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Ghelleh, Bixi, Dini...What is going on? Farmaajo, Cagjar too

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Does anyone in the SOL Empire has any idea?

The last interaction among Somalis in HoA was:

Farmaajo asked Ghelleh to help in dealing with Bixi.
Ghelleh asked Farmaajo two questions: 1. What is the agenda 2. What is the expected outcome.
Farmaajo had no answers to these questions or he could not share them with Ghelleh.
Ghelleh told Bixi that he could not invite two Somalis without an agenda and without a purpose. Case closed.


Now Bixi informed Ghelleh the secrets and purpose of the whole exercise and Dini was called immediately.

Does UAE or Abiy has some sinister plan that affects Puntland and Farmaajo is looking for Somaliland's help?

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Dhaqaale   

No. There will be civil war in Somaliland if things don't improve soon (i.e U.N statehood). You may say that is impossible because of the "tight control" one clan has over the rest of the other clans (all clans are equally armed btw). UCID party (Mr Warabe) was the candidate for the last 17 years! and Wadani a party that styles itself after the liberal democrats here in the UK (they even have the same party colours lol), have not had a president only UDUB and Kulmiye (The same sub clan) had a president. Somaliland will experience small intensive conflict and then slip into full blown civil war between the various clan houses like in 1994-1995.

Remember also this, Ghelleh is close to Somalilanders in terms of kinship than other Somali "controlled" territories. And he has not given Somaliland U.N statehood (Djibouti is a U.N member) what does that tell you about the case of Somaliland statehood? An inside joke. The implosion is coming, too much poverty too many lies... the house of cards will fall.

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That's just wishful thinking  somalilanders are the most civilised somalis. And would never fight over politics we have elections every few years. And we keep the bond between brothers strong. We have strong army and police to keep every one in check.  The big middle clan of somaliland is the most united clan in the horn of Africa. And their peace xeer ciidi magaadhi karto  all conflict between somalilanders was solved by our elders. And its very unlikely that there will be a conflict. 

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Dhaqaale   

If things do not improve soon, matters will take a turn for the worse. Remember Somalis in the south were once "civilized" and had strong bonds too (talk to them about how they use to inter-marry), had a better economy and fertile farming land. They were happy with great potential, a carefree life...no worries. But look at them today...bonds can be broken. 

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Oodweyne   
6 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

That's just wishful thinking  somalilanders are the most civilised somalis. And would never fight over politics we have elections every few years. And we keep the bond between brothers strong. We have strong army and police to keep every one in check.  The big middle clan of somaliland is the most united clan in the horn of Africa. And their peace xeer ciidi magaadhi karto  all conflict between somalilanders was solved by our elders. And its very unlikely that there will be a conflict

Xaaji,

There is an old English proverb that says: "The Wish is the Father to the Thought" (or words to that effect). Which basically means, someone's wishful thinking leads him to construct all kind of labyrinth rationale of why what he wishes to see happen is the actual reality that will come to pass.

Hence, this silly waffler talking about nonsense about Somaliland crumbling internally or having some form of civil war in the future is basically given vent to his wishful thinking. And from that wretched position, he seems to have constructing a fictitious case that will proof to him as to why that there will be a civil war in Somaliland.

So in my experience the best thing to do is to shake ones's head once you read such baseless argument and then proceed to put him down as a member of the usual clownish wafflers in here of SOL who wishes to comment about Somaliland and its internal affairs without having the first freaking clue about it. And in particularly in-terms of what the place is about, and what the folks who actually had build it from scratch were all about yesterdays and also what they are about in today's reality.

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Oodweyne   

Old_Observer,

Mr IOG is cooking a political counter-plan to Mr Farmaajo's agenda of winning second term, with the help of Mr Abby Ahmed (with boots on the ground) and with money from Qatar to buy up MPs to vote for him. Moreover, Mr IOG knows that Mr Farmaajo is essentially in the camp of Mr Abby Ahmed and Mr Afwerki, whereby Djibouti may be casualty from any deal Somalia-Ethiopia-Eritrea reach within IGAD.

Hence, election is in the offing in Somalia next year, so Mr IOG is trying to be "king-maker" for the opposition groups to N&N clique in Villa Somalia. Which means, Mr Deni was first to be called to Djibouti. Expect others, like former Presidents like Mr Sheikh Sharif and Mr Hassan Sheikh Mahamoud (HSM) to next visit Djibouti.

And the basic reason is that the "Don of Djibouti", namely Mr IOG wishes to see if he can "mesh" together all of the opposition groups into a whole connected slate and platform that will oppose the re-election bid of Mr Farmaajo and his N&N party. Particularly if these disparate opposition groups in Somalia can be made to "coalesce" into some form "effective opposition" in one way or another. This is Mr IOG latest political game in the Somali peninsula.   

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Dhaqaale   
35 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

Xaaji,

There is an old English proverb that says: "That the wish is the father to the thought" (or words to that effect). Which means, someone's wishful thinking leads him to construct all kind of labyrinth rationale of why what he wishes to see happen is the actual reality that will come to pass.

Hence, this silly waffler talking about nonsense about Somaliland crumbling internally or having some form of civil war in the future is basically given vent to his wishful thinking. And from that wretched position, he seems to be constructing the case that there will be a civil war in Somaliland.

So in my experience the best thing to do is to shake ones's head once you read such baseless argument and then proceed to put him down as the usual wafflers in here of SOL who wishes to comment about Soamiland and its affairs without having the first freaking clue about it, particularly in-terms of what the place is about and what the folks who actually had build it from scratch were about yesterdays and also are about in today's reality.

If its wishful thinking then why don't you live in Somaliland full time? Why do you live in London (surrounded by english civilization of 800 years) with your family and only visit Somaliland for holiday? Why is the kid Suldaanka living in Australia and not Somaliland? I will tell you why, it is because of the destitution and lack of real opportunity and fairness. Even Xaaji lives in England and not Somaliland. You cannot live and work full time in Somaliland (I know this because, I have seen it) because of the insufficiency in meeting basic needs of the people. My assessment is based on measurable metrics and guided by the logic "poverty is not unity" in the long run will be proven right. However, you seem content with formulated your arguments with clan kinship and propaganda like some East German stasi unit. It did not work for the communist then and it is not going to work for you now. In the end you are going to have to face the music or trouble will come.

You maybe able to kid with others on here about your "state" but I have seen it in action and I am not impressed one bit. 

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On 2/20/2020 at 7:13 AM, Oodweyne said:

Old_Observer,

Mr IOG is cooking a political counter-plan to Mr Farmaajo's agenda of winning second term, with the help of Mr Abby Ahmed (with boots on the ground) and with money from Qatar to buy up MPs to vote for him. Moreover, Mr IOG knows that Mr Farmaajo is essentially in the camp of Mr Abby Ahmed and Mr Afwerki, whereby Djibouti may be casualty from any deal Somalia-Ethiopia-Eritrea reach within IGAD.

Hence, election is in the offing in Somalia next year, so Mr IOG is trying to be "king-maker" for the opposition groups to N&N clique in Villa Somalia. Which means, Mr Deni was first to be called to Djibouti. Expect others, like former Presidents like Mr Sheikh Sharif and Mr Hassan Sheikh Mahamoud (HSM) to next visit Djibouti.

And the basic reason is that the "Don of Djibouti", namely Mr IOG wishes to see if he can "mesh" together all of the opposition groups into a whole connected slate and platform that will oppose the re-election bid of Mr Farmaajo and his N&N party. Particularly if these disparate opposition groups in Somalia can be made to "coalesce" into some form "effective opposition" in one way or another. This is Mr IOG latest political game in the Somali peninsula.   

Don't you think Farmaajo has it coming? Don't forget Farmaajo went to Asmara while Asmara is holding Djiboutians in prison and also threatening the border.

Even after returning from Asmara, Farmaajo did not go to Djibouti until the Ethiopians have made 3 trips and Eritrea contacted Somaliland and Djibouti. He completely embarassed every Somali.

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