a father and his son died in a car crash They are both dead.

loool@Ibti, no parties for me this week. There was one on Thursday but i didn't show up just to recover from a boring one that was on the other Thursday ........... How about we have online party ??

Fuley

In Egypt, Some Women Say That Veils Increase Harassment CAIRO -- In a Muslim country where the numbers of women wearing the veil are rising, and so -- by most accounts -- are incidents of groping and catcalls in the streets, the message in ads circulating anonymously in e-mails here in Egypt is clear: "A veil to protect, or eyes will molest," one warns. The words sit over two illustrations, one comparing a veiled woman, her hair and neck covered in the manner known to Muslims as hijab, to a wrapped candy, untouched and pure. The other picture shows an unveiled woman, hair flying wildly and hip jutting, next to a candy that has had its wrapper stripped off -- and is now covered in flies. "You can't stop them, but you can protect yourself," warns another ad likening men to flies and women to sweets. Bloggers in Egypt have taken to calling such messages the "veil your lollipop" campaign. No group has asserted responsibility for the online ads, which so far have drawn little attention outside Egyptian blogs. But the campaign comes at a time of converging debate on two keenly felt issues in Egypt: the growing social pressure on Muslim women to veil themselves; and the rising incidence of sexual harassment of women by strangers. Surprisingly, some Egyptian women say that their veils don't protect against harassment, as the lollipop ads argue, but fuel it. A survey released this summer supports the view. "These guys are animals. If they saw a female dog, they would harass it," Hind Sayed, a 20-year-old sidewalk vendor in Cairo's Mohandisseen district, said, staring coldly at a knot of male vendors who stood grinning a few feet from her. In accord with her interpretation of Islamic law, which says women should dress modestly, Sayed wore a flowing black robe and black veil. Together, they covered all but her hands and her pale face with its drawn-on, expressive eyebrows. Despite her attire, Sayed said, she daily endures suggestive comments from male customers and fellow vendors. "I think a woman who wears hijab can be more provocative to them," Sayed said. "The more covered up you are, the more interesting you are to them." Zuhair Mohammed, a 60-year-old shopper on the same street, said she long ago stopped wearing the traditional Islamic covering, in part for that reason. "I feel like with the hijab, it makes them wonder, 'What are you hiding underneath?' " Mohammed said. Mona Eltahawy, a 41-year-old Egyptian social commentator who now lives, unveiled, in the United States, said that as a Muslim woman who wore hijab for nine years and was harassed "countless times" in Egypt, she has concluded that the increase in veiling has somehow contributed to the increase in harassment. "The more women veil the less men learn to behave as decent and civilized members of society," Eltahawy wrote in an interview via Facebook. "And the more women are harassed, the more they veil thinking it will 'protect' them." Female travelers consider Egypt one of the worst countries in the world for harassment on the streets -- second only to Afghanistan, where the Taliban forced all women behind the veil and into seclusion in their homes. And it's not just women's perceptions. The United States and Britain both warn female visitors in travel advisories that they may face unwanted attention, or sexual attacks, in Egypt. When Egyptian lawmakers objected to Britain's advisory this summer, calling it a slur, Britain responded that more female British tourists were harassed and assaulted, even raped, while in Egypt than in any other country. A new survey by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights makes harassment on the streets appear not a risk, but a virtual certainty. According to the center, 98 percent of the foreign women and 83 percent of the Egyptian women surveyed said they had been sexually harassed in the country. About half of the women, Egyptian and non-Egyptian, said they were harassed every day as they went about the streets. The survey polled 2,020 Egyptian men and women and 109 non-Egyptian women. ad_icon Foreign women identified Egyptian policemen and other security officials as the most frequent harassers. Two-thirds of the Egyptian men surveyed admitted to harassing women, in actions ranging from staring openly at their bodies, shouting explicit comments, touching the women or exposing themselves. "It makes a woman happy when I call to her. It makes her know she's attractive," 20-year-old Alla Aldin Salem said on the sidewalk in Mohandisseen, after going out of earshot of the glaring fellow vendor in hijab. "The woman herself is the one who makes men harass her," said Fawzi Tahbet, a 50-year-old man selling kitchenware on another stretch of the sidewalk, under the shade of a tree. "If she's walking, swinging as she goes, of course it will happen." In fact, the survey's results challenged a stereotype, according to Nehad Komsan, chairwoman of the women's rights center. While both men and women surveyed said that short skirts and tight clothes triggered harassment, the survey found that women in hijab were the most frequent targets of unwanted comments and touching on the street. Among Egyptian women, 72 percent of those who described incidents of harassment said they were veiled at the time. "It surprised me," said Komsan, who wears hijab. "It doesn't matter what you wear." Egypt's most notorious case of harassment occurred last year when two fully veiled Gulf Arab women were surrounded by dozens of men on a street and molested. Bystanders filmed the episode and posted it on YouTube. It became an embarrassment to Egypt's government and a spark for the first public debate on sexual harassment in Egypt. A female lawmaker now is pushing legislation that would allow jail sentences for some forms of sexual harassment and discrimination. Anecdotes told by the women who were surveyed portrayed women choosing to give up jobs and education because of harassment, Komsan said. She presented Egyptian news media with the case of a 14-year-old girl who stopped going to school because of the harassment she suffered on a public bus during the daily trips to school and back. The girl's father had come to the women's rights center, seeking help in getting his daughter back to class. An estimated 80 percent of Egyptian women now wear hijab. Pressure on the remainder to cover up grows every year, as fundamentalism gains influence in Muslim societies worldwide. "Bravo, you've taken the veil," a popular Egyptian singer croons in one music video, which shows a previously neglectful boyfriend beaming and offering a wedding ring when his formerly uncovered girlfriend dons a head scarf. Veiling parties laud girls who've covered up. Egyptian women who don't wear hijab say that, more and more, they encounter strangers urging them in the streets, "Sister, you'd be more beautiful if you veiled." At the women's rights center, Komsan recounted a few of the many reasons, in addition to religion, that prompt women to veil: rebellion against a less openly devout older generation; a desire to demonstrate Islamic solidarity; a desire to show oneself a good girl who would make a good wife. Asked how many women also wore the veil in hopes of protecting against harassment, Komsan smiled. "Most," she said. Source: Washingtonpost

why are u afraid to answer ??

I think there is no specialty in my side .... sitting in my old office and doing the same old stuff i do everyday. We can have some here on SOL if you have some ideas yaa Urban ,,,,

Yet you didn't answer the question ......

Salaams Urban ,,,, I guess everyone is alright here ,,, starting with myself.

Recent surge of clan based meetings in Somaliland territories have alarmed many peace loving citizens of this region. As many understand the yet to be recognized fragile democratic nation is soon to face a critical election season. Somaliland as an evolving nation went through a grand political transitional process. The transition of moving away from traditionally governed nation to a formal democracy is one of the greatest political achievements in Somaliland. The transition which was originally initiated by the previous administration followed the set procedures and thanks god major elections were conducted and the people had a chance to participate in the historic political process that attracted the attention of the international community, thus the famous phrase “Somaliland Africa’s best kept secret”. As I mentioned before these democratic institutions are still at their infancy stage and needs more of baby seating rather than demands for perfection. There are lots loopholes in the constitution which entails dialogue and compromise between the current administration, the elite individuals and political figures of this nation. The current administration maybe incompetent and have squandered many opportunities and mismanaged the meager national treasuries but all in all they managed to maintain law and order and kept all the government institutions running. Coming back to my point of democracy requirements, I believe that we need to come out clear on what we really desire for this infant and fragile nation. Some would genuinely tell you that we need a change of the administration. Well that might be a great idea however the change need to come from the people and through the ballot box and never again through clandestine clan based meetings. It’s the people who voted for the referendum and overwhelmingly accepted the set democratic system the day they voted for the constitution. It’s not therefore fair and appropriate for power hungry politicians to brew a hybrid politics of“democlanism”. It’s also unfortunate that the elite individuals are tolerating this type of confusion that could derail the stability and democratic maturity of this lucky region. It’s clear that Somaliland is at a crossroad, and there is a crucial need for national dialogue and not clan based meetings and counter meetings. It’s high time that the nations politicians, traditional leaders, and elite groups within and overseas to come up with a marshal plan which will solve current political and trade impasses with most important being ways to ensure and guide a free and fair upcoming elections. Clan based politics empowers aristocracy and dictatorship. This is clear from a recent clan based meeting somewhere in the eastern part of Somaliland where some of the clan members were restrained from participating and when they organized their own they were labeled as clan traitors. This is where one wonders if really Somaliland is to be stable prosperous whom do the citizen pledge their loyalty to. Is it the clan or the nation? This region being just like any other Somali inhabited regions consists of diverse Somali clans therefore it’s difficult and risky to have both, and still co-exist as united Somaliland. At the same time it was unfortunate that the mentioned meeting was attended by some prominent ambitious politicians who understand the nation’s constitution in its defense for freedom of speech, association and gathering. None of them mentioned that everyone has the right of speech and gathering just like the one they were enjoying at that particular clan meeting..! My question is, how could we then trust such figures to uphold and abide by the constitution if they are elected to highest office of this nation? By: Abdirahman (Dhunjoog)

You didn't answer my question

unknown, who cares anyway about your gender. Ibtisam, you don't need to use any faces here ....

will the alshabaab compete ??

No you don't need to use that ugly face either. You live without the two. Do you know there is this guy once told me there is a lady who is in love with him ,, i asked him WOW ,, did she tell you that ?? ,, he said no but every time i see her she smiles for me ,,,

I think iyadaa ka asturan kuwa Dabshid haysto .....

That is the problem when you smile at the wrong guys Ibtisam. ..........

Yes i can tell the difference between the right and wrong ,,,,,,,,, and hence, i must tell you that you are WRONG and she is RIGHT......

Waar niyow you need to leave Ibtisam alone and look for another victim. She is too young to play your games and too old to be your pet ........

Waar wuxu ma diyaarad baa ,,,,,, Bismillaaah ,,

You act like a Mad Mullah thus i can call you a mad mullah ....... (the original Sayid was not mad but you are) ,,,, Now, you need to get off the Ibtisam's shoulders niyow ,,,,, hadii kele waan ku xidhi

How da hell did i miss this thread ?? .....

Subax wanaagsan sayidka waalan ,,,

It is easy .......

I noticed you coming online this early time. You could have worked at home no ??

Hello Ibtisam, Don't tell me you are at the Uni

I don't know about Somalia but Yes halkan waa la shaqeeyaa ,,,