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12 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

So, to assume a socialist and nationalist Somalia of nineteen seventies would promote and resurrect a pro Italian woman is illogical. 

Obviously, the Kacaan dressed her as a nationalist, when the actual history says otherwise. :D 

In any case, a person with shoddy history like this, should not have been afforded such prestigious status as being featured on currency notes and provided a statue. 

With regards to Ahmed Gurey, anigu ma maqal Oromo ayuu ahaa. Laakin inu reer Ifat (pre-Adal Islamic Administration of Saylac) ahaa war iskuma seegana. 

Laakin arinka Maxamed Cabdille Xassan, taa runta ayaa laga sheegaya. Qofkay runtu dhibayso, yeelkiisa. :D 

Taariikhda waa la saxayaa. 

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Is it me Suldaanka is defending or atleast justifing British colonialism?

And using the same language as Xaaji to describe British in the most favorable way.

What's this obsession with colonial powers?

 

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A liar I despise
A miser I despise
And a greedy gut who gobbles up what is not halal I despise
A tobacco-chewer I despise

A compulsive coward I despise

And a flabby fat fool I despise

A gûn goon I despise

A fool tool that isn’t tame I despise

A white man’s minion I despise

A honky’s houseboy I despise

An unjust king I despise

A flag without an army I despise

And above all

A city without the rule of law I do most definitely despise.

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gooni   

Xaawo taako kacaanku nama barin  ninkii qabay talyaani iyo jarmal ciduu ahaa qabiilkeeda, ilaa iyo hadana shakhsiyan ma"aqaan muhiimna ma"ahan

Balse waxaan bartaa dadkii soo halgamay markay snm mucaarado beesha ay kasoo jeedaan.

Waa hubaal inay snm juhdi badan ku bixiyeen xataa inay archive ingiriiska wax ka badelaan si ay u tirtiraan ama u xaqiraan taariikhdii soomaaliya si loo wada madoobaado, ama seamen iyo cook  loo wada noqdo.

Xawo taako waa gabar soomaaliyeed waxaana falaar naaska hoostiisa kaga dhuftay xaqiir u adeegayay gumaystaha.

Geerida quruxda badan laysuma ogola nolosha foosha xuna waa faan dunida maanta la joogo.
 

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Amigos   
5 hours ago, galbeedi said:

On a final note, Ahmed Gurey is not Oromo but member of Adal community. I know every Somali clan might claim , but those of us from Awdal know even his sub sub clan ' Abrayn' from Zatylac area. 

Old man, is this another thing your "secret sources" whispered in your ears? 😁

Never before have I seen anyone cram so much ignorance in his comments so effortlessly, you do have a talent. 

Back to reality, historically speaking there were two leaders named Ahmed that over the course of hundreds of years got amalgamated into a single heroic figure in Somali psyche; those were Imam Ahmed, a non-Somali walashma and Emir of muslims, and Ahmed Gurey, the leader of one of the most important factions during the Adal wars. 

With regards to Ahmed Gurey and his identity, the books are very clear about it, he belonged to the Duriya community. This is widely known amongst Somalis, which is why I find it bizarre for you to desperately stake your claim of him. And unlike your laughable "someone whispered into my ears" fantasies, I will provide the actual sources for what I state: 

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And if you are not satisfied, here is the original Futuh Al Habash text, clearly stating Ahmed Gurey's "Duriyadnimo": 

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The important role played by Duriyada community under leadership of their clansman Ahmed Gurey is widely available in academic research:

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You have no case old man. Trying to claim other people is beneath you as a Somali, be content with who your community produced, you can not claim other people's history, no matter how hard you try. 

 

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LOL 

M-Reexaan and Habro waging wars together. And you would think they would be nice to each other. Suldaaka, there you go, if we are to believe what Amigo is saying, Siyad Barre and  Farmajo have honored the family by raising Axmed's profile and honoring him with a monument in the heart of Somali Capital. Heck, I am sure Farmaajo will erect one for  Nuur Dheere and Xaaji Suudi, may we have to leave Sheywal Cabdi, H-Awal traitor.

And to be fair to M-reexaan,

Farmaajo will build one for Nur ibn Mujahid, the Master of the Second Conquest/Emir of Harar, a M-Reexaan and Gurey's nephew.

 

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galbeedi   

Adeer,

I do take with grain of salt in any copy pasted books which everyone can falsify these days. I have also seen books and documents that I read ten years ago appearing in the internet with totally falsified pages while deleting the original. didn't I say while ago that  you are a master on these  tricks.

I can assure you that in official  records there is no such thing as  Habar Magada with any  connections in Zaylac , Harar or the Adal wars  that stretched from  1500-1600. The Magaado are hawd people whose land is west of Hargeisa to Sanaag mountains. These wars took place between Zaylac, Harar, Diredhabe  Afar zone and reached south of Lake Tana in Coffa. 

 

Why would somebody whose home is Togdheer , Sanaag and Saaxil, and reaching Ceelka Hargeisa  for the last 300 years or so, would associate themselves with  what was taking place in the Zaylac coast and Harar ? In the Adal wars, The Somalis were aided by other Muslims like the Afar, ottoman Hararis, and other ethnics. 

We have known about Ahmed Gurey not because I. M Lewis wrote in 1980, but, it was passed to us by generations of people throughout the ages. Walaahi I knew who he was when I was a child 40 years ago. We even knew which sub clan of Awdalite he was. He is Abrayn, Maxamed Case,  from Zaylac coast where his brethren still  today. Neither You not others quoting foreigners will change our mind. You know the distance between Burco and Zaylac.

Ahmed Gurey is a son of Adal Sultanate. I have seen other Somalis claiming as one of their, but never heard about the Hargeisa and Togdheer Habro claim him. If that is the case, Why not  claim the Adal Sultanate to be yours?.

Wakhti ha iska lumnin Axmed Guray waa la yaqaanaa oo haddi aad u baahato aftirsiimadiisa yaan kuu soo raadin.

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10 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

Adeer,

I do take with grain of salt in any copy pasted books which everyone can falsify these days. I have also seen books and documents that I read ten years ago appearing in the internet with totally falsified pages while deleting the original. didn't I say while ago that  you are a master on these  tricks.

I can assure you that in official  records there is no such thing as  Habar Magada or any  connections with the Habro in Zaylac , Harar or the Adal wars  that stretched from  1500-1600. The Magaado are hawd people whose land is west of Hargeisa to Sanaag mountains. These wars took place between Zaylac, Harar, Diredhabe  Afar zone and reached south of Lake Tana in Coffa. 

 

Why would somebody whose home is Togdheer , Sanaag and Saaxil, and reaching Ceelka Hargeisa  for the last 300 years or so, would associate themselves with  what was taking place in the Zaylac coast and Harar ? In the Adal wars, The Somalis were aided by other Muslims like the Afar, ottoman Hararis, and other ethnics. 

We have known about Ahmed Gurey not because I. M Lewis wrote in 1980, but, it was passed to us by generations of people throughout the ages. Walaahi I knew who he was when I was a child 40 years ago. We even knew which sub clan of Awdalite he was. He is Abrayn, Maxamed Case,  from Zaylac coast where his brethren still  today. Neither You not others quoting foreigners will change our mind. You know the distance between Burco and Zaylac.

Ahmed Gurey is a son of Adal Sultanate. I have seen other Somalis claiming as one of their, but never heard about the Hargeisa and Togdheer Habro claim him. If that is the case, Why not  claim the Adal Sultanate to be yours?.

Wakhti ha iska lumnin Axmed Guray waa la yaqaanaa oo haddi aad u baahato aftirsiimadiisa yaan kuu soo raadin.

In all seriousness, the tragedy of Somalis is our small-mindedness. Men like Axmed Gurey, Sayidka, Sheikh Barsane and Nasiib Buundo fought in the name of Islam or in the name of their Somalis and fought against common. And history shows and no one Maryooley can deny, the armies they commanded hail from all Somalis. We can question their methods but their goals were clear.

Their history is Somali history!

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galbeedi   

Che,

Hadalka waad dhamaysay.

This men were fighting for the Islam--period.

There is a big difference fighting for your tribe or for a nation or the whole Ummah.

I don't need to debate these kids from the war zones.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:

LOL 

M-Reexaan and Habro waging wars together. And you would think they would be nice to each other. Suldaaka, there you go, if we are to believe what Amigo is saying, Siyad Barre and  Farmajo have honored the family by raising Axmed's profile and honoring him with a monument in the heart of Somali Capital. Heck, I am sure Farmaajo will erect one for  Nuur Dheere and Xaaji Suudi, may we have to leave Sheywal Cabdi, H-Awal traitor.

And to be fair to M-reexaan,

Farmaajo will build one for Nur ibn Mujahid, the Master of the Second Conquest/Emir of Harar, a M-Reexaan and Gurey's nephew.

 

You need not worry about matters such as Ahmed Gurey, for you are not part of this discussion. 

Do tell us when they build a statue for Amina Boqor and your seedi, mudane Douglas Collin. 

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1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Adeer,

I do take with grain of salt in any copy pasted books which everyone can falsify these days. I have also seen books and documents that I read ten years ago appearing in the internet with totally falsified pages while deleting the original. didn't I say while ago that  you are a master on these  tricks.

I can assure you that in official  records there is no such thing as  Habar Magada with any  connections in Zaylac , Harar or the Adal wars  that stretched from  1500-1600. The Magaado are hawd people whose land is west of Hargeisa to Sanaag mountains. These wars took place between Zaylac, Harar, Diredhabe  Afar zone and reached south of Lake Tana in Coffa. 

 

Why would somebody whose home is Togdheer , Sanaag and Saaxil, and reaching Ceelka Hargeisa  for the last 300 years or so, would associate themselves with  what was taking place in the Zaylac coast and Harar ? In the Adal wars, The Somalis were aided by other Muslims like the Afar, ottoman Hararis, and other ethnics. 

We have known about Ahmed Gurey not because I. M Lewis wrote in 1980, but, it was passed to us by generations of people throughout the ages. Walaahi I knew who he was when I was a child 40 years ago. We even knew which sub clan of Awdalite he was. He is Abrayn, Maxamed Case,  from Zaylac coast where his brethren still  today. Neither You not others quoting foreigners will change our mind. You know the distance between Burco and Zaylac.

Ahmed Gurey is a son of Adal Sultanate. I have seen other Somalis claiming as one of their, but never heard about the Hargeisa and Togdheer Habro claim him. If that is the case, Why not  claim the Adal Sultanate to be yours?.

Wakhti ha iska lumnin Axmed Guray waa la yaqaanaa oo haddi aad u baahato aftirsiimadiisa yaan kuu soo raadin.

Odey Galbeedi, horta dhareerka iska masax. 

You are lying, and you know it. This time there are no "secret sources" to whisper in your ears, at least your mental faculties have not deteriorated to the point where you claim that a well placed source within the Adal warring factions informed you of the identity of Ahmed Gurey. 

You have nothing beside your poorly-written lies and half-truths. Absolutely no shame to be passing lies at your age without a single source to back them up, horta miyaanaad xishooneyn? 

You tried to claim that the sources listed above are "copy-pasted" and "falsified". Been baad sheegtey mar kale. The Arabic manuscript source is straight from the records of King Saud University Collections.

The manuscript preserved in King Saud University Collections: 

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And before you make another ridiculous claim, here is the exact page quoted above. You can click on the link which will take you directly to King Saud University's Collection page and right to the manuscript page quoted above which you can view and verify not to be tampered with by me. The other sources are widely available scholarly books, and I can also provide page numbers that you can verify personally.

This is how you provide sources. Claiming anything that does not align with your clan-based propaganda to be lies is easy, but you can not wish away real history documented in English, French, and even Arabic (I have provided sources in all these languages). Substantiating your claims is something you've never done on these forums, you lie and then giggle and evade providing any concrete academic sources.

Dont let me catch you making up lies again. 

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11 minutes ago, Amigos said:

You need not worry about matters such as Ahmed Gurey, for you are not part of this discussion. 

Do tell us when they build a statue for Amina Boqor and your seedi, mudane Douglas Collin. 

Oh how sweet, waa cunug caano loo diide, it looks like you could use a hug, come on Suldaanka, deal with the kid.

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Amigos   
2 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

Oh how sweet, waa cunug caano loo diide, it looks like you could use a hug, come on Suldaanka, deal with the kid.

Your tone changed as soon as I mentioned eedo Aamina Boqor and your adeero Douglas Collin. 

Hit a nerve miyaa? 😁

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9 minutes ago, Amigos said:

Your tone changed as soon as I mentioned eedo Aamina Boqor and your adeero Douglas Collin. 

Hit a nerve miyaa? 😁

About a dead woman whom you seemed to be obsessed with. No, son, but it seems she brings you some comfort to you, so, run with it.

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Amigos   
31 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

About a dead woman whom you seemed to be obsessed with. No, son, but it seems she brings you some comfort to you, so, run with it.

You have been bringing up a lot more dead people, only fair for your eedo and her, erm, husband, to be part of this discussion. 

She has done great service to beesha, you should be proud of her 😁

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