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Somalia secures debt relief- Congresswoman Ilhan Omar

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Mourad1   

It is not much. However, the process will open up funds so that the gov't can pursue policies with certain autonomy from the international community. 

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Holac   

It won't do much for the average Somali. All it does is allow Somalia's corrupt government to borrow more money so that corrupt politicians can finally get very rich. 

It is a gimmick.

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20 minutes ago, Holac said:

It won't do much for the average Somali. All it does is allow Somalia's corrupt government to borrow more money so that corrupt politicians can finally get very rich. 

It is a gimmick.

So do you prefer the debt not be lifted?

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14 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Galbeedi,

Tillamook is a taxpayer. 

In any case, this offers Somalia an opportunity, the question is can Farmaajo and co take advantage of it for the sake and in service of the country.

I have doubts but wish them the best.

Dude, it’s got nothing to do with whether or not I is a tax payer. This is daylight theft. 
 

The Farmaajo administration, like the previous ones, seeks debt relief only because they want to borrow more funds in the name of Somalia, which hardly ever benefits the average Somali.

The so-called international community obliges then because they know for every dollar Farmaajo borrows on behalf of Somalia, they get to divert most it for themselves. This is a never ending cycle with no accountability, and more unfortunately, of no benefit to the average Somali.
 
 

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36 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

So do you prefer the debt not be lifted?

Yes.
Why clean the slate for unaccountable government to rack up more debt?!

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gooni   

Corruption waxaan nebcahay markaysan beeshaydu waxba ka cunayn ama ina adeerkay, waa dhaqanka soomaalida xalaal iyo alle ka cabsi ugama jeedaan.

Waxaa kaloo la yaab leh in arasaaqad ilaahay gaal noogusoo dhiibay uu qaxooti walaalkeen ah naga xigsado iskuna sheego inuu taxpayer yahay oo aanu afrikaanku istaahilin.

Aduunka corruption waa ka jiraa dhamaantiis xataa UN dhexdiisa waa mushkilad la wada ogsoon yahay oo aan wax ka qabad lahayn.

Dawlad markii lagu abaal marinayo corruption la'aan macnaheedu waxaa weeyaan may yaraysay kaliya, ee ma'ahan way dhamaysay.

Maxaa faa'iido ah oo noogu jira hadaba?
Aragtidayda waxaa kow noqonaysa inaan dad caadi ah oo bangiga dalkiisa wax u dirsan kara aan noqono

Waxaan ka xoroobaynaa nimankaan xawaaladaha oo guriga nagu xaraystay iyo bangiyadooda.

Waxaad tagtaa exchange ay ka buuxaan jinsayadaha aduunka oo dhan waxaadna waydiisaa shaqaalaheeda inuu lacag kuugu xawilo somaaliya

Ama waa isku qiimo kuwii guriga nagu xaraystay ama wuu kala yaabi markuu computer'ka dalkaaga ka waayo.

Waydii dadka kale oo kasoo jeeda dalalka kale inta 100$ loogu xawilo, isna barbar dhig inta aad adigu siiso wankaas cayilay.

Dr. Bayle muxuu kaga dawan yahay wasiirada kale?

Dr.bayle wuxuu dadka caadiga ah oo aqoonta badnayn sidaydoo kale famhamsiin karaa sida dhaqaaluhu u shaqeeyo, wuxuuna kaaga dhigi  si aad u fahamto adoo tukaan alaab kala duwan ka iibsaday oo la xisaabtamay cashier ama lacag qaadihii.

Inta nalagu leeyahay
Dulsaarka oo sodon sano socday, waxaa baaqiga ah dalalka iyo hay'adaha nagu leh waxaan ku qaadanay cidda bililaqaystay iwm.
 

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6 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

Farmaajo's deceased uncle took the previous loan and used it to enrich his clan.  Farmaajo is playing the same cards. loool

You confuse cronies with clans. It is like CM benefited from Abdiwali's tenure.

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gooni   
11 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

Farmaajo's deceased uncle took the previous loan and used it to enrich his clan.  Farmaajo is playing the same cards. loool

Farmaajo haduu dayn qaato ma naqaano wuxuu ku samayn lahaa, allahu aclam.

Siyaad barre dad duf ku baxay yuu wax ku taray abaalna lahayn.

Dayn cafintu sida aqoonyahanka soomaalidu u fahamtay ma'ahan.

Way iska caddahay inaan cidina waxba ka rabin, ama dulsaar lacageed, dad sodon sano macluul iyo bakhti kor fadhiyay.

Ujeedku dayn cafintu waa dad ma noqdeen sodon sano ka dib, mise maya, si mid kale loo siiyo, waa intaas waxa waraaqaha badan lagu qorayo.

Marnaba lagama yaabo inay kala gartaan maslaxadda guud iyo tan gaarka ah.

Cilmi baaris aan sameeyay anigoo aqoonyahan ka fogaanaya waxaa iisoo baxay.

Soomaalidu bini aadamka labo arimood bay uga egyihiin

Muuqaalka iyo
Hadalka

Duur joogtana labo arimood bay uga egyihiin

Caqliga iyo
Hijrada

Duur joogtu way haajirtaa markay haraad, gaajo iyo cabsi dareento.

Markay barwaaqo heshana way orgootaa, wayna is dishaa.

Hadaan been sheegay waad i sixi kartaan walaalahga soomaaliyeedow.

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18 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

Farmaajo's deceased uncle took the previous loan and used it to enrich his clan.  Farmaajo is playing the same cards. loool

I am the last person on SOL that would defend Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre considering how his regime immediately and literally affected my family in the very first day of his presidency. Having said that, you can accuse him anything but "enriching" his clan or himself.

He didn't develop nor built anything where his clan members supposed lived at. Look at Cabuudwaaq. Look at Garbahaareey. These two degmo are supposedly where his fellow clan members lived and they were and still remain the least developed towns.

Now compare that to other authoritarians of his time and after. Moi of Kenya comes to mind and how he developed his clan's town of Nakuru. Qadaafi of Liibiya as well and his clan's town of Sirte. So is the Tigrey Sanaawi and the Tigrey gobol.

Other dictators also had tendency to name places after themselves; put their faces on their currencies; built statues of themselves in and around of their major cities. Force books they wrote taught at all schools. And above all, haul little money the country had in Swiss banks. Siyaad did none of these, which he could have if he wanted.

In declining years of his regime, sure there were people in his family who were openly corrupt, including his step brother and his son, which he should have done something about that.

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Amigos   
7 minutes ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

I am the last person on SOL that would defend Jaalle Maxamed Siyaad Barre considering how his regime immediately and literally affected my family in the very first day of his presidency. Having said that, you can accuse him anything but "enriching" his clan or himself.

He didn't develop nor built anything where his clan members supposed lived at. Look at Cabuudwaaq. Look at Garbahaareey. These two degmo are supposedly where his fellow clan members lived and they were and still remain the least developed towns.

Now compare that to other authoritarians of his time and after. Moi of Kenya comes to mind and how he developed his clan's town of Nakuru. Qadaafi of Liibiya as well and his clan's town of Sirte. So is the Tigrey Sanaawi and the Tigrey gobol.

The wilful ignorance in this comment is off the charts!

Are you actually serious?!

Afweyne did not need to build up his clan hinterland for the simple reason that he shipped his clan members en mass to illegally experience the most lavish lifestyles in Mogadishu, the fertile regions, and other major cities. All Somalis know this, but you should not just take my word for it: 

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Other dictators also had tendency to name places after themselves; put their faces on their currencies; built statues of themselves in and around of their major cities. Force books they wrote taught at all schools. And above all, haul little money the country had in Swiss banks. Siyaad did none of these, which he could have if he wanted.

Are you living on the same planet as us? 

Afweyne was inescapable anywhere you go, his face was literally front and centre on every occasion, examples: 

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Front page of every single edition of Xidigta October starts with "tusaalooyinka Madaxweynaha":

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The cult of personality was very much everywhere. Even educational books published by Ministry of Education had to lionise and pay homage to "Jaale Siyaad":

 

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In declining years of his regime, sure there were people in his family who were openly corrupt, including his step brother and his son, which he should have done something about that.

It would be a massive understatement to name only his brother and son... corruption was on a scale never seen before in the Somali peninsula, here is a partial list: 

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3 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

  

Free for all family members. lol

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So, what would does have today with his clan? Much like any other, dictator, he employed his immediate family and cronies. It's called patronage. 

Every clan leader today of the many lands employs the same tactics. In fact, they learned from him. Let's stop  being hypocrites.

In any  case, tell me anyone who hasn't served kacaanka. Everyone began to badmouth him once  they fell out of favor with him.

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Dhaqaale   
12 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

So, what would does have today with his clan? Much like any other, dictator, he employed his immediate family and cronies. It's called patronage. 

The point is the Somali Republic was suppose to be a merit base society that would allowed people from all walks of life to rise and fulfill their potential. The darood decided to turn it into a patronage and then open warfare against the nonconformist.

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gooni   

Amigo wuxuu egyahay nin koomo kasoo kacay 30 sano ka dib.

Jawaabta u bixinayo iyo dhaliishana waatii sideetamaadkii dheriga lagu karin jiray.

War uma hayo in dhalin yaro badan badda kasoo caariday ayagoo mayd ah siyaad barre ka dib

War uma hayo in ingiriis cadde kala aqoonsan waayay somaali iyo firkooda.

Qof kastoo soomaali ah xaq buu lahaa inuu shaqo helo marka lagu daro kuwa madaxweynuhu dhalay

Dhinacaas waxba lagama eego huuno.

Siyaad barre dalkiisa iyo dadkiisa wuu ku filnaa taasna muran ma gasho.

Reer puntland waxay dhahaan dekedda iyo wadada waxaa saxiixay cabdirashiid sharmaake intuu dhaawaca ahaa geeridiisa ka hor.

Kuwo kale oo taariikhda si fiican u yaqaanana waxay ku doodaan inuu xafiiska sharmaake, talyaaniga u gudbiyay bil ka hor intuusan geeriyoon

Hargaysa ma ii sheegi hal mashruuc oo dad wax u taray oo snm qabatay biyo wado caafimaad waxbarasho iwm?

Waxaan tagay guriga maxkamadda waxba lagama badelin xataa kan waraaqaha garaacaya makiinadii siyaad ugu dhintay yuu weli wax ku garaacayaa.

Xataa guriga ay ku taliyaan waakii morgan dhistay.

Xataa hadii aad baarto BIIXi xafiiskiisa iyo inta ay wax usu yihiin 100 waaku dhawyihiin labo jufo yuuna madaxwene u yahay.

Ina adeer puntland iyo snm cidina waxba idinkaba rabto idinkaa aqoonsi iyo laaluush laydinku imtixaamay.

Waxaa kaliya oo laydinka rabaa inaad xisaabtantaan oo xaqa laydinku leeyahay iska gudaan. 

Marxuumku duco kaliya yuu xaq idinkugu leeyahay maalinta 21 October.
(من لا يشكر الناس لا يشكر الله)

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