The Limits of Vuvuzela Genocide

[Carafaat]

Dabrow;745339 wrote:

Bro what kinda of reality do you live in?

Somali people in O oppose Ethiopia thats why they are still fighting and will fight.

You are under the influence of xabashi propaganda.

 

Read this wikileak and ask why Tigray are accusing USA for supporting ONLF. Their frustration is ovious.

If you think 200 soldier can do this you are not driven by logic.

Sure bro, thats why O people betray hem everywhere where they go. How many cities, villages and territory did the ONLF capture?

How many of the turned out to be Ethiopian informants? How many work for the Somali region and Ethiopian authorities. How many have of them have been handed over by the tolka(Puntland) to the Ethiopians.

 

Abtigies, wuxu Somaliland ugu ooyiyaa. tolkii ayaa ku noqday wax aan la isku haleen kareen.

[Carafaat]

N.O.R.F;745371 wrote:

Finally, those who hang on to this one argument are missing the boat as far as I’m concerned. I have said this many times on here. You’re inviting Somaliland back to the crumbling house I mentioned earlier. At least put the roof on!

Touché.

 

 

Even the ONLF wants independance rather then joining Somalia. why not tell them its better to join Somalia.

[Abtigiis]

Whether the sole basis for the formation of Puntland was to counter Somaliland is a matter I cannot confirm or deny. There are more knowledgeable and informed people in this forum to discuss this. I, however, know that the Puntland masses have at all times wrapped themselves in undiluted Somalinimo, by word and by deed. It is a fact they have been cursed with poor leadership, but they have never dreamed of dismembering Somalia. Forget Faroole's foolish rants. Afterall, he is the guy who says people like me are not Somalis. Our terminologies often predetermine our thinking. One thing that is indicative of the parochial nature of your somalinimo is that you first take yourself as a Somalilander and secondly as a Somali. Therefore, you want the Somali's to put a roof on 'their' house, which means you don't think it is your duty to do so as well. This is a clear manifestation of your fiefdom mentality. Think big and aim higher. The shame of a Somalia is your shame, but of course that is only if you are a Somali nationalist. Instead, if you are a rer-hebel first, then the sheep market argument of ' first get your house in order' is justified. To summarize the core arguments:

 

1) Are you saying Somaliland will be ready to join the rest once the south solves its problems? If so, there is no need to argue over this. I agree. And it is a sensible decision. But I know, this argument is only put foward as a tactic never as a belief.

 

2) Is Ngonge saying the victors write history? No argument here, although the whinning from Somaliland shows the victory is not complete. It will be so when recognition finally arrives. But at least, the hollowness of the victim-playing game is exposed here, and I have adequately shown that Somalilanders share the art of feigning injury with Barcelona.

 

Of course, I will not take the bait of ONLF from Carafaat. Let him open a seprate thread for that. There is no need to engage in side ambushes. But it suffices to say his modus operandi is that of tea-shop politicians with the unmistakeable trait of mindi mindi ku taag.

[Carafaat]

Abtigiis;745387 wrote:

Of course, I will not take the bait of ONLF from Carafaat. Let him open a seprate thread for that. There is no need to engage in side ambushes. But it suffices to say his modus operandi is that of tea-shop politicians with the unmistakeable trait of

mindi mindi ku taag.

Abtigiis, its only fair that you ask the ONLF of what you are asking of Somaliland (denouncing independance and joining Somalia).

 

I wont compare the suffering of people and the atrocities and war crimes committed by the ONLF and by the Ethiopians. Eventhaught you compared those committed against people in Somalia back in the '80 and '90 by SNM and Somali army. that would be real mindi mindi ku taag, dont you think?

[N.O.R.F]

A&T

 

Nice side step. Ronaldhino-esk. As you were......

 

A Khadar, I will address your points after today’s games

[SomaliNationalist]

The blessed socialist government had an obligation to defend our country from armed traitors aka SNM Qudhmis, the SNM cowards was hiding behind women and children, they are alone responsible for the dead civilians. May Allah bless General Morgan and Vicepresident Ali Samatar for destroying the tratiors. The Qudhmis are today commiting the same war crimes and displacement aganist the people of SSC which they accuses Siyad Barre did towords them. In the end Somaliland will get destroyed and our beloved Somalia united.

[Jacaylbaro]

Somaliland destroyed and Somalia United xagay isaga yimaadaan bal ?? ,,,

[SomaliNationalist]

The SNM adminstration will get destroyed, not the people.

 

Do you think the video will make me cry? should I feel sorry for tratiors? the people who betrayed their country? the agents of Mengistu? the only genocide which happend in somalia was the one USC lead by lunatic Aiideed commited aganist civilians from Galkayo to Kismayio.

[Carafaat]

Jacaylbaro;745403 wrote:

Somaliland destroyed and Somalia United xagay isaga yimaadaan bal ?? ,,,

ha la yaabin dad badan ayaa caqligoodu meesha gaarsiiyaaa.

[Jacaylbaro]

Kuwaasaa in lala midoobo raba ,,,,

 

Waa caqliga A&T iyo asxaabtiisa oo kele ,,,, marna bacaac daa ha guro hadhowna isagoo leh walaalihiina Soomaaliyeed ee Gunna Gado ka naxa uun baad arki doontaa

[Abtigiis]

For the record, I distance myself from any deragatory labels against SNM. My beef is with SNM's preoccupation with vengence and its treasonous tendencies, not against their struggle per se.

 

And let me tell Norf and co. that I believe the somaliland label is very-well defined georaphically and conceptually. It represents a certain clan, not all those fall within the claimed territory. Charity begins at home, and those who decry coercive unification must first respect this principle when it comes to rights of the SSC, Awdal, Salal, and the sizeable Gabooye populations in Somaliland.

[SomaliNationalist]

If you guys don't stop this silly somaliland indepedent talk, wallahi I promise you that a future somali government will do things which makes what happend in 1988 a holiday.

[Carafaat]

Abtigiis;745409 wrote:

For the record, I distance myself from any deragatory labels against SNM. My beef is with the SNM's miscalculations and treasonous tendencies,

not against their struggle per se.

Havent you fought against their struggle? Atleast admit it.

[Abtigiis]

Somali nationalist,

 

I concede the attitudes of carafaat and some of the extremist elements of reer-aqoonsi-doon can boil one's blood. But I caution you against issuing threats that only serve to vindicate the fears of the doomsday prophets in Somaliland. If all the clan decide to leave somalia, may God make the road easy for them. But they will take only what is theirs and live with the consequence. They can't pilfer land from unionist clans. Simple, nude logic.

 

Carafaat,

 

No. I didn't fight against SNM. I wished them good luck when they were freedom-fighters. Once they turned into freedom-fighters who don't know about freedom, I started opposing them. There was nothing wrong with them resisting oppression, but the atavistic clannish mindset of this clan needs to be confronted vehemently.

[Jacaylbaro]

Charity begins at home, and those who decry coercive unification must first respect this principle when it comes to rights of the SSC, Awdal, Salal, and the sizeable Gabooye populations in Somaliland.

That card has been used by the old man and his advisors ... It failed miserably.

 

Try another one niyow. U can't repeat the same old card expecting new results.