me Posted July 10, 2007 ^History check! The same tactics where used by the British in the wars against the daraawiish. posisoning wells, killing life stock, burning villages etc etc. genocides of similar scales as Baydhabo have happened in Somalia before. 3 out of 5 Northerners got killed in those wars. These tactics were not new to Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 On the news: The SNF Militia numbering in thousands assaulted the border town of Elwaq early morning on April 18, 2005. According to news from Elwaq the fighting, was a continuation of last week's clashes when the SNF Militia attempted to dislodge the Garre's out of their town. The SNF Militia who were heavily armed used battle wagon (technical) they attacked EL Waq town from three directions. However, they encountered small but determined Garre worriers who expected the onslaught. According to local Garre commander, 30 Marrihaan militias were killed and many more were wounded, while only one Garre Worriers was sustained minor injuries. The ******* are using minor children as militias and unfortunately, most of the dead and wounded the so called "**** MILITIAS" on April 09, and April 18, 2005, were those untrained, and under age orphaned or fatherless children. The ******* clans have failed both militarly as well as politically. 1. they used the name " **** MILITIAS" to get support from all ***** group, but it back fired on them. 2. they have used name as "DEFENDERS OF GEDO MILITIAS " So, far this too has not worked for them. 3. they have said it was the Oromo militias who invaded EL Waq, in order to get sympathy from Ethiopia, but that too has not worked in their favor. Still the Garre militias are in control of EL WAQ contrary to reports by Gedonet online report. According to an eyewitness report from EL Waq, Col. Yussuf Mohamed Abdulqadir (kanti)'s Militias have been defeated. our reporter said that Mr. Abdulqadir's persistent tribal sentiment is fanning undue tribal animosity besides causing fear and despondency among peace loving people who had co-existed in harmony for ages. His actions are cowardly and UN Somali like for him to keep creating animosity among good people of the province. This man is the same criminal who was behind the massacre in El Golicha slaughtering Garre women and children as youngest as twenty days old. We call on Mr. Yussuf the President of Somalia to stern action against this criminal he is an Al itihad inciter. The man is well known terrorist. In the past thirteen years, he has killed many believers, and also, ordered the killing of many more innocent Somalis including those under age children he is using now as soldiers. therefore, he must be prosecuted and face justice for what he has done. Source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 me, we are not British mate, sorry we are Somali. In the long Somali civil war for the last decade and half, militia's of different clans and groups fought fiecely but none had used these tactics, even worse against kids and maato masaakiin ah, those not intending to fight why would you starve them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garyaqaan2 Posted July 10, 2007 ^^^^ EMP. SXB DADKA QAARKII WAAD KUWAREEYREESAA. MEESHAAN WAXAA LAGA HADLAAYAA. 500 OOKUN OO QOFOOD OO KU NAFWAAYSAY. BIADHABO. DADKA QAARKIISA WAXEEY KU WAR WAREEGSANAAYAAN KISMAAYO. LOL AMEZING. AWAL BAAN WAXAAN MAQLI JIRAY MARKII KOOONFUR LOOHEESO AYEEY DOQONTO BARI U HEESTAA. MARKA IT IS ALL ABOUT TIME EVERYONE KNOWS KISMAYO ISSUE WILL BE DELT IN TIMILY MANNER. KNOW LET ME STAY WITH THE TOPIC WAXII KA DHACAY JUBOOYINGKA WAA WAX AAN LAYS KAGA HAREE. MABA ARK0 WAXAAD UU GU JAWAABTO REER WAQOOYILAND. MAXAA YEELAY WAA DADKA KU DOODA WAANA LA XASUUQAY MARKA SXB JACEELBARO HADEEY JAWAABTIISA NOQTAY SIDAAN I Quote {They did it in Somaliland and destroyed cities, they were chased and once they step foot on Somalia that is what they have done to the poor civilians} and this Miskiin ,,,, Sorry i can't join horrors ,,,, that is why i left and you still eating your babies ,,,,,,,,,, For me you are the same ,,, i don't give a shyyyyyyyytt about any name you come up with ,, malaha waxeey dhibeeysaa inla yiraahdo reer waqooyi land waxaa jirta qola kale oo la xasuuqay sidiina oo kale. oo waxaay u heestaa in iyaga kaliya dhibtu soo gaartay alayaa raxma. freindly advice for emp. sxb weel duleela hadaad wax kushubto ma celiyaan baan u gartay. marka dadka qaarkood ma arkaan su aasha aad weeydiisay oo waxaa kala weey waxa maskaxdiisa kadhax guuxaayo. for exsample. I have no idea if this help any at all to the topic. Originally posted by Kashafa: Emperor, Good try, man. At least you gave a response, but dodged(maybe unintentionally) my main point(s). Let me try to put it in literal far waa weyn. a) How does one reconcile his selective memory and 'humanitarian' concern for the genocide and massacres that took place in the early 90's with his full and unequivocal support for the a) massacres committed by his clan members(Cousin Morgan & Hargeisa, as an example) b)the recent massacre of Mogadisho, c) the wholesale rape and occupation of an entire gobol of Somalia(Somali Galbeed) by our 'guests and allies who came to rescue us at hour of need'? b) Ato, Ali Mahdi, Suudi, M.Dheere, Qanyare, Qeybdiid, among others, were the architects and leaders of the USC's murderous rampage across Somalia. They are now high-ranking members and/or allies of the entity you support. How does one support, defend, protect, and reward such men with a straight face, and then in the same logic-defying breath condemn the crimes they have committed. Could it be that they are now useful to 'the cause' ? c) I hate to use the term, but um, the term 'political whore' signifies somebody who will do anything to further their political agenda. Things like posting two threads which demonise(rightfully so) the actions of two clan militia while at the same time excusing, not even that, but fully supporting the genocide, war crimes, occupation, and oppression going on in the rest of Somalia, not 15 years ago........but hada, right now, primarily because Adeer(and by extension 'anaka') are benefiting from all the mayhem being commited in the name of 'dawladnimo'. Sorry, sxb. That's just an open-and-shut case of 'political whoredom',athigoo raali ah. well try again in biger font. it might help you understand what you wrote next time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 Originally posted by Garyaqaan: EMP. SXB DADKA QAARKII WAAD KUWAREEYREESAA. MEESHAAN WAXAA LAGA HADLAAYAA. 500 OOKUN OO QOFOOD OO KU NAFWAAYSAY. BIADHABO. DADKA QAARKIISA WAXEEY KU WAR WAREEGSANAAYAAN KISMAAYO. LOL AMEZING. AWAL BAAN WAXAAN MAQLI JIRAY MARKII KOOONFUR LOOHEESO AYEEY DOQONTO BARI U HEESTAA. MARKA IT IS ALL ABOUT TIME EVERYONE KNOWS KISMAYO ISSUE WILL BE DELT IN TIMILY MANNER. KNOW LET ME STAY WITH THE TOPIC Lol, Adeer waa runtaa waan ogahay oo jawaab mamudna laakiin hadaan loo jawaabinna waxay dhahayaan waad baqday ama waad dhanaanaysaa, marka waa inaan wax iska dhahnaa malaha waxeey dhibeeysaa inla yiraahdo reer waqooyi land waxaa jirta qola kale oo la xasuuqay sidiina oo kale. oo waxaay u heestaa in iyaga kaliya dhibtu soo gaartay alayaa raxma. Very well spot on brother, waad asiibtay waan kala baqbaqayay adiguse feerahadaad kasaartay, waa intaas wax kale umuu diidana dadka kale ee Somalida maskiinta labaabi'iyay in gooni laga dhigo... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted July 10, 2007 May be it is time i write in Somali ,,, my egrish sucks and that is why these guys don't understand me. Anigu kamaan hadal Somaliland iyo xasuuqeedii ,, iska ilooba taas waa laga soo gudbay waanuna tashanay hadii la rabo in laga hadlana si gaar ah baa looga hadli doonaa laakiin ma rabo inaan imika halkan ku calaacalo ama aan kaga sheekeeyo wixii dhacay. Xasuuqii ka dhacay gobollada Mudug iyo Nugaal iyo kii ka dhacay Somaliland waa arin ka duwan kan ka dhacay baydhabo. Aan u soo noqonno kan hadda laga sheekaynayo ee ka dhacay Baydhabo. Waxaan idiin sheegayaa in cidda xasuuqa geysatay anay ahayn dad cirka ka soo degey, aanay ahayn xabashi, aanay ahayn maraykan aanay ahayn carab, laakiin ay ahaayeen soomaali la yaqaano oo maanta aynu odhan karno waa hebel iyo hebel. Hadaan la is indho tirayn meesha waxa ka dhacay wax baniáadamnimada ka baxsan oo aan hore loogu arag dhaqanka soomaalida guud ahaan. Dad baa la xasuuqay oo xabbad lala dhacay, qaar baa gaajo u dhintay, qaarna cudurro ayaa laayay sababteedana dad soomaaliyeed uun baa lahayd. Idinku ama SNF ku sheega ama USC ku eedeeya laakiin anigu waxaan aaminsanahay inay soomaali yihiin magacay doonaanba ha huwanaadeene. In meeshaa xasuuq ka dhacay waa xaqiiqo jirta umana baahnin reports la soo ururiyo oo lagu caddeeyo wixii dhacay, hadaynaan indhaha is qabanayn qof waliba wuu og yahay intii meeshaas ku qudh beeshay iyo dadkii ku halaagsamay. Haddaba, Anigu waxaan hore u idhi (may be in a bad english) imikana aan leeyahay waa la yaqaanaa dadkii ka dambeeyay ee hogaamiyayaasha ahaa iyo kuwuu hawlgalladaas fuliyeyba. Waxa wax laga murugoodo ah in marka qof la magacaaboba ay qaar inaga mid ahi soo boodayaan si ay u difaacaan una sheegaan inaanuu isaga ahayn. khaladku wuu dhici karaa intuu doonaba ha leekaadee, laakiin waxa haboon inaynu qabyalada iska saarno oo marka la yidhaa caydiid baa waxaa sameeyay aan inta reerkiisa ahi odhan muu samayn ee ay ay taageeraan in cadaalada la hor keeno inkasta oo imika uu isagu dhintayba oo uu Ilahay hor taagan yahay. Marka la yidhaahdo Hiiraale ayaa waxaas geystey yaanay inta ay isku bahda yihiin difaac geline si hufan oo daacadi ku jirto ha loo lafaguro siduu u geystay meel cadna ha la iska taago. Hadii la isku tuurtuuro macanaheedu waxa weeyaan cidina may geysan, markaa dadka ma jin baa laayay ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted July 10, 2007 ^Yaa ka xanaajiyey cool JB. Usheeg ragga dambiilayaasha ineysan aheyn Somalileen. Just Kidding. Marka la yidhaahdo Hiiraale ayaa waxaas geystey yaanay inta ay isku bahda yihiin difaac geline si hufan oo daacadi ku jirto ha loo lafaguro siduu u geystay meel cadna ha la iska taago. Yaad u dan leedahay sxb. No instigation allowed on page 9. Emperor: Baydhabo has seen the worst side of the civil war. Instead of being at each other's throat, people should be focusing on the lessons learned and preventative measures so it never happens again, especially cities like Baydhabo, Marka and etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 ^I agree with you on that my brother, this thread is all about learning lessons from that genocide, to bring it to the attention of all SOLers, a historic event we must keep and remember. Originally posted by JB: Idinku ama SNF ku sheega ama USC ku eedeeya laakiin anigu waxaan aaminsanahay inay soomaali yihiin magacay doonaanba ha huwanaadeene. In meeshaa xasuuq ka dhacay waa xaqiiqo jirta umana baahnin reports la soo ururiyo oo lagu caddeeyo wixii dhacay, hadaynaan indhaha is qabanayn qof waliba wuu og yahay intii meeshaas ku qudh beeshay iyo dadkii ku halaagsamay. Sxb JB anaga oo dhan ayaa Somali ah, adiga ayaa Somali ah, SNMt-a aad noo amaantid ayaa Somali ah, kuwi labaabi'iyay ayaa Somali ah, Somali oo dhan ma wada khaldana ee waxaa khaldan wixi dhibtaas gaystay, hadana khaasatan Baydhabo xasuuqeedi ee ahaa kii ugu xumaa aan aragno kuwii sameeyay waxay ahaayeen SNF iyo USC/SNA - aniga ha iga qaadan tan ee kaqaado ha'yadaha Caalamiga ah iyo warbaahinta Caalamkaba, dhacdadii ugu xumeed Africa. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marka la yidhaahdo Hiiraale ayaa waxaas geystey yaanay inta ay isku bahda yihiin difaac geline si hufan oo daacadi ku jirto ha loo lafaguro siduu u geystay meel cadna ha la iska taago. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yaad u dan leedahay sxb. No instigation allowed on page 9. Lol, wixii difaacaaya nimankii gaystay dhibaataas waa u ceeb iyo arxan darro, waxa ay danbiyo kagalayaan dadka xasuuqa loo gaystay, beerahoodii lagubay barakicinta ba'an ee asal iyo gumudba loogu sameeyay, figer point-ka meel hala iska dhigo, topic-ga wuxuu kusaabsanyahay Baidoa iyo xii kadhacay iyo maxaan karan karnaa, nimankii sameeyay waa lasheegayaa kuwii biyaha wabiga shabelle kagadaayay maskiinta hadii kale caqashado iyo oon udilaayay waa lasheegayaa, kaliya ma ahan in iyaga laceebaynaayo ee maskiinta dhibtaas lagula kacanyna waa in loo ogadaa (mase tan ayaad diidantahay JB) magdhawna laga siiyaa ama kuwii danbiyad arrxan darrada ee kabaxsan dhaqan Somalida gaystay in Maxkamad lasoo taago mustaqbalka dhaw. Kolay JB awoowe isfahanay, xumaan kale mawadid nimankaasna difaaci maysid, laakiin malaha meel kalaad ka diriraysaa joking Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 The report: Soldiers from the all over World arrive in Somalia, to prevent and stop the killer tactic used by once the most armed and powerful Somali militia gangs against the people of Bay, Bakool and the Shabelle, the death rate was beyond reason and the scene became a magnet for international news broadcasting agencies... Soldiers from the globe seen instantly in Somalia... Italian soldier on the streets of Somalia... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted July 10, 2007 Originally posted by Emperor: ^I agree with you on that my brother, this thread is all about learning lessons from that genocide, to bring it to the attention of all SOLers, a historic event we must keep and remember. quote: Originally posted by JB: Idinku ama SNF ku sheega ama USC ku eedeeya laakiin anigu waxaan aaminsanahay inay soomaali yihiin magacay doonaanba ha huwanaadeene. In meeshaa xasuuq ka dhacay waa xaqiiqo jirta umana baahnin reports la soo ururiyo oo lagu caddeeyo wixii dhacay, hadaynaan indhaha is qabanayn qof waliba wuu og yahay intii meeshaas ku qudh beeshay iyo dadkii ku halaagsamay. Sxb JB anaga oo dhan ayaa Somali ah, adiga ayaa Somali ah, SNMt-a aad noo amaantid ayaa Somali ah, kuwi labaabi'iyay ayaa Somali ah, Somali oo dhan ma wada khaldana ee waxaa khaldan wixi dhibtaas gaystay, hadana khaasatan Baydhabo xasuuqeedi ee ahaa kii ugu xumaa aan aragno kuwii sameeyay waxay ahaayeen SNF iyo USC/SNA - aniga ha iga qaadan tan ee kaqaado ha'yadaha Caalamiga ah iyo warbaahinta Caalamkaba, dhacdadii ugu xumeed Africa. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marka la yidhaahdo Hiiraale ayaa waxaas geystey yaanay inta ay isku bahda yihiin difaac geline si hufan oo daacadi ku jirto ha loo lafaguro siduu u geystay meel cadna ha la iska taago. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yaad u dan leedahay sxb. No instigation allowed on page 9. Lol, wixii difaacaaya nimankii gaystay dhibaataas waa u ceeb iyo arxan darro, waxa ay danbiyo kagalayaan dadka xasuuqa loo gaystay, beerahoodii lagubay barakicinta ba'an ee asal iyo gumudba loogu sameeyay, figer point-ka meel hala iska dhigo, topic-ga wuxuu kusaabsanyahay Baidoa iyo xii kadhacay iyo maxaan karan karnaa, nimankii sameeyay waa lasheegayaa kuwii biyaha wabiga shabelle kagadaayay maskiinta hadii kale caqashado iyo oon udilaayay waa lasheegayaa, kaliya ma ahan in iyaga laceebaynaayo ee maskiinta dhibtaas lagula kacanyna waa in loo ogadaa (mase tan ayaad diidantahay JB) magdhawna laga siiyaa ama kuwii danbiyad arrxan darrada ee kabaxsan dhaqan Somalida gaystay in Maxkamad lasoo taago mustaqbalka dhaw. Kolay JB awoowe isfahanay, xumaan kale mawadid nimankaasna difaaci maysid, laakiin malaha meel kalaad ka diriraysaa joking loooool , maya sxb anigu meelna kama dirirsani SNM na hadaan amaanay iyo hadii kele kolay khalad kama madhna oo waa baniáadam waanan ku faraxsanahay in cadaalada la hor keeno wixii iyaga ka mid ah ee xasuuq geystay. Waxaanse ka xanaaqaa marka sheekadu qabyaalad isu rogto ee iyada oo la arkayo wixii meesha ka dhacay hadana nin waliba isku dayo inuu adeerkii difaaco sheekaduna ay noqoto qabyaalad dhab ah. SSDF, SNM, USC, SNF, TFG, ETC. cid kasta oo xasuuq geysatay waa in lala xisaabtamo cidii meel ku abtirsataana waa inay cadaalada ku addinto oo aanay qofna ku difaacin wixii uu sameeyay. Suáashu waxay tahay, YAA LA XISAABTAMAYA EE CADAALADA HOR KEENAYA DADKAAS COZ ALMOST EVERYBODY WAA DAMBIILE IN SOMALIA ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 Countries that contributed to this humanitarian cause and thus took part in the operation: African Countries Arab Countries: Saudi Arabia Egypt Tunisia UAE Kuwait Jordan Morocco African Countries: Nigeria Botswana Zimbabwe European Countries: UK France Germany Italy Sweden Norway Finland Austria Crezch Republic Greece Romania Ireland Asian Countries: Indonesia Malaysia Pakistan Turkey India Bangaladesh South Korea Fiji Nepal North American: United States of America Canada Australia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 Canadian Military in Somalia Egyptian Soldiers in Mogadishu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted July 10, 2007 is the guy in the middle listening to a music ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Emperor Posted July 10, 2007 ^Sure, he seems to be ejoying the music.... of the gun shots. Nigerian Soldier in Somalia American with a Somali Child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted July 10, 2007 Duke the SNF also occupied did what can be construed as an "occupation" of Gaalkacyo after the ouster of the USC. Why is this history being hidden or should I bring the articles from the early 90s? If you will dedicate a topic to the SNF exploit, you might as well do its legacy justice. Horn, what on earth has gotten into you my old comrade in arms. What a joke, you should try stand up comedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
