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The Call for Somalia and Somaliland Talks

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Jacaylbaro;798146 wrote:
Yes, Siilaanyo knows the nations are created by people .... so he just did it
:D

But nobody bothers to recognize it, and that's what invalidates the *nation* term.

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Jacaylbaro;798190 wrote:
We are not talking about recognition here ,, unless u wana change the subject
:D

I'm talking about the word *nation*, and nation has something to do with recognition.

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Jacaylbaro;798202 wrote:
Do you even understand ??

But that doesn't prove his claim for two nations. We can talk all day, we can paste large junk of twisted maps, but the thing that works by the end of the day, is whether the claim is genuine or is just another Nigerian-money-offer.

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Taleexi;798059 wrote:
We all know SL is a clan state but it will come to the discussion table as such. Running away from what someone is is classical complex inferiority. Khaatumo is unstoppable give her its way.

miskinkaaan khatumo ka yimid iska daya...walalayal...hahaha...

 

Taleexi, a question posed to shiek dalxis doesnt make you a state saxib, you have no presence and clearly buhoodle doesnt count as a regional authority, furthermore as the world is concerned it clearly distinguished Somaliland and Somalia as two seperate entities that need to discuss their future. this will be done under international watch..so both will put their cases forward to each other in front of the world. Seeing that hell will freeze over before the TFG has any real control over southern Somalia, and its term is about to expire and democracy is no where in sight as daily insecurity is everywhere in Somalia even the pirates den up north...You have no chance saxib...Somaliland is gone. :cool:

 

but although sheko khatumo waxba ka ma chiran...Somaliland is your country so feel welcome.

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Freedom;798218 wrote:
The wing I have for you is why do care for region that does not want to do anything with Somalia lool

because saxib they are nothing without Somaliland thats the honoust answer, therefore they cant afford to let you go...a body without its head is just a corpse. Somalia has been a corpse for 20 years, because of the lack of Somaliland. even though they need you they will never tell you we need you please....

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The Hermet;798224 wrote:
because saxib they are nothing without Somaliland thats the honoust answer, therefore they cant afford to let you go...a body without its head is just a corpse. Somalia has been a corpse for 20 years, because of the lack of Somaliland. even though they need you they will never tell you we need you please....

Yes. We are Somalis and we're nothing without Woqooyi Galbeed. Even we have plans for Soomaali Galbeed and NFD in future.

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Duufaan   

Who will talk who? There is ntohting call somalia and somaliland. if you put, your faith on this, you must be big loser and will be dissapointed. How hard you tried, in end of day somaliland=SNM.

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Oodweyne   

Well, I do not know about you guys; but, I really like this Mr. Osman chap of the "Khatumo-Seeg" farce. For, he is a standing specimen of how not to argue with others; particularly, if all you have, is nonsense-on-stilts, indeed.. :D

 

And, by that, I mean, instead of going out of his way in building nonsensical supposition on top of another jaw-dropping presupposition so that he could explain as to why Somaliland will not be sitting in front of Somalia, in-order for them to "clarify" their future relation; he could of simply asked someone to read to him the meaning of the ambiguous diplomatic talk in which the "article six" of that "London Conference" have articulated it, indeed.

 

And, if he were to have done that, then, in here he would of seen it that the international community are no more interesting to entertained the idea that says Somalia has the key to Somaliland's wishes; given, that they have said it, that both parties must agree their future destiny, without no party being a position to dictate to the other in-terms of the outcome.

 

Furthermore, knowing, that this sort of talk, will eventually hinge on the "facts-on-the-ground" (in the sense of who has the land under it's jurisdiction), then, he could of seen it, that this sort of bilateral talk between Somalia and Somaliland is a way in which Somalia could be coming off the tree that says they are the sovereign power of Somaliland.

 

Since, sovereignty, in the final definition rest on the reality on the ground; and, in here, we know, the reality of the ground says, Somaliland is sovereign with facts and boots on the ground over the territories it claims; whilst, on the other hand, Somalia, has no facts or even mere passing flimsy authority over any scintilla of a meter in anywhere of the territories of Somaliland .

 

Consequently, this is a well understood diplomatic road in which states that are separating (due to the facts and the reality on the ground) must travel on; so that, each party will in the end be forced to accept the reality on the ground.

 

All in all; I do understand, that, the likes of Mr. Osman of "Khatumo-Seeg" farce, may have difficulty in accepting that the world, had finally cottoned on to the reality of the Somali peninsula; (which may in turn account for his need to create his own fiction to warm himself up with); but, in all honesty, he really, shouldn't have went of his way to insult the intelligence of his readers, in this manner, indeed... :D :D

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The Hermet;798224 wrote:
because saxib they are nothing without Somaliland thats the honoust answer, therefore they cant afford to let you go...a body without its head is just a corpse. Somalia has been a corpse for 20 years, because of the lack of Somaliland. even though they need you they will never tell you we need you please....

True..but ask yourself why only one group talks greater somalia round the clock..have you seen Mogadishu,Baidabo,Kismayo,Beletweyne,S. Galkacayo etc whining day in day out..?These fake unionists make thmslvs important by printing false enlarged maps with rediculously inflated populations.Oil maps they throw every where is the same ...enlarged areas & some in otha regions deleted under the banner of fictitious companies or real ones they using their logo, so they can convince us they have the largest deposits, when the fact is SL has the largest oil & natural gas concentrated in africa followed by lower juba & PL...all of these to control people into brainwashing, a game that has worked for them in the past.I used to think Nigerians are the crooks but these r by far the worst.

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