the devils Al-Shabab turn Somalia into a phoenix rising from the ashes, which is its rightful destiny. Forget both groups, my heroes are Nationlink, Jubba Airways, Dahabshiil, Daallo Airlines, Hormuud and the millions of small businesses keeping the country afloat. A Corporate Somalia will ensure long term stability, they are the future not religious warlords or clannist governments.

 

Let's give these destructive fools a big middle finger and stop wasting our time on them. Remove the twenty microphones from their faces and turn the camera elsewhere, built a highway through Villa Somalia, and drop a factory on Al-Shabab's headquarters.

 

These nicampoops are holding us back, none of them are interested in enrollment rates for Somali school children, their lunch, their books. These fools aren't interested in caring for Somali mothers after birth, or the child that is born. These fools do not care about the elders who left them a great progressive country they messed up.

 

The life expectancy of both the TFG and Shabab will be less than five years, trust me in five years time both corrupt groups will be a thing of the past, just as 2005 there were the 'Original Warlords' and today 2010 they are gone.

[N.O.R.F]

Thierry pretty much summed up the reasons why and I agree with him that investment must come from Somalis first. But who will invest their hard earned money into a war zone? Peace must exist before anyone (Somali or foreign) is prepared to take a risk.

 

Force Majeure

 

Having said that, when peace is achieved, there is no limit to what can be done in terms of infrastructure and public services (with the right level of investment of course).

[Chimera]

Originally posted by Thierry.:

It is not easy to attract Foreign Direct Investments (FDI), put your self in the shoes of Multinational Corporation, why should they invest in Somalia, the DR Congo example is not in the same parable for the DRC provides a real incentive to invest (Fantastic reserves in natural resources).

 

The bottom line is Somalia does not have educated workforce, the infrastructure is non existent, the rule of law is weak, Political instability is pandemic, lack of Good Governance, Unproven natural resources).

 

If you want to spearhead FDI it should first start from Somalis, why should foreigners invest in Somalia when the wealthy Merchants of Eastleigh and Dubai don’t make the necessary first move.

 

Somali Folks should develop their regions, only then will you see moves in the right direction.

 

Somalia has not had a strong central Government for over a decade, we cannot expect the poor sole who leads it to make miracles.

Come on Thierry bro, the same oil Sea beneath Saudi Arabia goes through Sudan and Somalia. The former African country is already exporting, while the latter is expected to wield more than Kazakhstan. The largest American Oil companies wouldn't have been swarming around Somalia in the 80s if this wasn't the case. Infact if the Puntland reserves really are at the current estimate of 7 billion barrels, this alone could sustain Somali development for 40 years if handled correctly(stable 400000+ barrels a day). This is not a question of if, but simply one of when.

 

What conflict ridden African countries succesfully have done is secure their capitals and the areas that are resource rich, despite instability raging elsewhere. Somali military history is one of the most impressive on the continent spanning multiple centuries, are you honestly trying to tell me that soldiers who fought the Portuguese and British Empires across East Africa and the Middle East, defeating the former and keeping the latter hyperpower at bay for over a quarter of century, and who showed an excellent record against the Japanese in Burma, not to forget destroyed the Ethiopian Imperial army in the 70s can't secure a single capital?

 

TFG has no intention to built a strong Somali National Army that would send Al-Shabab packing, just as it has no intention to accomodate Somali conglomerates wishing to invest billions like TNIE or Dahabshiil when they already loot the factories of small-sized companies like Coca-Cola Somalia or the Bakaraa market. What we are seeing is militiamen with dubious ties being called ''Somali soldiers'' or the ''Somali Army'', and groups of corrupt thugs being dubbed ''Somali government'' or ''Islamists''.

 

The notion that we need a ''strong central government'' to flourish is a western invention, historic Somali Maritime Enterprise spanning multiple continents from Venice to Hyderabad and from Madagascar to China, directly contradicts this claim. What we need is a decentralised civilizational matrix of flourishing cities each with a strong army and navy loosely part of a federal system securing our borders and seas.

 

This would see an immense influx of Somali investment, more than we see today. Not to mention many countries like China and the UAE want to flood Somalia with infrastructure projects if only their security and investment was taken care off.

 

Neither TFG or the Shabab devils have that kind of capability, or visionary approach to building a country, hence why our only hope lies with Somali corporations like Dahabshiil, Jubba Airways, TNIE, Hormuud and Nationlink, even the latter company with a woman at the helm is already showing a forward-looking Somalia I hope to see more off.

[Thierry.]

Psycho Somali, I concur with Norf Peace and Stability breeds development in all aspects of society. I am not knocking enterprises but you must realise that they are profit making entities, with out the rule of law and a strong government, they will do whatever they want for they are not held accountable to anyone.

 

The current global economical crises is a good example.

[Muriidi]

ani yacni saan u fahmay .. xabashidu .. iyo kufaartii makka waxay caayaysay hindida .. oo waxay lahaayeen xafladahaada hindiga ah waxay kharibeen diinta ! hindidu'se waxay tiri aroosyadaydayda lamaanan imaanin masajidka ee kacabada markaan imaano waxaan u labisanaa sida ghandi!when coming to the ka'ba leave all worldly desires like colorful flowers and elephants behind .. partying every now and then does not destroy our faith

 

waxaa yaab leh aroos meel kale ka socda waxaad waliba masajika dhexdiisa ooga caayaysid ...ama u canjilaysid karikateryahow !

[Chimera]

This is a very relevant topic vis-a-vi the Politics section, not really 'General'' section material. MMA?

 

Originally posted by Thierry.:

Psycho Somali, I concur with Norf Peace and Stability breeds development in all aspects of society. I am not knocking enterprises but you must realise that they are profit making entities, with out the rule of law and a strong government, they will do whatever they want for they are not held accountable to anyone.

 

The current global economical crises is a good example.

I'm over it, i get it, we are toast.

[Kamaavi]

Politics doesn't have much to do with politics.. but arguably politics is everywhere and in everything, so in a way it does.