An open letter to Professor Kapteijns: A rejoinder

[oba hiloowlow]

by Abdulkadir Osman “Aroma”

Thursday, March 28, 2013

 

Recently I have read and gave cursory look at your book entitled “Clan cleansing in Somalia”, published 2013. As you said you had travelled and visited places like: Addis Ababa, Jigjig, Djibouti, Yemen, Nairobi, Netherlands as well as Rome & London, but never travelled to Somalia. Really you have done extensive research, an important and valuable work. Your book will be part of Somali history good or bad, true or untrue, biased or fair, partial or impartial. As writer who likes history books as well as literature and arts, I appreciated some parts of your book, but disagreed on some inaccurate reports reflected in it

 

 

http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2013/mar/28686/an_open_letter_to_professor_kapteijns_a_rejoinder.aspx

[oba hiloowlow]

very interesting read

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

This HAG man is well versed on even SL issues

 

You praised whole heartily singer Saada Ali Warsame and believed boosting up rumours saying that Saada is brave singer who sang the famous “Land cruiser song” composed by Abdi Muhumud Amiin. It is true that in the troubled years of the 90s Saada was courageous and had sung anti regime songs, but she later changed her struggle to become tribal minded. Traditionally, Somalis are ardent supporters to their tribe rightly or wrongly, and Saada was one of them despite her fame, talent, & sweet voice. Saada unfortunately played her role in the civil war and supported her tribe particularly the battle of ‘Kalshaale’ between the Garaad clan and HJ tribes. Currently she composed new song “dhiigshiil hadhigan = don’t deposit your savings in Dahabshiil” in order to destroy Dahbshiil’s reputations as a Company, owned by HJ businessmen, please see the below link:

[oba hiloowlow]

Xaaji wether he is Sahal or HAG is irrelevant, I think mr Aroma made good points backed with reliable sources.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

I know his father his father was a great intellectual and scholar and wrote many books about Somalis and their history.

[oba hiloowlow]

The question is, is Xiin ready to admit this and how is reconcilliation suppose to happen when many pieces of what really happened is blacked-out?

[Somalia]

The WHOLE WORLD knows what happened...

 

It's called Black Hawk Down, starvation, genocide and death. We saw the movie guys, we saw it.

[oba hiloowlow]

but somalia there is a tape where morgan is admitting that his group are behind the man made famine in Baay &Bakool how do you explain that tho.

[Che -Guevara]

Incoherent rumbling-wish he had take time to better formulate his argument. He's all over the place.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

even worse his accusing someone of being biased and is doing the something himself

[Safferz]

Interesting how an article that tries to critique Professor Kapteijns for uncritically repeating the clannish narratives of her Somali informants can be so... clannish.

[Taleexi]

Every clan is a victim and victimizer. Mr. Aroma penned some valid points and some biased ones. At his age and knowledge one would expect that he should be fair, oh well, we somalis after all and clan remains to be our faith and the litmus test of what is right or wrong.

[Wadani]

Just look at all the posts above. Every single person, except Taleexi, gave an opinion that is in line with the narrative endorsed by their respective clans. SMDH.

[Safferz]

Wadani;931634 wrote:

Just look at all the posts above. Every single person, except Taleexi, gave an opinion that is in line with the narrative endorsed by their respective clans. SMDH.

I don't know how you've managed to come to that conclusion. None of us can think or formulate opinions outside of a clan framework? You don't think that's insulting?