Ngonge, I tried but this is what I get: "You have entered an invalid username or password. Please enter the correct details and try again. Don't forget that the password is case sensitive. Forgotten your password? Click here! " I didn't forget my password, i know it. Laakin dee waa la ii iloobay. Waa ula kac. Fadlan LST, with that nick raga iskama celin karo ee magacaygii hore ha la ii soo celiyo. Buuxo - long time! where were you sister? Salaan adag iga gudoon.

Zack, waaga aynu ilbaxno ama xorowno ee aan website reerka u sameyno waad arki doontaa inaan LST u sameeyo account ah "Abdi Dhabayac" oo aan Avatar' uga dhigo pirate dooni saaran. Horta Abdilatif siduu ku yahay cilmiga IT'ga? wax reeraha ah oo wax isku dayi karaa ma inagu jiraa?

Nassir, fadlan avatar'ka ii daa anigaa kaaga horeeeyee. Sidii Sh. Atam hadii mintid aad wada noqotaan aniga ima quseeyso, laakin magaca lagaaga horeeyey ha ku mintidin. kkkkkkk

Too many things are wrong. I did not join on November 2007. What is going on LST? You asked me to give you an e-mail and I gave my correct e-mail address. Now what will happen to my Abtigiis account. Kindly close the Cagdheer account and give me my Abtigiis account. by the way, anyone who wrote Moh Cagdheer knew who I am, because the other information on the profile were right. JB, qosolkiina waa la badalye la soco. It is no more :d

Anigu Wyre waan kuu sheegay oo meesha saaka yaa allahu iyo ergaan ku soo galay. I have to call Ngonge (waa runtay I am not joking) in LST la iiga ergeeyo. Markaa post iyo title la iga qaaday ka dacwoon maayo. What was amazing was markaan password'gayga geliyey to log in, ee la i yidhi "you have changed your password". Waan yaaboo waxaan is idhi war ma adoo hurdaad badashay mise waa lagu isticmaala meesha. Waxaa ka sii daraa" markii Image (alphabetes iyo numbers) ka kooban la yidhi ku qor meel ee aan "T75RGT' qoro, ee uu yidhaa "wax aad qortay ma aha waxa qor lagu yidhi". Waan yaaboo waxaan is idhi 'war ma ilaa xalay baa af-ingriiskii' dibu habeyn lagu sameeyay oo 'T' hadaad aragtaan 'F' qora sharci ah la soo rogay.

Kamaavi, I know inaad shaqeeysatay. Aniguba waan shaqaystay adeerkiis. What you don't know is you and me cannot both have it. There is a regional quota for the allocation of the 'senior nomad' status and only one of us can get it. Markaa kuma qabsan karo Juxa iyo dad kaa kale. Wyre tiisii meel ay tagtay ma war baad u haysaa? sidaasaa meel kasta qoorta la iskula jiraa? laakin wax Pirates iga bililiqaystaan bay "senior Nomad' igu yartahay. Ha iska haystaan. Alien hadii loo dhiman Cowke' ayaa u dhiman lahaa. Oo every week mar siqiira. oo kaalay ileen Post'gaydii oo dhana waa la baa'biyey. Ngonge 15,000 buu wataa; anigana 3. Fadlan Library aan wax ku kaydasado ayey aheyde LST'yoow ii soo *** intii meeshaa article and thread igaga jirtay.

Oo senior Nomad'nimadiina ileen Kamavi baa lagu wareejiyey? it is ok, it is in line with 4.5.

Horta waa alxamdu lilaah. Yaa alaahu baan ku soo galay iyo sirinsirqo. And also with a new name given to me which describes my actual psyique the least. Cagdheer ku lahaa. To the extent LST is not calling himself "Abdi Dhabayac" he should not have named me "MOH Cagdheer". But i take it as a statement of friendship and intimacy. But it worries me when I learn that some of my details may be in the public domain and particularly in the hands of the deadly PIS and Faroole adminstration. It is known that there is no love lost between me and the Pirate State and it is a cause for concern. I may have to take some precautionary safety measures on top of what is already in place. The risk is higher because if and when Pirates decide to take action against me, they will not need to design elaborate travel and logistics plan. They are in my neighbourhood and they can reach me in hours. But who is to fear them? Let them come if they want. I would like to thank Ngonge whose mediation and intervention allowed me to air my concern here to SOLers. Although a cable from WIKILEAKS on SOL which is yet to be made public alleges that Ngonge was behind the 'women insurrection' against me few months ago, I must thank him for his intervention today.

Q&Q, I now see why that nefarious cousin of mine, Dakhare, was right. He used to say 'fools only see things in false binary of black and white".

Shamuuri is great! Hees uu qaado oo eesh calaa ah ayaa jirta. Maahee, maahee, maahee ka daa Maahee, maahee, maahee ka daa Sidaad mooday caashaqu, mahee ka daa Maaweelo been ah, maahaa Aan kaa macaasho, maahaa dirin!dirin!diririn!dirindirn!

This is an argument. What you wrote about niikis wasn't. I hope you realise that.

^what are you talking about? calm down. This thread is about Somaliland, not ONLF. Open another one about ONLF if you want. I thought the whole Somaliland officials were reporting to Abdi Iley last week.

Can you confirm Somaliland joined South Somalia on July 1960, and SL officers attempted to break away in 1961? Which they did in 1991, anyway.

The only thing good about Oodweyne's post above is that he is alive and back to SOL. We heard he was wounded fighting Colonel Sabarey's gallant SSC forces. It is good to know he is well.

SOL has an uncanny prediliction to attract buffons of all types. Who is this Q&Q?

Mahadsanid! That was great.

O Daruurtiyo Roobka, noo Da'aybaan Ismahaan u dabaal dagaynaaye!!

Real Somalis like CHE, hunguri, MMA,ALLAMAgan, and even GENERAL DUKE!

To be honest, I posted this topic more for the real Somalis not Somalilanders. Both both JB and Ngonge are good friends, so it is ok. Nuraddin Farah’s predictable yet unnerving prophetic foretelling has proven stunningly accurate. Years of Ethiopian treacherous political machinations coupled with a matching, even more detrimental, internal subversion and betrayal perpetuated by opportunistic Somali politicians had, at last, unraveled the very fabric of the Somali nation. No wonder, fragmented to into clan enclaves and in shambles, Somalia is today reduced to a vassal state of Ethiopia. Ethiopia’s long-cherished territorial expansion and doctrine of conquest were finally realized by Meles Zenawi. Meles recalibrated and refocused an old hegemonistic and expansionistic strategy to a devastating effect, thanks to the demise of the Somali government.

To be honest, I posted this topic more for the real Somalis not Somalilanders. Both both JB and Ngonge are good friends, so it is ok. On the topic, Abdirasaq haji Hussen is right. The archtect of Somalia's mess is Meles.

Editor’s Note Biyokulule Online November 26, 2010 Delving into the depth of its well-stocked in-house archive of Somali history “Zooming into the Past”, Biyokulule Online is pleased to present to its esteemed readers one of the best works of Somalia’s distinguished writer Nuraddin Farah: Which Way To The Sea, Please? This timeless essay retraces Ethiopia’s historical expansionist imperialistic aspirations of conquest and aggrandizement towards its ill-fated neighbors and its notoriously insatiable desire to obtain a foothold, at any cost, in the warm water of the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. Ethiopia’s colonial objectives towards Somalia and Somali-inhabited territories, an integral reflection of its expansionist national policy, has been uniform and consistent throughout the past one hundred fifty years and was advanced on at an unvarying pace by all Ethiopian governments – from Menelik to Meles. Addressing the first session of the Organization of African Union in 1963, the predecessor of the current African Union, Ethiopia’s former Prime Minister Tsehafe Tiezaz Aklilu brazenly claimed that “The historical frontiers of Ethiopia stretched from the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean, including all the territory between them”. He further contended that “ There is no record in history either of a Somali State or a Somali Nation. … I apologize for stating it." Ethiopia’s historical territorial claims are never supported by empirical historical records. In The Stolen Desert, the Earl of Lytton details how European powers cobbled up mosaic tribes in Africa into nation states. “Africans accuse Europeans of having dismembered a United Africa. That charge is false”, he states unequivocally. “In Kenya men are still Kikuyu, Luo, Kamba or Masai,.. only lately are men of Kenya…to call themselves Kenyans; and this is happening within boundaries artificially contrived by Britain under a name invented by Britain”. He further states that “the case of the Somalis however is quite the reverse. They had been for centuries one nation, professing one religion, speaking one language and pursuing a single pattern of pastoral nomadic culture when the Europeans arrived and carved them up. The Somalis were politically divided up between Britian, France, Italy and Ethiopia… this dismemberment is unique in all Africa, and it was resisted for an unrivalled length of time –twenty-one-years – by a Somali patriot and his followers, one Mohammed Abdille Hassan”. Nuraddin Farah’s predictable yet unnerving prophetic foretelling has proven stunningly accurate. Years of Ethiopian treacherous political machinations coupled with a matching, even more detrimental, internal subversion and betrayal perpetuated by opportunistic Somali politicians had, at last, unraveled the very fabric of the Somali nation. No wonder, fragmented to into clan enclaves and in shambles, Somalia is today reduced to a vassal state of Ethiopia. Ethiopia’s long-cherished territorial expansion and doctrine of conquest were finally realized by Meles Zenawi. Meles recalibrated and refocused an old hegemonistic and expansionistic strategy to a devastating effect, thanks to the demise of the Somali government. Revealing the prime architect of the ongoing balkanization of Somalia and the perpetuating factor of the prolonged mammoth cataclysm that has befallen upon and continues to bedevil the prospect for the restoration of central government in our beleaguered country, Somalia’s former Prime Minister, Abdirizak Haji Hussein was unequivocal in pointing the finger of blame at Meles Zenawi. “Meles Zenawi is attempting to play the game with a more subtle and disguised approach in the belief that in doing so he could deftly execute his scheme of grabbing/absorbing Somalia or parts thereof”. “With that road-map in view and taking advantage of Somalia’s current political crisis and given its long borders with Ethiopia” Abdirizak emphatically argued that “ Mr. Zenawi’s new tactic is to, first, make sure that Somalia be seen, by foreign powers, as being in a sphere of Ethiopia’s influence, following in the classic foot-steps of old colonialist technique of playing- off one clan or group of clans against the others … exactly as the European colonizers did during the scramble for Africa in late 19th century. The next decisive action means; military occupation and annexation of part(s), if not the whole, of Somalia to the Ethiopian Empire”. So you have it! As Professor Said S. Samatar said at a different time in a different context “poor Somalia, so far from Allah, and so near to Ethiopia”, Somalia is on the verge of being eclipsed forever by a menacingly callous monster next door. Today, in the dark belly of Ethiopia is trapped the dreams of Somalia with no way to extract it in sight. And with that Ethiopia has realized its way to the sea; and as Haile Sellassie, the former King of Ethiopia, proclaimed in his famous leaflet, Benadir seems destined to “henceforth dwell under the shade of the Ethiopian flag”. Here is Nuraddin Farah's "Which Way to the Sea?" http://biyokulule.com/Which_Way_to_the_Sea.htm

Finally, in a valuable assessment of the recognition issue, the author justly points out that Somalia ‘no longer exists … despite the fiction dreamt up by African, Arab, and international diplomacy to serve their vested political interests’. I think Ngonge needs evidence here!

Haa! Those who matter, and are in government in Somalia. It doesn't matter if AllaMagan, Hunguri iyo Xinnfanin ay madax banaanyihiin. They can't do much beyond fighting on SOL. Do you know who is blocking Farmajo's government, hadda?

Xajka markaanu tagina ma Somaliland oo dhan inaan kala tashanaa?

I don't think there is any pretense that the paper is an objective ( a term which itself is subjective in many ways)paper. In the introduction it clearly says the intention is to redirect the focus of Somali Intellectuals against Ethiopia, and it is conculsion is a belligerent 'let us return its divide-and distablise tactics in kind'. Calling Abdullahi Yusuf a stooge is not an objective fact too. It is a matter up for debate. It is clearly a propaganda,(and propaganda is key to achieve some objectives) but with good dose of objective facts and plausibile reasonings. Would it have helped if the writer attach interviews and questionnaires of a group of people, of whom 70-80% of them think Ethiopia;s main objective to destablise Somalia is Meles's self-preservation need? That is how objectivity is discussed in Social Science and I don't know about the author, but me, I don't take that as objective as well. In social science, you only have opinions and interpretations, no provable facts ! But if Ngonge's taste is to read objective and emotion-free articles only, I understand his displeasure.